Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[T Park]

If your lawyer says stay quiet, it doesn’t matter what some yahoo says on a message board. You don’t, nor should care other than what a legal rep says.

[vy65]

How was it handled though? Are you taking Buzzbee at face value, because that is ing laughable.

IF they covered up or didn't handle it right, I agree with you, but I don't understand why you're speaking on like its fact.

I think everything said on the issue has to be taken with a grain of salt. There’s a ton we don’t know. For me, what is seemingly dispositive is the waiving of Primo. It’s hard for me to conceptualize this organization - with all its player loyalty over the years - doing that if he and the situation weren’t absolutely toxic.

[vy65]

If your lawyer says stay quiet, it doesn’t matter what some yahoo says on a message board. You don’t, nor should care other than what a legal rep says.

Juries think guilty people listen to their lawyers and innocent people have nothing to hide. Not saying it’s right. It’s just human nature.

[MannyIsGod]

I think everything said on the issue has to be taken with a grain of salt. There’s a ton we don’t know. For me, what is seemingly dispositive is the waiving of Primo. It’s hard for me to conceptualize this organization - with all its player loyalty over the years - doing that if he and the situation weren’t absolutely toxic.

i 100% agree with you on this. So much of it seems like bull , but I can't reconcile that with the waiving. That really makes me think that there's something to it.

[timvp]

Well if she was smart, and as a person at her level she should be, there will be do entation of her contacts each step of the way. They won't even need discovery to show a record of contact that Wright ignored.

But she doesn't know if Wright ignored it or whether he informed HR. That's a big difference that could be what determines whether Wright is in the clear or Wright gets fired. If Wright went out of his way to conceal the allegations, he's in hot water. But if others were in the mix in deciding to send Primo back to the mental health expert, that takes the heat off of Wright completely, IMO.

[MannyIsGod]

But she doesn't know if Wright ignored it or whether he informed HR. That's a big difference that could be what determines whether Wright is in the clear or Wright gets fired. If Wright went out of his way to conceal the allegations, he's in hot water. But if others were in the mix in deciding to send Primo back to the mental health expert, that takes the heat off of Wright completely, IMO.

Yeah but I find it much easier to believe that the guy who's job security rested on Primo being good (or at least not a ing person capable of like this) covered things up then he let other people know and they didn't think to do anything. But in either of those scenarios, the Spurs are probably legally ed to some degree. I mean its possible that they acted and undertook some action, but I find that hard to believe if she didn't get a meeting for months.

[rjv]

And how would the prep school allegation play into this if true, given that knowledge of an incident pre-draft would almost certainly be pertinent to the Spurs knowledge of pre-existing history for this behavior? And call into question every delay of action against him. And the Spurs promotion of him as the next face of the franchise. And the 3rd year option.

That story is the ultimate, you're ed, if it pans out. And would undoubtedly make heads roll either for not knowing about it or for knowing it and then not acting with haste once a second, third, or fourth allegation became known.

By the way, quick prediction: If Primo has a penchant for doing this type of behavior, there are undoubtedly more fish in the sea that will come forward, even if the Spurs may have already paid off the Minnesota or Vegas victims

you might want to acquaint yourself with FERPA.

[Atl Spur]

Lol…… who knew we had some of the greatest legal minds on this board I can’t wait to see who ends up with the wright take!

[mo7888]

Juries think guilty people listen to their lawyers and innocent people have nothing to hide. Not saying it’s right. It’s just human nature.

I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way in reality. If the attorney does his job right the jury will be made up of 'adults' who can comprehend the reasoning behind an accused person listening to his attorney. This isn't going to be tried in the court of public opinion. The plaintiff's attorney will try to force that and being silent (or at least minimal comment) along with tactical leaks will thwart that.

[DPG21920]

What do you want them to say? Do you want them to apologize or do you want the HR paperwork to prove their side of the story? Would you accept Wright being fired as a sufficient comment? I can't imagine something productive they could say in this situation. The most they'd say is, ironically, "we are family and all families have problems but we're working on this in-house and making sure procedures are put in place," etc.

It’s not so much “what they say” but understanding fans deserve to have them say something because we are all in this together. That’s the schtick right? Spurs family. Thankful for the fans.

It shows a complete contempt for fans to basically say “you aren’t owed a damn thing” IMO. Do I think they are evil? No. Saying it does not sit well with me to hold fans in such low esteem you dont feel like you owe them anything despite not saying that when asking for money and doing promotions

[mo7888]

I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way in reality. If the attorney does his job right the jury will be made up of 'adults' who can comprehend the reasoning behind an accused person listening to his attorney. This isn't going to be tried in the court of public opinion. The plaintiff's attorney will try to force that and being silent (or at least minimal comment) along with tactical leaks will thwart that.

And just like that RC releases a statement along the lines I just laid out...

[DPG21920]

The Spurs face legal liability. There should be no correlation between them speaking about racism or whatever and them not following their lawyers' advice. Come on now.

There is absolute correlation. It’s not just racism. It’s about owners when they mess up and create “toxic workplace” and how players and coaches say “theres no place for that!”

Cant be a social justice warrior when it suits you.

[DPG21920]

Agreed. It's weird how Spurs fans and Spurs haters try to relate everything back to Pop saying mean things about Christopher Columbus or whatever.

What’s weird to me (you calling me a hater lol?) is acting like SA has absolutely zero obligation to fans regardless of cir stances.

[offset formation]

you might want to acquaint yourself with FERPA.

Lol. Any NBA franchise worth their salt is going to find out why he left that school and transferred either by aski g around or directly to the player. And once it's part of a background check process by a NBA franchise), it's open game in a civil or criminal proceeding. FERPA will be no hindrance on this in the least

[mo7888]

What’s weird to me (you calling me a hater lol?) is acting like SA has absolutely zero obligation to fans regardless of cir stances.

RC just put out a statement...

[rjv]

Lol…… who knew we had some of the greatest legal minds on this board I can’t wait to see who ends up with the wright take!

we also have an abundance of world renowned climatologists, economists and virologists.

[DPG21920]

Its pretty ridiculous to equate speaking out about structural inequalities in our society to pending litigation that might be aimed at them. Come the on man.

They have no issues speaking about it when its owners etc with their own legal cases (Sarver etc..). This literally has to do with those same structural inequalities, no? Abuse of power, workplace culture how women are silenced and disregarded…its not any different just because its Spurs.

[Chinook]

There is absolute correlation. It’s not just racism. It’s about owners when they mess up and create “toxic workplace” and how players and coaches say “theres no place for that!”

Cant be a social justice warrior when it suits you.

Yes you can. Holy . People don't have to get sued just because they'd say something different under other cir stances. This attempt at connect is even worse than the Hong Kong from a few years ago

[timvp]

It shows a complete contempt for fans to basically say “you aren’t owed a damn thing” IMO. Do I think they are evil? No. Saying it does not sit well with me to hold fans in such low esteem you dont feel like you owe them anything despite not saying that when asking for money and doing promotions

I also get frustrated when the Spurs make major moves or make major decisions and then don't comment or provide reasoning. I've posted about that frustration before. For example, getting sort of comment on the Morris/Bertans fiasco would have been nice and it's what every other franchise in the league would do.

But this is a legal situation where saying anything only hurts their case. It's completely different and, in this situation, understandable, IMO.

[manufan10]

[vy65]

I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way in reality. If the attorney does his job right the jury will be made up of 'adults' who can comprehend the reasoning behind an accused person listening to his attorney. This isn't going to be tried in the court of public opinion. The plaintiff's attorney will try to force that and being silent (or at least minimal comment) along with tactical leaks will thwart that.

You’ve obviously never spoken to a jury

[emanueldavidginobili]

[mo7888]

You’ve obviously never spoken to a jury

You obviously don't know me...

[DPG21920]

And I never said SA needs to gravel and admit guilt. Simply need to say something and not be so casual with dismissing fans as peons that don’t deserve even basic statements.

Rubs me the wrong way….but go off about how Im unreasonable and a hater lmao

[rjv]

Lol. Any NBA franchise worth their salt is going to find out why he left that school and transferred either by aski g around or directly to the player. And once it's part of a background check process by a NBA franchise), it's open game in a civil or criminal proceeding. FERPA will be no hindrance on this in the least

they can ask but any conduct that did not become known to the public cannot be released. the rest would be hearsay. i mean who do you suggest franchises ask? old classmates? you act as if digging up someone's high school past is normal process. imagine how many potential athletes (or any professional for that matter) would be removed from consideration for their high school conduct? most of the current alamo heights varsity football team is a perfect example.