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    Mr. DeSantis named five appointees to the oversight board on Feb. 27. Three are lawyers who have donated campaign money to Mr. DeSantis. Another is a founder of Moms for Liberty, a group that backed Florida’s law restricting the discussion of sexuality and gender iden y in classrooms. The fifth is the chief executive of a Christian ministry who is known for spreading a baseless theory that tap water could turn people gay.
    How did we not piece together that Meatball Ron's hatred for Disney is related to where he was married?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/meatball ron-got-married-at-disney-world

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    What's so re ed about this Disney thing is that the median voter doesn't have some insanely polarized view of Disney or especially Disneyworld. The median voter thinks of Disney as an apolitical company that made movies they watched when they were kids and Disneyworld as the fun place their parents took them when they were a kid.

    DeSantis spending so much energy getting in a pissing match with Disney while the cost of living in FL is ballooning & homeowners there are facing 80% home insurance premium es just seems weird.

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    DeSantis spending so much energy getting in a pissing match with Disney while the cost of living in FL is ballooning & homeowners there are facing 80% home insurance premium es just seems weird.
    Not sure it's all that weird to see the GOP getting into culture war crap to distract from real issues again tbh. Has been their trademark since Bush got elected on fighting gay marriage.

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    What's so re ed about this Disney thing is that the median voter doesn't have some insanely polarized view of Disney or especially Disneyworld. The median voter thinks of Disney as an apolitical company that made movies they watched when they were kids and Disneyworld as the fun place their parents took them when they were a kid.

    DeSantis spending so much energy getting in a pissing match with Disney while the cost of living in FL is ballooning & homeowners there are facing 80% home insurance premium es just seems weird.
    &, it's still more than double on the western end of the manifest destiny, &, Your Newsom has done nothing about that. Also, Florida doesn't have mass hobo tent encampments, fentanyl, trash on every street, & illegal aliens.

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    Not sure it's all that weird to see the GOP getting into culture war crap to distract from real issues again tbh. Has been their trademark since Bush got elected on fighting gay marriage.
    The GOP is about policy, not culture war. The Left / Democrats always try to make it APPEAR like the GOP's primary issues are culture war, with their bogus attack ad commercials that paint each and every GOP candidate as a far-right cultural conservative and that that's all that they stand for and that that's all they care about and are running on when the truth is the Democrats are completely lacking in policy while the GOP goes to work and restores order economically and in terms of foreign policy compared to the nothingness the Democrats ever do except always let inflation and quan ative easing get out of hand and start mindless foreign wars like Vietnam, Libya and (almost) Syria.

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    What's so re ed about this Disney thing is that the median voter doesn't have some insanely polarized view of Disney or especially Disneyworld. The median voter thinks of Disney as an apolitical company that made movies they watched when they were kids and Disneyworld as the fun place their parents took them when they were a kid.

    DeSantis spending so much energy getting in a pissing match with Disney while the cost of living in FL is ballooning & homeowners there are facing 80% home insurance premium es just seems weird.
    Social media facing politics is a real phenomena. DeSanitarium likely doesn't care about Disney, probably was in their pockets until recently. All he cares about is attracting the Trump s that have been lost in the deserts of bigotry since their dear leader the bed on Jan 6.

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    The GOP is about policy, not culture war. The Left / Democrats always try to make it APPEAR like the GOP's primary issues are culture war, with their bogus attack ad commercials that paint each and every GOP candidate as a far-right cultural conservative and that that's all that they stand for and that that's all they care about and are running on when the truth is the Democrats are completely lacking in policy while the GOP goes to work and restores order economically and in terms of foreign policy compared to the nothingness the Democrats ever do except always let inflation and quan ative easing get out of hand and start mindless foreign wars like Vietnam, Libya and (almost) Syria.
    I see mommy put some meth into your easter basket today

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    Social media facing politics is a real phenomena. DeSanitarium likely doesn't care about Disney, probably was in their pockets until recently. All he cares about is attracting the Trump s that have been lost in the deserts of bigotry since their dear leader the bed in the 2022 midterms, particularly in the primaries.
    Fixed.
    Nobody who is a conservative, independent, moderate, or libertarian who cares about policy gives a flying about January 6th, 2021.

    I see mommy put some meth into your easter basket today
    It's April 9th, 2023. The Dumbocrats are still full of these 5th grade cheap insults, I see.

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    &, it's still more than double on the western end of the manifest destiny, &, Your Newsom has done nothing about that. Also, Florida doesn't have mass hobo tent encampments, fentanyl, trash on every street, & illegal aliens.






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    Florida checks all the boxes. You've been successfully distracted by muh culture war.

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    Florida checks all the boxes. You've been successfully distracted by muh culture war.
    Now, Chump, tell me the same stats for California.

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    Now, Chump, tell me the same stats for California.
    I'm not going to chase your goalpost move. You said Florida had none of these. Florida has all of these. It just didn't work out for you.

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    I'm not going to chase your goalpost move. You said Florida had none of these. Florida has all of these. It just didn't work out for you.

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    The GOP is about policy, not culture war.
    the gop hasn’t even released a budget proposal that it wants in order to raise the debt ceiling. All it’s done is carnival bark about Biden’s proposed budget.

    The GOP prides itself on its hatred towards governance.

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    Anyway if your news sources stretch beyond Tucker Carlson, Florida’s of living crisis is well known by now

    Miami rents are every bit as expensive as rents in SF/NYC at this point
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/flo...o-naples-rent/

    The tax savings form moving to FL largely gets cancelled out by the sky high rent
    https://www.businessinsider.com/movi...ing-2023-1?amp

    And all DeSantis has done to address is this is “deregulate” the insurance companies he’s in bed with to make it easier for them to jack home insurance rates up.

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    the gop hasn’t even released a budget proposal that it wants in order to raise the debt ceiling. All it’s done is carnival bark about Biden’s proposed budget.

    The GOP prides itself on its hatred towards governance.
    Limited government over individuals (NOT big businesses) is a good thing, plus the debt ceiling should not be raised, it should be lower. We need a massive contractionary economic and fiscal policy. If I was POTUS I would executive order that and the national debt would be 100 percent paid off by no later than the end of 2025.

    And all DeSantis has done to address is this is “deregulate” the insurance companies he’s in bed with to make it easier for them to jack home insurance rates up.
    Insurance is definitely one industry that should be regulated, though there's no evidence that he's "in bed" with any insurance companies.

    There's more empirical evidence that the Dems are in bed with the insurance companies. All the Obama ACA ever did was make it hard for individuals (especially those without specific jobs) to afford health insurance that is actually in network with a majority or even a decent percentage of doctors / providers. It gave the Aetna, Cigna, BCBS, and UHG of the world carte blanche to jack up health insurance through the roof, beyond the moon and past the Milky Way Galaxy... all at the expense of the individual US Citizen.

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    Limited government over individuals (NOT big businesses) is a good thing, plus the debt ceiling should not be raised, it should be lower. We need a massive contractionary economic and fiscal policy. If I was POTUS I would executive order that and the national debt would be 100 percent paid off by no later than the end of 2025.
    defaulting on the debt (which is what would happen if you "lowered" the debt ceiling) would crater our economy in a way that would make 2008 seem like no big deal.

    You're also ignoring what I actually said. The GOP hasn't put forth a budget or any coherent plan to lower the deficit. Biden has. Why hasn't the "policy-oriented" party been able to present a budget 90+ days after it retook the house?

    The GOP is precisely the opposite of what you're describing. It's limited government for big businesses (corporate tax cuts, deregulation, laws that make union busting easy) and big government for individuals (abortion restrictions).

    There's more empirical evidence that the Dems are in bed with the insurance companies.
    Try again dip , DeSantis gets tons of campaign donations from the same insurance companies jacking up homeowner insurance rates on Floridians:
    https://www.levernews.com/desantis-l...dustry-donors/

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    Florida checks all the boxes. You've been successfully distracted by muh culture war.
    not to mention their rapidly disappearing beaches/coastline they have to trawl the bottom of the ocean for sand to replenish frequently.

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    The GOP is precisely the opposite of what you're describing. It's limited government for big businesses (corporate tax cuts, deregulation, laws that make union busting easy) and big government for individuals (abortion restrictions).
    Abortion / Plan B restrictions are horse , but let's not be so quick to forget the draconian
    -executive shutdowns (2020-2021 in some cases),
    -federal, state, local, and private mask mandates (2020-2022, still existing or recently lifted even into 2023).
    -and federal employee (for certain positions), military, private, and certain trade vax mandates (2021-2022, with some private and trade vax mandates still existing into 2023).
    that were in place for roughly three years just because "well it's over now".... some people are permanently disaffected and compromised because of that.
    It's a gargantuan issue and a prime example of government overreach of individual liberty as well as the government not protecting the individual from compromisation of individual liberty from big establishments and employers.
    Never forgive; never forget.

    It's just as big of a deal if not worse than abortion because it's taking a novelty plague and using it as a weapon against the individual and increasing government tyranny over a novel issue that was never some kind of extinction level event.

    If they're going to pass the Equality Act (to federally require employers to not be prejudiced on basis of sexual orientation or gender iden y) the GOP - or some body within Congress - must include vaccination status as a protected class.

    I do include corporate tax hikes and most importantly, elimination of corporate tax loopholes, as part of my contractionary economic policy. Raise the Fed interest rate to around 12.5% and leave it there until inflation is rolled back to at least pre-covid (2019). Defund foreign en ies, foreign aid, and any military operation other than homeland security. Slash spending on everything other than the basics like roads, medicare, and social security. Pay off the national debt with a plan that's 85-90% decreasing spending and 10-15% corporate tax increase policy (hikes + elimination of corporate deductions / loopholes).
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    LMAO suggesting the GOP isn't about culture wars.

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    Abortion / Plan B restrictions are horse , but let's not be so quick to forget the draconian
    -executive shutdowns (2020-2021 in some cases),
    -federal, state, local, and private mask mandates (2020-2022, still existing or recently lifted even into 2023).
    -and federal employee (for certain positions), military, private, and certain trade vax mandates (2021-2022, with some private and trade vax mandates still existing into 2023).
    that were in place for roughly three years just because "well it's over now".... some people are permanently disaffected and compromised because of that.
    "Maintain an unwanted 40 week pregnancy and push a watermelon-sized human out of your vagina at the end" vs. "Get a shot and wear a mask if you choose to go to the grocery store."
    Conservatives are incredible pussies.

    Also Greg Abbott will be interested to learn that COVID shutdowns/mandates were a uniquely liberal policy.
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    LMAO suggesting the GOP isn't about culture wars.
    he’s simping for a presidential candidate who’s literally branded his state as the state “where woke goes to die”

    DeSantis even made gas stoves tax exempt purely to respond to Biden admin’s recommendation to not use gas stoves.

    Desantis’s entire presidential primary strategy is clearly to just out culture war Trump, who’s actually a lot more moderate than DeSantis on culture war/social issues.

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    Fixed.
    Nobody who is a conservative, independent, moderate, or libertarian who cares about policy gives a flying about January 6th, 2021.


    It's April 9th, 2023. The Dumbocrats are still full of these 5th grade cheap insults, I see.
    I take what you post with a grain of salt, about the size of your brain.

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    DeSantis even made gas stoves tax exempt purely to respond to Biden admin’s recommendation to not use gas stoves.
    BASED

    Gas stoves are the best, sleekest, and most efficient for cooking. As a real estate guy / home improvement manager (not DIY, but designer, i.e. I hire the laborers, as a side hobby / ex side business) I would definitely always get a nice black gas stove for any house I'm selling or buying if and when possible. They're by far the best looking, best for cooking, and most popular whether the fake green new deal Dems like it or not.

    If you have no choice but to go with electric, get a coil burner electric stove and not a glass top ("induction") stove -- those are terrible and the burners always go out and are high maintenance all around -- as a real estate guy I would know those are THE WORST.

    Desantis’s entire presidential primary strategy is clearly to just out culture war Trump, who’s actually a lot more moderate than DeSantis on culture war/social issues.
    True. Trump is a closet atheist and reasonably pro-choice, and also more moderate/populist on many of the economic/labor issues. He just can't spew the culturally moderate stuff or say he's not religious out loud because he'll lose his base, but it's painfully obvious when he talks about God or Christianity (a lot less than almost anyone else in the GOP, fwiw) he definitely doesn't come off as a sincere Christian.


    "Maintain an unwanted 40 week pregnancy and push a watermelon-sized human out of your vagina at the end" vs. "Get a shot and wear a mask if you choose to go to the grocery store."
    Conservatives are incredible pussies.
    I'm pro-choice, even if it's a "convenience abortion" early after conceiving or in the first trimester, but the big elephant in the room you're missing is that sex is just that... a choice. Unless you're raped, which is very rare despite what you see sensationalized on the news... sex is a choice.

    Sex is a choice... going to the grocery store is NOT a choice. Are you saying people should starve because they choose to not have their body violated by a very questionable, potentially long-term poisonous DNA-altering "vaccine" manufactured by BigPharma, with the help of Communist China? Are you saying people should starve because they have asthma, chronic sinus congestion, breathing disorders or other issues that may not allow them to comfortably wear a mask fully over their nose?

    You Democrats are the biggest hypocrites on Earth.

    I take what you post with a grain of salt, about the size of your brain.
    Insults without rhetoric, when rhetoric is a losing argument. Typical Democrat behavior #TDB

    Also Greg Abbott will be interested to learn that COVID shutdowns/mandates were a uniquely liberal policy.
    I'm aware. I had my fights with the H-E-B mask gestapo in the Spring of 2020. Got ejected a few times, but proudly shoplifted from them a few times in the process to make myself whole. I proudly voted for Huffines in the primary. If the Democrat candidate was someone better than Beto, might have considered showing Abbott the door over that.

    Abbott definitely wasn't as based as Desantis or even someone like Kemp.

    ^ Mom never noticed
    My mom's more based than me, a better cook than me, and taught me to read and write regular (non picture) books by age 2, all the states and capitals by age 2, how to do all four function math in my head by 3, long division and fractions by 4, and basic algebra by 5. Beyond that I didn't apply myself too much after my mom went back to teaching public school after my grandmother retired from teaching and I was left with my grandmother, who taught me Spanish and history and all the countries and capitals and geography of the world as she was an ESL teacher for 33 years. My mom is also the greatest artist and cook of all time. All of that without me ever growing up with any dad or step dad. No siblings, either. My mom committed my entire childhood to me. I have mad respect for that woman.

    My mom is a pro-Trump atheist conservative like me, believes the 2020 election was rigged, but doesn't buy the QAnon conspiracy stuff. She has friends who do, though.

    shoplifting

    What a child.
    As if your Democrats, particularly in blue states, don't do the same thing, and in most cases worth much more money, and expensive non-need goods rather than food; and generally violently rather than stealthily.

    Also, there's this. The libertarian anthem by one of the greatest libertarian musicians:

    (Skip to the last verse if you want)

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    ^ Mom never noticed

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    shoplifting

    What a child.

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