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Thinks "trans people" deserve to live...yet pushes trans student to the brink of suicide. Curious!
I said the counselor was a gender ideology zealot, I never said pro trans, or pro trans people.
If the counselor doesn't take pleasure in seeing kids suffer, then she's just about the worst counselor in the world, seeing that she drove a kid to attempt suicide two days in a row. The next Sigmund ing Freud right there
Thinks "trans people" deserve to live...yet pushes trans student to the brink of suicide. Curious!
the fact that its as overused as it is is completely ed up too. its an attempt to dehumanize anybody supporting of transgender people trying to live a happy life. while the transgender group is much smaller in scope to the gay/lesbian/bi group, the transgender discussion has blown up to be about as big as the "gay marriage" arguments used to be, and honestly its all the same ty rehashed arguments
gay people want to destroy the family unit and traditional culture. gay people are predators trying to get to kids to turn them gay.
rinse, repeat.
Do you seriously think the counselor drover her to suicide?I said the counselor was a gender ideology zealot, I never said pro trans, or pro trans people.
If the counselor doesn't take pleasure in seeing kids suffer, then she's just about the worst counselor in the world, seeing that she drove a kid to attempt suicide two days in a row. The next Sigmund ing Freud right there
How many people in history have attempted suicide due to an abusive relationship with their school counselor vs an abusive relationship with their parents?
see, you DO believe that the counselor actually hates trans people and wants them to commit suicide. and yet you started this conversation by calling that counselor a gender ideology zealot.
cUrIoUs!
suicide attempt probably had nothing to do with the student feeling ashamed of who they are, by their peers at school, or more notably, their parents at home who probably remind the child on a weekly basis that transgender people are the spawn of satan and are damned to for eternity. everything to do with the counselor tbh
The definition I provided doesn't require sexual abuse as a pre-req...the fact that's how you see the term isn't my problem.
I'd say the big problem is that some cheese school counselor is pulling the trigger on a gender dysphoria diagnosis after what appears to be just a couple months of counseling at school.
i know. i was careful in my wording in that "the term groomer has a pretty heavy connotation, and people will typically associate that term with some type of sexual abuse."
your definition didnt require abuse, but also included either manipulation or exploitation. i dont see how what happened to be "exploitative" because nothing was done for the benefit of the counselor. exploitation would be like the counselor parlaying their sessions with the students into national TV interviews about how they are great for the trans community and all the work they've done to try to get some kind of clout or money or something
Yes, 100%.
It's too early to tell, school counselors handing out gender dysphoria diagnoses like they're candy and to kids who are depressed and then telling teachers to refer to the kids as a certain name and pronoun (leading to only more bullying) is a very recent phenomenon.
What's remarkable is that teen suicides in the US are at like an all time high, which doesn't jibe with the gender ideology theory that there's always been an underbelly of trans people killing themselves en masse because society never offered them the help they need finally being offered suicide-preventing "gender affirmation treatment" for the first time in human history.
Theoretically, if trans ideology is correct, the introduction of gender affirmation care to teenagers would lead to a substantial reduction in teen suicide, no?
yes because the national discourse of transgenderism going on right now is probably very healthy for those people and helps them feel like they belong
btw the #1 factor that decreases suicide risk among trans teens is strong support from their immediate family
metastudy has found that 51 of 55 studies done on the effects of gender transition found that gender transition improves the overall well being of those effected, while the other 4 found mixed or null findings
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornel...gender-people/
Well the percentage of people who identify as trans has also shot through the roof in the last 5-10 years. Presumably the national at ude towards transgenderism has improved somewhat compared to the historical norm if more people (esp. young people) are willing to come out as trans, no?
Like I'm pretty sure a kid who's trans would have gotten bullied a lot harder in school 30 years ago than he/she would get bullied now.
i think theres probably a lot of people who felt weird/different 30 years ago that had never heard of the term transgender or really knew it was a thing that they could actually relate to, so they couldnt really put a label on how they were feeling. were probably just made fun of for being or gay instead and had a ty adolescence.
if you are looking at teen suicide rates, generally, and if its true that their suicide rates are higher than they've ever been, then there are a lot of factors like social media which would be good explanations for recently elevated suicidality as opposed to confidently asserting that it definitely has to do with transgender ideology or whatever
Last edited by spurraider21; 08-19-2022 at 03:43 PM.
also... lol
https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/suicidal-teens
this is all the transgenders fault
How long after the transition were these people sampled though?
I think there's some scientific evidence that the transition surgery/hormone treatment improves well being in the short term, but I think there's an abject failure to determine what the long term effects are.
I mean, could be an over zealous counselor trying to be a hero to the kid and possibly crossed a line. If so ok fire them.
Same thing if the kid came in and said "I'm not sure about my gender" and the counselor said "you need Jesus, come to church on Sunday where they can give you info on how to get that sin out of your life".
Only two explanations that make sense:
Kid confided in counselor and counselor mocked student behind their back to other staff members, which potentially also leaked out to other students.
Kid confided in counselor and counselor offered (with kid's verbal permission) to communicate the kid's name/gender preference to other staff on their behalf. Following suicide attempts and in support of the pending lawsuit by the parents, kid now denies this permission was ever given.
"I'm going to support this child's gender preference by telling staff members and students about it without their permission" is nonsensical unless you're only viewing this through a paranoid alt-right lens.
its a meta analysis of 55 studies. i doubt they had identical methodologies.
if you're going to concern troll about suicide rates, and if these measures help prevent those now, then absent something that demonstrates that there are in fact long term detriments which would outweigh the immediate improvement of well being, you shouldnt really have issue with it
Last edited by spurraider21; 08-19-2022 at 05:09 PM.
Good to see you stick to the facts.
like giving cake and ice cream to a 5 year old.
Yeah that's how guessing what happened works until the facts actually come out
Explained how you used that technique in your life.
Explains how you talk about my life
Like how you stalk KW off this site and post images from his business site here?
He loves my legs like the other fresas here who saved that photo to their photobucket and HDD's.
It's all good though. I support them no matter what.
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