View Poll Results: Will Trump serve any jail/prison time?

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  1. #26
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    Are you actually going to join the ing discussion this time or are you just going to throw out questions you already know the answer to per your usual?

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    Are you actually going to join the ing discussion this time or are you just going to throw out questions you already know the answer to per your usual?
    For what?

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    Stop being stupid. Offer a take or ing shut your drunk ass up

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    Get those cuffs ready, Garland!

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    Get those cuffs ready, Garland!
    Maybe so...maybe not. Jan 6th won't amount to but the docs at his house is a different story. We will all point and laugh at you when he goes down for it.

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    Maybe so...maybe not. Jan 6th won't amount to but the docs at his house is a different story. We will all point and laugh at you when he goes down for it.
    Uh, ok.

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    Do you have any take besides two word responses? Im guessing no.

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    Might as well let him keep running since he's torpedoing the fascists in elections now.

    I absolutely want him to keep running so he can bring down the entire party. Him being locked up just strengthens the GOP imo because they can ride that wave of Dems are bad, and are just out to get everyone “who’s really honest”

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    Crimes.

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    Still hurts, doesn't it?

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    That's not true, the guy is not nearly as sharp and witty as he was in 2016. It may not be cognitive decline, though - maybe just a case of him being scared less because people are trying to put him in jail on multiple fronts, so he cant string together coherent thoughts.

    I have listened to the entire GA phone call. Trump is usually bright enough to use mob-code type talk and not incriminate himself - but not in this phone call. He blatantly tells Raffensperger to "find" enough votes for him to win and then just say you have "recalculated". Trump willfully tried to defraud the state of GA, and used intimidation to do it, imo.
    Yeah I was gonna say the same, Trump has clearly suffered cognitive decline. Just look at how low energy his 2024 announcement was and compare it to 2016 when he relished being able to take 9 people on at once in a debate.

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    Yeah I was gonna say the same, Trump has clearly suffered cognitive decline. Just look at how low energy his 2024 announcement was and compare it to 2016 when he relished being able to take 9 people on at once in a debate.
    What he did in those debates was fvcking epic. Compare that to the Biden debates. He pretty much got handled by the old man.

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    Do you have any take besides two word responses? Im guessing no.
    That’s as much as he can type in his condition.

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    What he did in those debates was fvcking epic. Compare that to the Biden debates. He pretty much got handled by the old man.
    Even against Biden he had some decent moments.

    I couldn't help but laugh in the final debate when Old Joe tried pivoting away from Hunter by talking about Beau and Trump basically responded with "I'm not talking about your war hero son, I'm talking about your crackhead son!"

    He was way sharper than he is now when he basically announced a run for president a month ago and has been chilling at home ever since.

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    I’ll double down on the opinion that he gets convicted and will be sentenced to jail time. And it will be over the January 6 stuff, not the mishandling of do ents. I know most believe he’s going to get away with everything with no jail time. Because that’s what we come to expect from old, “rich,” (even though he really may not be that rich at all) white dudes when it comes to the American criminal justice system. But all of this is unprecedented stuff, politically, socially, culturally. So I believe something unprecedented just may very well be the result.

    With the January 6 charges, even though the right is screaming up and down about how it was a partisan witch hunt, I don’t believe the committee goes through this entire process and gets the findings they do without legitimate evidence for the charges they ultimately decided to refer or without an expectation that that evidence is not only sufficient for an indictment but sufficient to get a conviction. If their evidence really is not good enough to get convictions, then everything the right is screaming about it being a kangaroo court is fair.

    What I do think should be the thing that should concern the Trump camp the most is the testimony of those witnesses who used to be in the inner Trump circle and/or were with and very near him during the attack on the Capitol and during conversations leading up to January 6 that directly or indirectly involved what would happen on January 6. Particularly people like Hope Hicks, Bill Barr, Pat Cipollone. Their testimony will be as damning if not more than any phone records, texts, tweets, and online evidence they might have. I really don’t believe he skates on this. The obstruction of an official proceeding charge is the very minimum I think he’ll be found guilty of. The fraud and false statements also seem like no-brainers to be proven in court. The insurrection charge is a pipe dream.

    Now I will acquiesce that he may plea to a deal that gets him no or very minimal jail time. But I think he’s in legitimate criminal trouble here.

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    Darrin could catch Trump ing his wife while kicking his dog and he'd probably thank him for it

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    Breaking the law, obstruction, etc. law and order bad now.

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    Breaking the law, obstruction, etc. law and order bad now.
    Well karrin has his drunk doubts, but thread should have options to account for Yam ’s GA election obstruction, NY state tax issues, J6 referrals, and my secret docs.

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    About as much of a chance as the Spurs have of ringing this year.

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    Even against Biden he had some decent moments.

    I couldn't help but laugh in the final debate when Old Joe tried pivoting away from Hunter by talking about Beau and Trump basically responded with "I'm not talking about your war hero son, I'm talking about your crackhead son!"

    He was way sharper than he is now when he basically announced a run for president a month ago and has been chilling at home ever since.
    Which makes me wonder what his MO is. Maybe his heart isn't really in another run and he announced it simply because he thinks running for POTUS grants him some sort of immunity. Of course it does not, but I think he has some pretty shallow attorneys who may be telling him that it does.

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    Yeah the secret docs thing will likely stick but he won't go to jail. They will strike some kind of deal where he does house arrest or something like that and he can't run for office again. Works for me.
    The most likely outcome, imo ^^

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    Which makes me wonder what his MO is. Maybe his heart isn't really in another run and he announced it simply because he thinks running for POTUS grants him some sort of immunity. Of course it does not, but I think he has some pretty shallow attorneys who may be telling him that it does.
    I think he kinda assumed all along that he has the primary locked up but doesn’t really know where to go from here in the likely scenario that he’s gonna have a real primary challenger…like does anyone really expect Trump’s fatass to show up to the Iowa state fair and go through the retail politics gauntlet that is the IA/NH primary?

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    Which makes me wonder what his MO is. Maybe his heart isn't really in another run and he announced it simply because he thinks running for POTUS grants him some sort of immunity. Of course it does not, but I think he has some pretty shallow attorneys who may be telling him that it does.
    It does complicate any legal investigation into and legal action against him -- it doesn't prevent either but does complicate them. He really doesn't have to do any campaigning for a year anyway; just make a few posts/interviews, hold a few "events" and watch Darrin's money roll in.

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    It does complicate any legal investigation into and legal action against him -- it doesn't prevent either but does complicate them. He really doesn't have to do any campaigning for a year anyway; just make a few posts/interviews, hold a few "events" and watch Darrin's money roll in.

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    If trash doesn't go to jail, it will be the

    no law is above the man

    And that rich white people are treated differently from poor non-white people in

    Come on America. I know you can do it

    Make both points loud and clear

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