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    If Spurs get pushed out of the top 4 by odd-beaters on lottery drawings B.Mill could be a nice consolation prize at #5 but I'm gonna be PISSED if some crap like WSH or POR pushes out a 14%er against dismal odds

    ST servers will instantaneously melt into pools of liquid metal lol

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    Not the best game to pimp Brandon Miller, right?

    But yeah, he got game.
    Yeah might have to tap the brakes on my enthusiasm but I can't shake the feeling that there is something here to look at maybe lol

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    My evolving board now that I'm paying more attention:

    1. Wembanyama
    2. (Scoot Henderson)
    3. Anthony Black
    4. Brandon Miller

    I'd draft Scoot at 2 but immediately find bidders.

    Watching Baylor right now for Keyonte George.

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    Next switched to this Duke game now

    Getting a look at K. Flipowski and see what's going on

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    My evolving board now that I'm paying more attention:

    1. Wembanyama
    2. (Scoot Henderson)
    3. Anthony Black
    4. Brandon Miller

    I'd draft Scoot at 2 but immediately find bidders.

    Watching Baylor right now for Keyonte George.
    I want your opinion on George after the game pls, he is higher in my board than black for the moment.

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    I want your opinion on George after the game pls, he is higher in my board than black for the moment.
    I like how active and dynamic he is. Someone mentioned Markelle Fultz as a comp in college and that seems fair. Except George is way, way worse in efficiency. Maybe it's shot selection (looks like it) but his shooting percentages are awful. Can those be fixed?

    To me it speaks to how bad this draft actually is, within a certain range. I compared Black to Sochan, despite positional differences. But Sochan blew him away in advanced stats; not even close. Would I love having Black on the team? Or even George? Sure. At pick 3-5? Ehhhh...

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    My evolving board now that I'm paying more attention:

    1. Wembanyama
    2. (Scoot Henderson)
    3. Anthony Black
    4. Brandon Miller

    I'd draft Scoot at 2 but immediately find bidders.

    Watching Baylor right now for Keyonte George.
    Why would you wait until draft night with Scoot? If you draft him and teams know you don’t want him, his price goes down. There’s a month after the lottery to pit teams against each other for the right to draft him. Much different, and better selling dynamic.

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    Why would you wait until draft night with Scoot? If you draft him and teams know you don’t want him, his price goes down. There’s a month after the lottery to pit teams against each other for the right to draft him. Much different, and better selling dynamic.
    Yeah that's really what I meant.

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    I like how active and dynamic he is. Someone mentioned Markelle Fultz as a comp in college and that seems fair. Except George is way, way worse in efficiency. Maybe it's shot selection (looks like it) but his shooting percentages are awful. Can those be fixed?

    To me it speaks to how bad this draft actually is, within a certain range. I compared Black to Sochan, despite positional differences. But Sochan blew him away in advanced stats; not even close. Would I love having Black on the team? Or even George? Sure. At pick 3-5? Ehhhh...
    Imo his shooting form is good and quite pure. I think it's about shot selection for sure and confidence sometimes.

    Yes i also start to think that after the top 2 maybe 3 with Miller, there's not a lot of sure things. Nick Smith Jr is coming back today and he's my third or fourth choice, we'll see.

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    His ft% is something like .80%. It seems that suggests better or fixable shooting. I'm not a huge fan of his usage rate but that is personal bias.

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    Everyone I'm scouting having kinda flat games today?

    Flipowski and Keyonte rough starts imo and maybe B.Mill but I liked his stat line outside the 0-7 3PA (albeit still 1 shot below 50% overall) and the 3 TOs (albeit ratio'd against 3 AST) but yeah the eye test showed Miller kinda loitering all game opportunistic and not really a fulcrum or backbone to anything

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    Yup. Watched the second half of Alabama and then Baylor, and I'm definitely underwhelmed.
    Brandon Miller seems like a future nice piece, but not your franchise cornerstone... someone you feel good taking in the 6-10 range.
    Keyonte George looks like an undersized chucker. Bottom of the lottery material (11 - 15)
    If my board changes, it's because I keep pushing guys back.
    Honestly, if anyone was second guessing Scoot at no. 2... he's a no brainer.

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    I just feel like it's 1 nd 2 and then everyone else should start at the late lottery range. There's no one who really deserves those picks after #2.

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    A lot of college today, with most players of interest on the court.

    Watching Alabama vs. Auburn. The comps between Jabari and Brandon Miller are really spot on. I feel like Miller isn't as long, not as tall, but more fluid of an athlete. Smith could get shots over most anybody, Miller has to resort to dribble moves at times.

    I didn't watch Auburn a ton last year, but don't remember Smith being an exceptional passer, although a willing one. My sense is that Miller is better driving the ball and has better court vision.

    The age difference is still a sticking point. At least a little. Miller will be 21 around the early part of the season. He's older than Smith is.

    My call is that Miller is the superior player. In my eyes, he seems like he's still filling into his talent profile and expanding his game while Smith tbh always felt fairly finished. One pause is that Miller is still slight and lacks strength and he's already 20 and a half y.o. He doesn't shy from contact, at least, but he's a very slight PF.
    I like Miller better than Smith myself. I think he's got more 'want to' in his game. He'll be a very good pro.

    You might wanna check Black out in the Arkansas game too if you can. That Mississippi State team has been atrocious on offense but there D is some of the best around. It'll be interesting to see how he fares against their physicality.

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    I'm watching Michigan Indiana. Like Howard so far.

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    I'm watching Michigan Indiana. Like Howard so far.
    Hood-Schifino I like, but it feels too early for him. He could be a top 10 next year, perhaps.

    With the 33 or Toronto SRP I hope for Trayce Jackson-Davis, Tubelis out of Arizona, or Zach Edey, although Edey might go in the 1st. A hard call -- he's not the most mobile but is really talented.

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    Howard seems too passive, talented but disappears for stretches. Jackson-Davis is a bully in the paint, an explosive dunker, high energy guy... limited in today's NBA but a lot of fun to watch. Not sure about his fit, but could be worth a look in the second round. Would prefer another archetype though.

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    Howard seems too passive, talented but disappears for stretches. Jackson-Davis is a bully in the paint, an explosive dunker, high energy guy... limited in today's NBA but a lot of fun to watch. Not sure about his fit, but could be worth a look in the second round. Would prefer another archetype though.
    I like Howard pretty well, but I like Gradey better if we're looking for that archetype..

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    I'm watching Michigan Indiana. Like Howard so far.
    Those yellow jerseys on a yellow court are hard to watch on screen.

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    Incredible block by Jackson-Davis. Seems to have springs on his shoes.

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    Jackson-Davis, I swear I'll repeat myself, lol, if he's there in the 2nd I take him. He's a bench guy, but compares favorably to Brandon Clarke coming out of Gonzaga... Of course Clarke was younger, but TJD just knows the game, is physical, rangy, rebounds, blocks shots on the helpside very well. This team badly needs physical guys who can do those things.

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    Hood-Schifino I like, but it feels too early for him. He could be a top 10 next year, perhaps.
    I like him. If he declares for this draft, could be an interesting prospect later in the 1st round.

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    How is Drew Timme looking this year? I remember watching him outshine Chet in the tourney last year. I know he is an older, limited-potential pro, but could be a good bench role player. Our pick would be too early in the 2nd, but maybe the TOR pick if they end up climbing into playoff range somehow.

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    His ft% is something like .80%. It seems that suggests better or fixable shooting. I'm not a huge fan of his usage rate but that is personal bias.
    Dean had some thoughts on good, low usage players with tools, using Wagner as an example of a guy not asked to score at Michigan, but perfectly capable of doing so.

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    How is Drew Timme looking this year? I remember watching him outshine Chet in the tourney last year. I know he is an older, limited-potential pro, but could be a good bench role player. Our pick would be too early in the 2nd, but maybe the TOR pick if they end up climbing into playoff range somehow.
    He’s 23. That’s how he is.

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