I think he would be a nice 2nd round pick, but probably later than where we pick. He's more of an old school player that would have been great a decade ago. I'm all for getting him as an undrafted player and signing him to the third 2 way contract.
Just because Sochan is a PF (he played SF plenty by the way) doesnt mean it forces Wemby to be a SF. That’s backwards. Wemby should force others to play around him, not the other way around. And Wemby in no way is a SF, both offensivey or defensively
Honestly who cares about these traditional positions? Need to be thinking in terms of roles, not positions.
Well, that's exactly my point. The role that best suits Wemby is being right at the middle of things. Have 4 guys spreading the floor for him while he post ups, isolates, plays on the high post, is the main set screener on pick and rolls. That's a center, tbh. That doesn't mean putting him on a box and only making him do traditional center stuff. Jokic brings the ball up, playmakes and shoots threes, but nobody would say he's anything but a center.
- Again, according to Givony, Wembanyama supposedly has no problem primarily playing C, just the notion of being put in the traditional box of one.
- No credible source has said the Spurs are focused on adding bigs and the reporting leaves out the important detail of what caliber (starter/rotation/deep bench)?
- Signing some random rim running C would reduce Wembanyama to either mostly a floor spacing role or an on ball one with even less spacing than they already have. This is a lot of what has held back Mobley offensively, only the Cavaliers had Allen first.
- That said, there is more physical demands to playing the position than just "defending Jokic and Embiid in the post". This is why the front court flexibility that they already possess is important to maintain.
You're reading too much into that predictable curveball, which momentarily halted momentum and "worked" in part because they had an elite help defender in Davis lurking.
Hachimura is also much stronger than Sochan.
No such thing. He doesn't have to, Collins, Bassey and Mamukelashvili exist and they can always sign a veteran, fringe rotation big to compete for minutes with the latter two.
Counting stats without context are irrelevant, the Raptors didn't just give up what they did to lose Poeltl, Lopez will almost certainly re-sign with the Bucks and it'd require an extreme overpay to so much as possibly pique his interest in a re-build.
Okay point still stands. Lopez is about to turn into a corpse at any moment and 14/9 is very difficult to find out of the 5 position.
Poeltl is a free agent nd I doubt they are going to offer him the max so I am not sure what your point is.
And sure you can find some spare big to throw at opposing centers or you could get someone better than average at it in Poeltl.
The conversation is about running point on pnr not the 1 position.
ANd which ones of those do you think are starting quality? We are counting bodies or talent?
That is precisely the center box: high/low post and roll man.
I don't disagree that much on Lopez, I think any contract with him should be viewed like the Pau contract. Maybe dependable for 1.5 good years, maybe 2 seasons with luck, but that third year will be a dead salary . Poeltl moves better on defense also.
I do like Lopez better fit wise on offense. Because he can either post or shoot threes, he's more versatile for however Wemby or even other guys like Sochan or Collins or Keldon want to play. Poeltl is mostly a roll guy, he's not spreading the court or getting too many 5-down calls.
I'd flip if the Spurs gave Lopez a three-year deal with a partial guarantee. Just give him all of the guaranteed money in two years. The knock-on effects from that Pau deal caused the Spurs to miss out on a number of opportunities, such as them having to trade Green in 2010 due to Gasol's expiring status and really perpetuating the cycle of dead money hanging on the books that continued to build with guys like Carroll. Give him $30-36M/2 and be done with it. Or give Leonard a $10M/2 with a non-guaranteed second year if there's a plan to use the cap space elsewhere.
Doing only that would be the "center box". Nobody is advocating for Wemby to do only that.
Agree. I'd rather give Lopez 40 over 2 years than 35 in a 15, 15, 5 (partial guarantee) in 3.
I think we should be using the next couple of years to fully work out what is the structure that'll work next to / around Wemby so there's a plan for the 2025 free agency period. Wemby is likely to be entering his early prime and be settled in then. I don't want dead $ on the cap in the contending period that the FO should be aiming towards.
That is the 5 that you are asking for.
How is the Brook Lopez thing supposed to work? He signs with the Spurs to come off the bench? You stick Zach Collins on the bench? You want Brook Lopez to not play for a contender, one of the most valuable role-players in the league?
Would love to see Jak back, but I fear no one would ever trade with us again if we did that
meh...they will get over it...Our first priority should doing whats best for us
I don't think he'd come, I think the Bucks pay to keep him for the contention window. I think it's worth considering as an option.
In terms of fit, start him to patrol the paint a bunch, and Bench Collins. Collins had a great run to finish the year, and has a useful skillset, but Brook is a lot better.
Brook Lopez is an excellent win now piece. He can shoot the 3 and play in the post both ends.
I don't see the Spurs spending more than $15m on a veteran free agent unless he is under 30 nonetheless.
I'm literally telling you the opposite, what's your problem?
You said you wanted him to play C. If you agree that he shouldn't defend C and should get a chance to be a primary ball handler and work the perimeter as well as the post then great.I'm literally telling you the opposite, what's your problem?
Teams don't give up relatively significant value for upcoming UFA's without knowing beforehand approximately what it's going to take to re-sign them and the likelihood of them wanting to do so.
Collins is going to start at C and Wembanyama is going to play some C too, so if they sign the caliber of C being thrown around ad nauseam on this board, the only way to get Sochan the minutes those same people want him to have, is to shoehorn him into SF or PG, either of which would make the offense untenable and limit Wembanyama to more of an off ball role.
Yeah I don't see us signing anyone and as far as Wemby position I don't care he can play what ever he wants on offense but he ain't playing Center on Defense at least not until he gains 20-30pds which is probably 3 to 4 years away from that happening
I could see The Spurs adding Lopez as a vet to help mentor Wemby. He already has a ring and may want to play for Pop before he hangs them up. I don’t really like the move, but I could see it happening.
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