Do we drop to 6 or 7, that’s what we’re fighting for at this point, right? Regardless, Pop has pulled most of the good young players already so it’s not like he’s trying to necessarily win.
You want the best odds possible for anything, and it's not secured yet. Not because you don't get Wemby that you shouldn't care after that. Best odds for #1 is secured, but not the lowest possible pick (7 so far, but possibly 6) and not the best odds for 5 and 6 if you finish bottom 3, or 5 if you finish bottom 2.
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Spurs still have a long-shot at securing the 2nd worst spot, but would need to lose out and need Houston to win one more game. Rockets remaining games are against the Hornets and Wizards, neither of which are world beaters...so it's not impossible.
To those saying it doesn't matter...it may seem insignificant but the difference between finishing in 3rd instead of 2nd is basically a 6% higher chance of falling into 6th, and a 7% chance of falling as far as 7th. I'd rather keep that 13% percentage in the Spurs favor in case we don't manage to land a top 4 pick.
It would be a real pain in the ass for this tank to result in pick #7, but that would literally be impossible if Spurs finish 2nd worst.
That said, I'm calling it now...Spurs are gonna end up tied with the Rockets and lose the coin-flip to end up in 3rd. At that point, it's up to the lottery gods.
That's where it stands right now. Do you really think #6 is substantially better than #7? I don't. I also think if we get 6 or 7, the Spurs will get a pretty good player off their board, since I'm nearly sure both twins are not in their top 10, and both will be gone by that point. That's also why I'm not averse to trading back.
Spurs still have a long-shot at securing the 2nd worst spot, but would need to lose out and need Houston to win one more game. Rockets remaining games are against the Hornets and Wizards, neither of which are world beaters...so it's not impossible.
To those saying it doesn't matter...it may seem insignificant but the difference between finishing in 3rd instead of 2nd is basically a 6% higher chance of falling into 6th, and a 7% chance of falling as far as 7th. I'd rather keep that 13% percentage in the Spurs favor in case we don't manage to land a top 4 pick.
It would be a real pain in the ass for this tank to result in pick #7, but that would literally be impossible if Spurs finish 2nd worst.
That said, I'm calling it now...Spurs are gonna end up tied with the Rockets and lose the coin-flip to end up in 3rd. At that point, it's up to the lottery gods.
Yes, I get that. But the people only concerned with getting a top pick are not even focused on that. They think the worst possible increases their odds at Wemby. They’re not even thinking about 6th or 7th.
Why does your chart (or the chart you posted) have Charlotte physically posted below the Spurs?
Spurs still have a long-shot at securing the 2nd worst spot, but would need to lose out and need Houston to win one more game. Rockets remaining games are against the Hornets and Wizards, neither of which are world beaters...so it's not impossible.
To those saying it doesn't matter...it may seem insignificant but the difference between finishing in 3rd instead of 2nd is basically a 6% higher chance of falling into 6th, and a 7% chance of falling as far as 7th. I'd rather keep that 13% percentage in the Spurs favor in case we don't manage to land a top 4 pick.
It would be a real pain in the ass for this tank to result in pick #7, but that would literally be impossible if Spurs finish 2nd worst.
That said, I'm calling it now...Spurs are gonna end up tied with the Rockets and lose the coin-flip to end up in 3rd. At that point, it's up to the lottery gods.
And if the Spurs land Wemby is the a chart that shows how many drinks and celebrations will happen among a % of SpursTalk.
Whereas if we fall to 6th or 7th what % will drown their disappointment in pizza and tequila? Hey that could also be the winning Wemby consumption.
Because when I made the chart, Charlotte was the closest in terms of Tragic Number and I've been too lazy to change it tbh
At this point, I'm all for guaranteeing the best odds possible...not only at top 4 (which is already accomplished), but also from falling out of top 5. I'd prefer for us not to even be in the 6 or 7 conversation but that ship has sailed.
Big picture we tanked and are in the bottom 3 without completely losing the team. The young guys get along, players have shown progress. I can’t complain too much. I suppose we have slightly lower odds for picks 2-5 or so but they put up a horrific season with a negative point differential for the ages.
We don’t have lower odds for picks 2-4 for being at 3rd place.
Why is 5 better? Honestly, anything below 3 is not good. The ONLY thing we have going for us if we drop is the inexplicable infatuation with the Thompson Twins. Them being picked in the 4-5 range will allow real players to drop.
Pick 1-4 odds are identical for 1,2,3. At position 3, we have smaller odds for 5 (14.8%), greater odds for 6 (26%), and a sliver (7%) odds, for pick 7. It's funny that a pack of posters think we will never get Wemby at 14%, but are sure to fall to #7 at 7%.
There is no coin flip unless both Houston and San Antonio get kicked out of the top 4. Otherwise whichever team secures the higher pick in the 1st round receives the lower pick in the 2nd round.
Spurs still have a long-shot at securing the 2nd worst spot, but would need to lose out and need Houston to win one more game. Rockets remaining games are against the Hornets and Wizards, neither of which are world beaters...so it's not impossible.
To those saying it doesn't matter...it may seem insignificant but the difference between finishing in 3rd instead of 2nd is basically a 6% higher chance of falling into 6th, and a 7% chance of falling as far as 7th. I'd rather keep that 13% percentage in the Spurs favor in case we don't manage to land a top 4 pick.
It would be a real pain in the ass for this tank to result in pick #7, but that would literally be impossible if Spurs finish 2nd worst.
That said, I'm calling it now...Spurs are gonna end up tied with the Rockets and lose the coin-flip to end up in 3rd. At that point, it's up to the lottery gods.
There absolutely IS a coin flip, pre-lottery, if they're tied. That's what we're talking about. All ties MUST be broken before the lottery takes place. That is done by coin flip in ALL cases. That determines which team has the pre-lottery odds of the #2 spot, worst case of #6 spot post lottery, and which team has the odds of the #3 spot, worst case of #7 overall post lottery. Whoever wins the flip gets #2 lottery odds, and the #33 SRP. The loser of the flip gets #3 lottery odds and the #32 SRP.
Your theory of higher pick, lower second pick is wrong. We could lose the coin flip, be assigned #3 pre lottery position and be assigned #32 pick, WIN THE LOTTERY, and we would still be picking at #32 in the second round. The second round is set before the lottery, strictly by record, taking into account coin flip tiebreakers, which are reversed in the second round.
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Cool beans how Spurs control own fate to make it to the coin flip.
Lose all 3, at worst we get the 50/50 flip.
Dallas may be in mega tank mode by the final game? With the protected top 10 pick?
If they're sitting at 10 on the final game wow that could be a real Tank vs Tank if Pop does the right thing.
spurs have a really good shot at beating portland and dallas-especially if we bring back some of the starters for the austin games.
Thank you.
Well ladies and gentlemen, that's all she wrote!
After a tank-tastic season, the Spurs are officially tied with the Houston Rockets for the 2nd worst record in the NBA.
It's a tad frustrating we couldn't squeak out one more loss to secure 2nd outright, but just bad luck/timing that we ended up going against a Mavericks team that went from the Western Conference Finals last season to actually tanking harder than San Antonio in their last couple games.
Kidd outright admitted to trying to throw the game against the Bulls on Friday (which now has garnered an investigation by the NBA), and Mavs followed that up with a 42-14 first quarter against the end of the Spurs bench on Sunday. That's some next level losing.
Either way, for tanking purposes it is hard to complain about being tied for 2nd worst. Now we all look forward to May 16th and pray to the lottery gods.
Does anyone know when they do the coin flip?
Someone said that the draft tiebreakers were settled about a week after the end of the regular season last year. I'm sure TaT will have them shortly after they are resolved.
Well ladies and gentlemen, that's all she wrote!
After a tank-tastic season, the Spurs are officially tied with the Houston Rockets for the 2nd worst record in the NBA.
It's a tad frustrating we couldn't squeak out one more loss to secure 2nd outright, but just bad luck/timing that we ended up going against a Mavericks team that went from the Western Conference Finals last season to actually tanking harder than San Antonio in their last couple games.
Kidd outright admitted to trying to throw the game against the Bulls on Friday (which now has garnered an investigation by the NBA), and Mavs followed that up with a 42-14 first quarter against the end of the Spurs bench on Sunday. That's some next level losing.
Either way, for tanking purposes it is hard to complain about being tied for 2nd worst. Now we all look forward to May 16th and pray to the lottery gods.
Does anyone know when they do the coin flip?
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