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    In the early days Terry mings was good, even though by the time he got to us he was already on his last legs (knees actually).

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    Birch and Graham + Charlotte pick for Harris and Patty + a Nets 1st this year makes some sense for both teams.
    That's where i'm at, except i'd like to get away with sending our two SRPs instead of the CHA pick if possible.

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    Birch and Graham + Charlotte pick for Harris and Patty + a Nets 1st this year makes some sense for both teams.
    I feel like our 33 or something else needs to go to them to balance. They might be interested in an SRP next year instead of the 33, as they have no picks that year at all. I agree they'll like the ability to drop salary, but that doesn't seem to be the biggest concern. They're going to trade Royce O'Neal and Dorrian Finney-Smith this year. That might impact things. Joe Harris still has value as a player, too, although he's expensive.

    It's a sort of trade I've been pushing into the world.

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    I feel like our 33 or something else needs to go to them to balance. They might be interested in an SRP next year instead of the 33, as they have no picks that year at all. I agree they'll like the ability to drop salary, but that doesn't seem to be the biggest concern. They're going to trade Royce O'Neal and Dorrian Finney-Smith this year. That might impact things. Joe Harris still has value as a player, too, although he's expensive.

    It's a sort of trade I've been pushing into the world.
    It's possible it could take a 2nd added to get it done. One the O'Neal or DFS thing, are they going to move one of them for salary cap space or as buyers by attaching something? I don't see why they'd move either for space because they don't own their own picks going forward. Moving those guys feels like a modified tear-down and I don't think they are going in that direction. Part of the reason I could see them moving one of their picks is to move salary that doesn't really add up to more wins, with the goal being staying under the tax and still trying to field a semi-compe ive team. Are they doing something other than that?

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    It's possible it could take a 2nd added to get it done. One the O'Neal or DFS thing, are they going to move one of them for salary cap space or as buyers by attaching something? I don't see why they'd move either for space because they don't own their own picks going forward. Moving those guys feels like a modified tear-down and I don't think they are going in that direction. Part of the reason I could see them moving one of their picks is to move salary that doesn't really add up to more wins, with the goal being staying under the tax and still trying to field a semi-compe ive team. Are they doing something other than that?
    I think Brooklyn wants to remain compe ive, yeah. They're in a bad place with their own picks. Marks is a seriously good evaluator of bargain talent, in my mind, and think they can do well.

    From what I gather, they want to move those extra 3-and-D wings for assets, not as salary dumps, and think they will find suitors. They're good players, just no room for them on the team.

    I do think Brooklyn wouldn't mind shedding salary, just don't think that's a priority. They lose a lot of salary after next year. Honestly, other than not controlling their picks, they're not in horrible shape for a rebuild-on-the-fly. They got screwed by their prima donnas, but Bridges looks like a near star who is a good citizen, they have some other pieces, and draft picks from other teams.

    I really do think selling them on picks next year is a starting point, though.

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    I think Brooklyn wants to remain compe ive, yeah. They're in a bad place with their own picks. Marks is a seriously good evaluator of bargain talent, in my mind, and think they can do well.

    From what I gather, they want to move those extra 3-and-D wings for assets, not as salary dumps, and think they will find suitors. They're good players, just no room for them on the team.

    I do think Brooklyn wouldn't mind shedding salary, just don't think that's a priority. They lose a lot of salary after next year. Honestly, other than not controlling their picks, they're not in horrible shape for a rebuild-on-the-fly. They got screwed by their prima donnas, but Bridges looks like a near star who is a good citizen, they have some other pieces, and draft picks from other teams.

    I really do think selling them on picks next year is a starting point, though.
    I agree that they would like to balance out their picks by adding some next year. As for O'Neal and DFS, I just don't see them bringing back anything of value unless Brooklyn adds something and I doubt they want to add picks to them. On the salary, I don't think deeply cutting it is a high priority, but I do think they will shed just enough to get under the tax (although they do have until the deadline to accomplish that). I can't see them paying the tax this year.

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    I agree that they would like to balance out their picks by adding some next year. As for O'Neal and DFS, I just don't see them bringing back anything of value unless Brooklyn adds something and I doubt they want to add picks to them. On the salary, I don't think deeply cutting it is a high priority, but I do think they will shed just enough to get under the tax (although they do have until the deadline to accomplish that). I can't see them paying the tax this year.
    Rumors are that Memphis was offering four picks for Bridges last year and two picks for O'Neal. These would have been later first round picks and before everything blew up for them. Take that with a grain of salt.

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    Rumors are that Memphis was offering four picks for Bridges last year and two picks for O'Neal. These would have been later first round picks and before everything blew up for them. Take that with a grain of salt.
    I definitely see the value in Bridges... cheap contract to boot make him very valuable. I wouldn’t trade him for 4 low firsts either...

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    I definitely see the value in Bridges... cheap contract to boot make him very valuable. I wouldn’t trade him for 4 low firsts either...
    Bridges' name is flying around but I don't think BKN trades him unless it's a king's ransom and that ransom fits them. He's likeable, hard-working, very presentable, wants to be there. I don't quite think he's star level, but that hardly matters. He also played 83 games this season! As a culture fit, he's superb for them.

    Anyway, I think they're in alright shape given how devastating the toxic whiny personalities of those three stars were. Like, if Harden leaves Philly -- and now I don't think he will, he's just angling for cash -- they're dead in the water.

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    Definitely go for a promising PG in this years draft.

    Also - why not go for Patty Mills? He's in the final year of a $6.8M contract. He'd be a great leadership guy and could help bring up whatever young PG we have, not to mention 3P shooting + spacing with Wemby. If not now, would love to see him return as a FA next Summer. Come on home Patty Melt!

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    Definitely go for a promising PG in this years draft.

    Also - why not go for Patty Mills? He's in the final year of a $6.8M contract. He'd be a great leadership guy and could help bring up whatever young PG we have, not to mention 3P shooting + spacing with Wemby. If not now, would love to see him return as a FA next Summer. Come on home Patty Melt!
    If there's room, I'm for Patty coming back. He's basically done as a player, but having him on hand would be excellent.

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    Make Sochan your PG. Problem solved.

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    Rumors are that Memphis was offering four picks for Bridges last year and two picks for O'Neal. These would have been later first round picks and before everything blew up for them. Take that with a grain of salt.
    Still those will be 20+ picks barring Ja Morant actually goes ahead does something more with his gun than posting stupid videos. I wouldn't trade Bridges, but if they would, just hold Portland for ransom and get #3 + Sharpe + whatever else you can (future pick, so on). Or call Toronto for a swap that gets you OG Anunoby + #13 + future pick. Something like that, were you get proven young players (or at least, somewhat) plus picks, rather than just picks.

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    Still those will be 20+ picks barring Ja Morant actually goes ahead does something more with his gun than posting stupid videos. I wouldn't trade Bridges, but if they would, just hold Portland for ransom and get #3 + Sharpe + whatever else you can (future pick, so on). Or call Toronto for a swap that gets you OG Anunoby + #13 + future pick. Something like that, were you get proven young players (or at least, somewhat) plus picks, rather than just picks.
    That sounds like something the Craptors would have the audacity to propose.

    From a Trail Blazers perspective, if they're trading the 3rd pick to them, it's got to be Siakam or bust.

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    That sounds like something the Craptors would have the audacity to propose.

    From a Trail Blazers perspective, if they're trading the 3rd pick to them, it's got to be Siakam or bust.
    I've clearly stated there I wouldn't trade Bridges if I were Brooklyn, I'm using it as an example of a very straight up trade that gives them a replacement plus better assets than the proposed 4 20+ picks from Memphis.

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    I've clearly stated there I wouldn't trade Bridges if I were Brooklyn, I'm using it as an example of a very straight up trade that gives them a replacement plus better assets than the proposed 4 20+ picks from Memphis.
    Bridges flashed more on ball ability in his short stint as a Net so far than Anunoby has in his entire career. He's also signed long term and far more durable. Not comparable at all.

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    J.R. Reid! Will Perdue!
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    Charles smith

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    I liked him actually.

    Antoine Carr, Cadillac Anderson

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    Nets are not trading Bridges unless it's a crazy offer no one will pull since he's not a franchise player or something, simply a potential, feel good all star on a poor year.
    He could be very valuable on a contender but not worth the prize at the end of the day.

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    I liked him actually.

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    Was Terry mings bad in San Antonio?

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    Was Terry mings bad in San Antonio?
    after the knee he was still serviceable on offense

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    Was Terry mings bad in San Antonio?
    Not at all! He put up 22 and 8 his first season with us. In year 2 and 3, when Elliott was starting to increase his presence, he still put up 17 and 8 and 17 and 9. Then he blew out his knee in an offseason pickup game and was never the same (though he still went on to play like 9 more years?).

    TC was an epic addition and part of what I refer to as the 1989 Model* that we could consider for Wemby but I tend to agree that we should go slower.

    *The 1989 Model was to surround your incoming franchise player with the best team possible. To get TC, the Spurs traded several “young core” assets.

    I wouldn’t say it would be like us getting Dame, because TC was a 28-year old two-time All Star when we got him. The best currently analogy I could think of would be if we traded Keldon and Branham for Julius Randall? Maybe that fits? I think those two current Spurs are the most analogous because to get TC we gave up our team leader from the year before (Alvin Robertson) and a promising young building block that was a fringe part of the core (Cadillac Anderson).

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    David Robinson never had much help at power forward. He only had Terry mings and Tim Duncan.

    *The 1989 Model was to surround your incoming franchise player with the best team possible. To get TC, the Spurs traded several “young core” assets.
    They traded Alvin Robertson who was a reprobate (albeit a semi-all star level reprobate) and Cadillac Anderson, who had an altogether unforgettable career. In hindsight, the Spurs fleeced the Bucks in that trade.

    But regarding the 1989 model, one thing they did do was bring in a past his prime but still able to contribute veteran point guard with championship experience in Maurice Cheeks. That type of guy would be perfect for this team. Of course, they traded Cheeks mid-way through the season for Rod Strickland, but still. it made sense then. It makes sense now.

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    Don't look too much into a traditional PG. What team in the playoffs this year had a "true PG"

    Everyone is playing out of position, you don't need a CP3 PG anymore.

    This should and will be out starting 5 to open the season and Pop will either decide to go traditional or run with it by 1/4 of the season:

    Sohan
    DV
    KJ
    Wemby
    Collins

    That's a damn fun starting 5 that has some serious potential. Stop overthinking and run with it. Defensively we would be great, which is all that matters to the Spurs.

    For anyone disagreeing, hard to name 8 teams better than that in the West, just saying.

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