Article: Initial Thoughts on Jakob Poeltl Trade

[timvp]

That's like best case scenario. I was thinking Top 8 would be good. Top 6 for three years? And the 2023 second? Really good. Better than what Utah got in their trade somehow.

[The Truth #6]

That first should convey.

[Mr. Body]

This gives the Spurs (right now) the 33 and 39 in the SR this year.

I think they have 3 SRPs in 2025, including Chicago.

I think they also have 3 FRPs in 2025?? (If CHI confers.)

[The Truth #6]

Any word if Bolano is going to be included and if this trade passes muster, etc.?

[BacktoBasics]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-rumo...ors-grizzlies/
Toronto’s 2024 first-round pick is protected No. 1-6 in 2024, 2025, and 2026, and the Raptors sent unprotected 2023 and 2025 second-round picks as part of the trade to acquire Poeltl from the Spurs, HoopsHype has learned

This is a good deal. Shooting for 2frp and getting a lightly protected 1st is great.

Highly likely to convey.

Raps have a solid team. But they’re not going to contend with that roster.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

This is a good deal. Shooting for 2frp and getting a lightly protected 1st is great.

Highly likely to convey.

Raps have a solid team. But they’re not going to contend with that roster.

Yeah Raptors have a lot of work and decisions to make with that roster, because Poeltl, Trent and FVV are going to be free agents and expecting to get paid. They'd go way above the tax if they keep everyone, so they'll have to make a lot of moves.

Also, OG Anunoby seems to be on the block for a picks package. Their roster might be very different in the next couple of years.

[Leetonidas]

That's like best case scenario. I was thinking Top 8 would be good. Top 6 for three years? And the 2023 second? Really good. Better than what Utah got in their trade somehow.

Any idea since last night whether or not this trade is being expanded to include anyone else from TOR or is this pretty much it?

[timvp]

Any idea since last night whether or not this trade is being expanded to include anyone else from TOR or is this pretty much it?

Last I heard, it depends on what else the Raptors do today.

[timvp]

Highly likely to convey.

There's like a 99.999% chance the pick conveys.

[duncan2150]

Last I heard, it depends on what else the Raptors do today.

In this Poeltl trade they need to add more salary to match Poeltl 9.3 Millins no ?

[Leetonidas]

In this Poeltl trade they need to add more salary to match Poeltl 9.3 Millins no ?

iirc Spurs being so far under the cap means they don't necessarily need to match incoming salary to make it work

[timvp]

In this Poeltl trade they need to add more salary to match Poeltl 9.3 Millins no ?

If I heard correctly, it depend on if the Raptors are in the lux tax. I haven't looked at their cap situation though.

[BacktoBasics]

There's like a 99.999% chance the pick conveys.

Even in a situation that isn’t ideal. Like the pick falling in the 14-19 range.

Extremely tradable pick that could be packaged up into all sorts of interesting combinations.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If I heard correctly, it depend on if the Raptors are in the lux tax. I haven't looked at their cap situation though.

Poeltl for Khem straight up pushes them over the tax, which violates the 125%+100k rule, so they'll need to make more moves, which they probably will - Trent, OG, etc. Or send Banton/Flynn/Koloko/Juancho to the Spurs.

[Kirbyk21]

Read all the time but post infrequently…

so if I have this right in the end we got the following for Kawhi:

Not including some good memories of Demar / Poeltl


Keldon Johnson
Branham
Raptors 24 1st
Bulls 25 1st
Future second from the Griz (I think we got a second round pick in 22 from one of the dang trades we made)
Two unprotected second round picks from Raptors

Am I missing anything?

[Mr. Body]

Poeltl for Khem straight up pushes them over the tax, which violates the 125%+100k rule, so they'll need to make more moves, which they probably will - Trent, OG, etc. Or send Banton/Flynn/Koloko/Juancho to the Spurs.

Henangomez to the Spurs for a second time.

[JPB]

if we got the Raptors 2023 2nd round pick, is there a chance we might be able to flip that one and/or our 2nd rounder into a late first rounder by moving J-Rich?

That doesn't sound unrealistic. Remains to be seen if there's an opportunity for that.

[MultiTroll]

https://www.spurstalk.com/thoughts-i...oeltl-raptors/

Do you think with the Spurs FO savvy they could land another Dougie McDermott or Bryn Forbes?

[duncan2150]

iirc Spurs being so far under the cap means they don't necessarily need to match incoming salary to make it work

In case if it's the Spurs who add the biggest part of the salaries but i think in this situation you need like 15% difference between team A and team B salaries.

Maybe i'm wrong

[duncan2150]

Poeltl for Khem straight up pushes them over the tax, which violates the 125%+100k rule, so they'll need to make more moves, which they probably will - Trent, OG, etc. Or send Banton/Flynn/Koloko/Juancho to the Spurs.

thanks that's what i'm talking about

[Leetonidas]

In case if it's the Spurs who add the biggest part of the salaries but i think in this situation you need like 15% difference between team A and team B salaries.

Maybe i'm wrong

Ah, gotcha. Thanks

[rjv]

https://www.spurstalk.com/thoughts-i...oeltl-raptors/

why wait for any details? it's always more fun to let our own ST versions of woj and shams fill in the blanks.

[timvp]

Poeltl for Khem straight up pushes them over the tax, which violates the 125%+100k rule, so they'll need to make more moves, which they probably will - Trent, OG, etc. Or send Banton/Flynn/Koloko/Juancho to the Spurs.

Yeah, this tracks with what I heard. I'm on the phone currently so haven't been able to dig in further.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Not a bad trade.

[JPB]

One (99.99% conveyed) FRP and 3 SRPs (MIA trade + TOR trade) while losing a role player who was probably gone in 3 months is pretty good business so far.