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No that's not what he's saying...hes saying he likes Sochan better than Keldon and Vassell, I believe..
Are you confident saying players in that zone have defin ley more value than Keldon or Devin? I exclude from that zone the top prospects ofc, understanding that teams from that zone trading us their pick would also expect a pick, meaning prospects from that zone would have more value than Keldon +FRP or Devin + FRP.
I'm farily sure that if we already had some player form that zone and Keldon, or Devin would be available this draft, some would want us to trade said player + a FPR to get Keldon or Devin...
No that's not what he's saying...hes saying he likes Sochan better than Keldon and Vassell, I believe..
He was answering that question so I assume he was tallking about that whe he says he'd prefer move Keldon and Devin first. (I wouldn't move Sochan either ofc).
Nah, they need guards, shooting, experience and have cap space, which is why the likes of Van Vleet and Trent Jr. have been mentioned as targets.
I suspect Johnson's value leaguewide isn't as high as many on this board would like to believe and that the Spurs preference would be to give him another season (4 years of developmental resources, value contract, thin on wings) to see if he can carve out a niche and how he fits around Wembanyama.
I’m down for 8 if Black is still there and they want to stock pile picks. That would be ideal for us.
I agree for the last part but teams in the top 10-15 might just simply take BPA independently of needs.
I think Keldon's value around the league is pretty good, but i do agree with you on Orlando's needs. I think Devin would be who they'd want in the package for #6. He would fit great there and played at FSU.
Yeah I think the absolute best pick Keldon could fetch is maybe #10 (mavs pick) and honestly I wouldn’t be thrilled with that. Would rather wait and hope that Kobe Bufkin falls between 15-20 and we trade a picks package for him.
I think there is a formulation of this that works where they send us Lowry & a pick and we send Birch to WAS.
The interesting factors are:
1. the (moronic) Beal no trade clause which hurts WAS’ leverage.
2. Fact that (by my count anyway) Miami only has 3 tradable FRPs including this year. They have few SRPs.
Ideally the price for dumping Lowry onto us is one of those picks (maybe 18 this year), but will the other two picks, Herro, and maybe Struss/Jovic be enough for WAS?
Many teams would take Keldon in a second. The question is what they would pay for him.
Why? I think it would simply be to have a Vet on the team to help guide the younger guys and if it helps get to the playoffs then so be it. I just don't think they are believing they are going to win the championship next year and would just want to get the young guys a veteran.
Can’t say I’m too thrilled about some of these revelations:
1. Trading up for Black or Bufkin is fine, but given what it would likely cost, I would prefer not to do it. In fact, I’m almost certain those other scouts mentioning those names are just speculating, and that nobody really knows who the front office is interested in drafting (besides Wembanyama).
2. I really don’t like the idea of getting Chris Paul/Fred VanVleet. If I had to pick one, I’d go with Paul, but I think it’s a bad idea to bring in a veteran who doesn’t fit the current roster’s timeline and take minutes away from our youngsters, especially given the number of guards we have.
3. I am pleased though the team is trying to move up in the draft, though I don’t see it likely to materialize. More likely, I think, is that the Spurs will draft a first-round talent that fell into the second round at 33 and trade 44 for a future second rounder, or draft and stash.
That's essentially what I said.
People keep throwing around the Mavericks at 10, but he doesn't fit their needs (defensive anchor and 3 and D big wing/forward).
White is older, but better, yet the best singular asset he went for was a late 1st, so I don't buy the notion that Johnson would go for a top 10 pick.
I'd be interested in Struss in that package actually... i havent thiught it through but hed be a nice player depending on what we do with thevrest of the roster.
He's a FA.
If I'm Washington, I take Hendricks or Ausar, someone with long term possibility.
Those sources have been reading Spurstalk.No offense to Timvp but how exactly would other GMs , scouts or executives know who spurs would be targeting? That's pure speculation, guessing not information. If anything spurs are creating smoke screens.... Black is spurs material so Spurs would be interested in him... they certainly are in a vac , and would maybe trade up in the 20s for him, but not for the prize it would cost in the top 10... I mean when was the last time whe knew who spurs were really targeting?
Who knows, maybe Timvp is part of the smoke screens...
No you aren't, you're taking Black.
Washington? No. They might, but it would be a really bad fit.
The Spurs and their fans value Sochan more than other teams. highly overrated
He's a bad fit in San Antonio.
So CP3, FVV, Bufkin and Black as potential PG targets? And resigning Tre J?
Nah, not buying the smoke on this one. They're all at the opposite ends of G development outcomes... so I guess in theory we would have all our bases covered.
I can't believe I'm actually saying this but D-Lo wouldn't be a bad pick up in FA at a compe ive salary. I actually think I'd prefer him to FVV or CP3. (Still can't believe I'm typing this).
I had been thinking of starting a thread ranking the Spurs future picks, but I'm not as illustrious as some of the other posters on this board. With that said, here is how I would rank all of our yet-to-be-taken FRPs, WITHOUT fully considering the time value of picks (which I think is very real. A pick this year is worth more than a pick next year with equal protections), though I did factor in some time element. What I didn't consider is trying to crystal ball how good teams will be in the future. So for now, a Spurs unprotected FRP is worth more than a ATL unprotected FRP because the Spurs are currently a lotto team and ATL is currently a play-in team. I only went out to 2028.
1. 2023 Spurs FRP (duh. It's #1 overall)
2. 2026 Spurs FRP w/ ATL pick Swap (this is the most valuable because it has the added benefit of being able to be high based on the outcome of two teams, not just one)
3. 2028 Spurs FRP w/ BOS pick Swap (this is slightly less valuable than the 2026 pick with the ATL swap, because BOS's swap is protected for the #1 overall pick)
4. 2024 Spurs FRP
5. 2025 Spurs FRP
6. 2025 Hawks FRP
7. 2027 Spurs FRP
8. 2027 Hawks FRP
9. 2024 Raptors FRP (Top 6 protected)
10. 2025 Bull FRP (Top 10 Protected)
11. 2024 Hornets FRP (Lotto Protected)
Nothing realistic. Pick #2 or #3 probably.
Charlotte or Portland wouldn't make that trade.
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