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You're still on this stupid ? Have you never negotiated anything in your life?
meh, I thought the average is a c- with the poeltl operation being a flat F. Can't get how a team that has to buy players to get over the minimum threshold can't pay a good center, and then perhaps trade him the year after or whatever.
You're still on this stupid ? Have you never negotiated anything in your life?
Oh Jesus, are we going to start with DPG's weird bull again?
Overall they did really great. Sure, Poeltl will have pulled better in a better market, but they did great with the protections. I'm not bothered by the use of cap space. You fish or cut bait -- which means you can fish later, and the offseason is where they can try again.
It sounds like Bassey gets some of the pot of money all the players will get for going up to the floor? That's a nifty bit of free negotiation. I like him and think cementing him for a few years is smart.
Well, all I can say is and timvp can confirm, there seems to have been a real offer. Don’t know if it was an unprotected first but even if it was protected thats still way better than Richardson deal IMO.
I wrote at the time SA had little incentive to keep Richardson vs trade him in off season. It was something that was somewhat apparent early
What’s weird? It’s pertinent to the thread. If you dont like it, keep it moving.
Great, we're going to get more of how we should have traded five players and cap space for a draft pick.
You realize that my trade setup is basically exactly what UTA did so why are you acting like it was some outlandish thing lol? But for you, so you stop crying about people posting in a thread on subject, I will stop posting in this thread.
Just for you. Don’t say I never did anything for you ok. Please regale us with your entertaining and beautiful basketball mind and always unique insights.
By going well are you talking about Graham or the four SRPs turning into something?
He’s extended for four years that start next season. He’s going nowhere any time soon.
Graham turning into something…Im ok with the trade just dont think it was anything special. 4 2RP for Josh is good, but dont love Graham but if he turns into a + asset? Then it’s definitely a B+.
C to B- for me as of now
Keldon will probably be moved before long. He's doing the good soldier thing but he's not a cornerstone and would be better somewhere else. Vassell, I'm not sure. We need to actually see him play.
What I was trying to establish was whether all of this season's cap space will go to waste. It looks like there will be one last chance to use it, though I don't know how common it is for a team to carry that much cap space into a draft and absorb a bad contract in return for draft capital.
The point would be to find a team who wants to dump salary at the last minute, most likely to reduce or eliminate the luxury tax bill just before it comes due in July. From what I can tell only the Nuggets ($14.2M) and Nets ($12.4M) are into the tax by a low enough amount for the Spurs to get them out single-handedly. But getting a share of the over $600M in tax expected to be paid by all taxpayers combined (a non-tax team's share will be around $30M if nothing changes), rather than having to forego that $30M and pay the tax, could be worth a first.
Denver's outgoing firsts have so many protections and conditions that I don't know if they can trade any firsts on draft night (maybe their 2030, or 2029 with similar rolling protections as their 2027 outgoing first). Brooklyn has a bunch of extras from Phoenix; perhaps the 2023 Suns pick could be in play if the Suns finish the season hot and that pick is in the mid to late 20s.
I'm just brainstorming here.
Yeah and I learned from doing so at an early age, letting it be public what I want beforehand , then caving at the last minute portends poorly for the next negotiation. In fact I was an expert at this by the age of 8.You're still on this stupid ? Have you never negotiated anything in your life?
He's far from untouchable. Given how friendly his contract is, he could possibly fetch more than Derrick White did. Though White is a far better fit as a role player on a contender.
Just watch, we’ll trade him back to Toronto too.
Yeah, that's the thing. White is superior in a few departments that are really key -- and Boston sucked at. Keldon could be great as a third or fourth guy on a playoff team, but as we've seen no one has assets.
Understand.
You know how PATFO cater to their players. I just hope they get 2 FRP’s unprotected for him
He is next level stupid. I mean how in the can you be here this long and still have zero insight into how anything works?
Your trade scenario was consistently jamming more and more players into some idiot trade for a single pick. We got more by just trading two of those players in separate trades. Then you started screaming that nobody understood you.
Utah lost that trade pretty badly, btw.
Lol, taking DPG's side on this one. Ouch.
We can trade at the draft, but we can’t take ending contracts to lighten anyone’s tax load. That ship sailed at the deadline, so we’d just be getting a jump on next year’s cap space by taking extended salary.
Yeah, that Laker one shot pick is pretty crappy. The pick we got from TOR is much better, because we get three shots at a 1-6 protected pick, versus one shot at a 1-4.
I want to leave aside DPG's nonsense aside. He's fine otherwise.
Watching the LAL-GSW right now. Ainge gave the Lakers two starters, gave away a good PG in Conley, and got nothing but a distant FRP years from now after the Lakers will probably have reloaded. I can only guess he wanted to dump players?
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