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  1. #326
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    nets are going to eat simmons tbh

    he's going to be way too difficult to move and they're not in the position to be giving away assets
    We’ll see. You are probably right, but Nets are one of the few teams who make huge risky trades and Ben Simmons might need to be a part of the trade to make it work and we are one of the few teams out there capable of just absorbing his salary, and that is not something done cheaply.

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    Nets will need to give up way more than a 20 and a 21 to get rid of Simmons' salary. That thing is hideous.

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    I’m fine with 2 first and 2 seconds as long as we get one of the guys we really want. My preference beyond Scoot and Amen would be Ausar (convert to point guard, I truly believe he can do anything his bro can do) and right behind him Cason Wallace. Either of those two guys would be worth 2 first and 2 seconds in a heartbeat.

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    Nets will need to give up way more than a 20 and a 21 to get rid of Simmons' salary. That thing is hideous.
    I mean they could definitely throw in a wing defender like Royce or maybe Seth Curry (he might be free agent actually), but you get the idea. Maybe throw in Spencer Dimwiddie. I think he averaged like 8 assists last year in Jersey.

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    https://twitter.com/ajohnsonnba/stat...RJS8_UemWCmgcA

    Draft night shaping up to be very interesting…trying not to get my hopes up because I’m still skeptical the Spurs actually move up into the lottery, but damn the hype will be real this season if we end up landing a PG in the first round
    Here's the tweet, embedded:



    That's a lot of sellers, probably more than they are buyers since the Top 10 doesn't seem to be where the value is in this draft.

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    If we stay put at 33, I wouldn't mind the Spurs drsfting this guy:



    It would be a nice change of pace to draft someone with elite shooting.

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    Here's the tweet, embedded:



    That's a lot of sellers, probably more than they are buyers since the Top 10 doesn't seem to be where the value is in this draft.
    Nods sagely.

    OKC wants up.

    Utah wants a second one, or maybe to package and move up with their 9.

    Not sure about any others.

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    Nods sagely.

    OKC wants up.

    Utah wants a second one, or maybe to package and move up with their 9.

    Not sure about any others.
    Utah already has 3 FRPs.

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    When was the last time the Spurs didn't give ample time for a first round pick to succeed through development? (Primo obviously forced the FOs hand so let's not go there).

    If the intel from timvp is accurate, (and I have no reason to doubt it), the Wemby-process/crapshoot has been in place for a while now.
    With that being said, I'd find it hard to believe they wouldn't have a plan in place for Blake Wesley to be given a bigger role next season if there is significant signs of improvement through Summer League.
    He, in theory, could be exactly what many in the thread have described already: lightning quick, able to break initial defenses down, improving shooter, C&S threat from 3, tenacious on-ball defender etc.

    I remember George Hill's first Summer League and parts of his first season, and I don't think anybody optimistically could have projected the improvement from Year 1 to Year 2.

    Not saying he will take that great of a leap but the Spurs usually err on the side of caution, patience and internal development with these things. Writing a player off after one season seems imprudent.
    He's going to have to play if they are committed to his development and I think he will, backing up Tre Jones to start the year.

    I expect a big Summer from him.

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    https://www.poundingtherock.com/2023...is-development

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    Utah already has 3 FRPs.
    How many are in the top 10?

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    When was the last time the Spurs didn't give ample time for a first round pick to succeed through development? (Primo obviously forced the FOs hand so let's not go there).

    If the intel from timvp is accurate, (and I have no reason to doubt it), the Wemby-process/crapshoot has been in place for a while now.
    With that being said, I'd find it hard to believe they wouldn't have a plan in place for Blake Wesley to be given a bigger role next season if there is significant signs of improvement through Summer League.
    He, in theory, could be exactly what many in the thread have described already: lightning quick, able to break initial defenses down, improving shooter, C&S threat from 3, tenacious on-ball defender etc.

    I remember George Hill's first Summer League and parts of his first season, and I don't think anybody optimistically could have projected the improvement from Year 1 to Year 2.

    Not saying he will take that great of a leap but the Spurs usually err on the side of caution, patience and internal development with these things. Writing a player off after one season seems imprudent.
    He's going to have to play if they are committed to his development and I think he will, backing up Tre Jones to start the year.

    I expect a big Summer from him.
    Sure, but why would you let everything hang on Blake Wesley?

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    I agree, I really think that meniscus tear really put Wesley behind the curve for the season. Last years Summer league he looked like a dog out there!


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    Sure, but why would you let everything hang on Blake Wesley?
    I don't think you do and I'm not saying you should.
    I just find it difficult to believe the Spurs would be throwing him to the scrap heap after his first season (especially an injury plagued one).

    They are likely to have a role/opportunity in place for him. Not sure I buy the idea of the Spurs trading future capital to move up and log jam a position for developmental compe ion.
    If a BPA PG is available with the second rounders, that pick is likely going to the G League at first, irrespective of if he outplays Wesley in camp.

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    I don't think you do and I'm not saying you should.
    I just find it difficult to believe the Spurs would be throwing him to the scrap heap after his first season (especially an injury plagued one).

    They are likely to have a role/opportunity in place for him. Not sure I buy the idea of the Spurs trading future capital to move up and log jam a position for developmental compe ion.
    If a BPA PG is available with the second rounders, that pick is likely going to the G League at first, irrespective of if he outplays Wesley in camp.
    That's fair, and I'm not sure a lot of people are throwing Blake away. I admit my optimism with him comes and goes. Ultimately, I don't think it's wise to hang a starting PG on his development. Honestly, I don't think that's fair to him, either.

    My push/desire for a PG right now stems from two major things:

    - We have a ton of draft capital we need to somehow use.
    - This draft has a good number of creative guards.

    We can never have enough players who can pressure defenses, drive, kick, getting back closer to the beautiful game. We're seeing the trouble having too many draft picks can be for a team like Thunder, and probably Utah this year. Somehow we have to use them. Why not go for another budding young player who can begin their development now? If one or two are attractive, try for them. If it doesn't work, then you've kept your powder dry. No big deal.

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    I’m just not seeing a point guard I want in this draft. Who is the best SF in the draft? Can we trade
    for that? I would like some size and length at that position

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    I agree, I really think that meniscus tear really put Wesley behind the curve for the season. Last years Summer league he looked like a dog out there!
    It was his medial collateral ligament, not his meniscus.

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    Devin is an elite PNR scorer at the wings at 84 percentile this is Middleton territory. Branham is advanced for his age at 66 percentile. How? Vassell is statistically a top 10 jump shooter and Branham is top 5 on floaters. Who in this cluster of guards has a top 10 skill on offense when they come into the league? Keyonte off ball shooting and maybe Bufkin finishing.

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    I don't think you do and I'm not saying you should.
    I just find it difficult to believe the Spurs would be throwing him to the scrap heap after his first season (especially an injury plagued one).

    They are likely to have a role/opportunity in place for him. Not sure I buy the idea of the Spurs trading future capital to move up and log jam a position for developmental compe ion.
    If a BPA PG is available with the second rounders, that pick is likely going to the G League at first, irrespective of if he outplays Wesley in camp.
    Blake shouldn't be discarded, but also no opportunity should be passed up on because we're counting on him. He was a project, we always knew that, and we used a late pick were there were no clearly better altervatives. He should continue to work hard and be evaluated on a yearly basis. If he shows progress, keep him on the roster. If he doesn't, move on. As long as we don't use his presence on the team to justify passing on better talent, we'll be fine either way.

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    So... no new options out of the 2023 draft. We may never know if ORL was sending the 11 pick to us -- the Thunder jumped over to take Cason Wallace at 10. A strange move given ORL wasn't going to take any PG at that spot.

    If a trade was possible, then the Spurs could have taken Bufkin, so... either they don't value Bufkin or the trade was never an option.

    ANYWAY... the PG position is still a big question.

    What we have now:
    1. Resign Tre Jones. This was always going to happen, but is extra important now.
    2. Develop Blake Wesley. He has good initial skills. Few players have his blow-by speed.
    3. Utilize Devonte Graham. While he's not a long-term solution, he's a willing shooter, can handle the ball, and a good chap.
    4. Other facilitators are on the roster, although defense worries me.

    Other options:
    1. We have FA options, I suppose, but it's not clear who these are.
    2. We draft someone in the future.

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