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Exactly. That’s the whole standoff in Portland, lol.
Even if the Spurs wanted Dame, wouldn't he likely not want to go to a team that isn't a contender yet? In other words, wouldn't he likely nix the trade, or do you think he's be receptive to SA?
Edit : As others have also mentioned, his salary is going to be very high for someone his age that doesn't really fit the timeline. Not sure how interested the Spurs would be in that? Not very is my opinion.
Exactly. That’s the whole standoff in Portland, lol.
he tweeted he wanted to play with wembanyama.......
How long ago was the tweet? Very recent, or a while back?
Not going to happen, but for discussion purposes... I don't think Miami can offer much. Duncan Robinson + Tyler Herro, two FRPs and a swap. I think I've seen that on their subreddit. Or Lowry instead of Robinson.
The Spurs aren't offering a Herro type player but he's not seen as a great asset given a very reduced range of effectiveness and terrible defense. Robinson is straight up a bad contract. I don't think the Spurs would have to offer four picks to beat that.
Lillard is a 32 year old point guard. He turns 33 next month. What is the track record for 33 year old, 6’2 point guards? I don’t doubt he can be great for two years. But after that, he’ll decline and you wont be able to trade him down the road for half of what you pay to get him now.
Is giving up Vassel or Sochan and a bunch of first round draft picks worth 2 years of solid to great play? I’m not convinced SA gets that much better with Wemby in year 1.
I mean timeline doesn’t really matter. We need an older guy who can play anyways and 33 isn’t that old. Y’all timeline guys are hilarious. If we supposedly already have other young talent alongside with Wemby, we don’t need more young talent. You can’t have an entire ing team of people 23 and younger.
Lillard is in his prime and he is a great shooter. It solves the spacing issue almost immediately in the starting line up. Lillard can also break down a defense, create his own shot and for others, plus hit big shots. He is bad defensively but Pg defense is some of the most overrated ever. Mookie Blaylock might’ve been a top 3 PG defender of all time, he wasn’t very good. You also only need to offer 3 picks since Miami can’t offer more than two. He is an upgrade for sure
That being said, that contract is beyond awful when he’s 37. 60 ing million dollars for him is gross. It basically means we have one year during Wembys prime. I don’t think that’s worth it. But it does put us in the WCF conversation. Avoid Denver and we can hang with anybody. It’s not enough for a championship though unless Wemby does come out like Duncan in which case this is a no brainer. Otherwise I pass
I don't think its going to happen either, nor do i think that it should, but i do think little pump pieces like Marks just ran highlight the fact that we can compete with anybody if someone we do want becomes available.
Bobby Marks using the short term thinking that has gotten so many teams/GMs in trouble.
nba and outside media wants to see that with wemby but good thing spurs dont operate like that.
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Yes, timeline matters. By the time Wemby is ready to dominate starting in his third year, Lillard will be 35+ and on the downslope. Who cares what he can do now at age 33? Why completely over the Spurs’ roster in the latter half of the 2020’s paying $60+ million to Dame’s corpse just so the Spurs can go 45-37 next year?
Dame is ing good but 2 years too early. The plan is to take pressure off of Wemby from unrealistic expectations by doing a low key rebuild until he is ready to win. They would throw out there that they are trying to get guys but would offer little.
Lillard is such a grifter. The only player I'd want on my team less than him is Harden. No idea why so many folks like him. Is it just because they were so burned by Kawhi that they'd fall for a charlatan rambling on about loyalty while hamstringing his front office and gaslighting his fanbase? I have no problem with the Spurs acquiring an old star to help guide Wemby ala David for Tim. But they could do better than Dame simply by doing nothing.
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Milwaukee Bucks guard Jevon Carter will decline his $2.24 million player option for the 2023-24 season and become an unrestricted free agent, a league source told @hoopshype. Carter, a strong defender, shot 42.1 percent from 3-point range in 81 regular-season games played.
As was expected.
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OFFICIAL: The Lakers extended qualifying offers to Rui Hachimura and Austin Reaves. As a result of the qualifying offers, Hachimura and Reaves become restricted free agents.
DiVicenzo opted out. Any takers?
If the Spurs did intend to make a big trade, they could make it on this side of new league year and thus go into next season as an over-the-cap team with the MLE and all their roster holds in tow rather than playing the cap space game with only the room exception to help out. If they have any intention of going after Lowry, Simons or Valanciunas, it might behoove them to put pressure on those teams now to avoid missing out on flexibility.
Another idea for dealing with their center depth is to try to get Dallas to dump McGee on them. Javale has had an interesting career, and he's pretty old at this point. But he was really good in Phoenix. His salary is big enough to where I'd want Dallas to pay SA to take it, but I'm not sure there is any payment Dallas has to offer at this point. In general I would be interested in the Spurs pursuing key players from recent Finals teams who could be attainable without breaking the bank. I've talked about Lopez, and everyone else has talked about Lowry. Middleton, Holiday and Brogdan are also options. He doesn't seem to be on any type of market, but Kevon Looney is another guy to keep an eye on. Thankfully Draymond doesn't fit that mold. McGee does, if he can still get it done. Are guys like Carter or diVincenzo options? I don't know. That's getting pretty far down the list.
Dame seems like the kind of guy who will still be ballin’ at 37 years old… but not a $60MM level of ballin’.
Trading for Dame is the best way to burn all your assets. Doesnt make sense with his contract and him being 33. If the Spurs bring in a star it‘s best to do it via free agency or by trading draft picks only for a team that wants to go into a rebuild. Right now I don’t see any options, but we don’t need that player this season
One target who would come for relatively inexpensive value would be Donte DiVincenzo who just opted out from Golden State. A good player who is competent at both ends of the floor and would be a very good backup to Vassell. He can be the immediate Romeo Langford replacement and could push Branham to be more compe ive.
Would rather making an offer to Austin Reeves first and fk the Lakers cap room if they match
Reaves was very good for the Lakers in the playoffs. But DiVincenzo, I think, is more rounded. And a perfect 3rd/ 4th option on offense and a very good defensive guard with high IQ. Besides, I think ..to pry out Reaves ..the Spurs would have to backload his contract (poison pill? or some such). Needn't do that for DiVincenzo.
Only a good idea to do that during a year where you don't mind having the money tied up. You make a QO and the team waits until all the free agents are gone to match. Maybe this is that year for the Spurs.
Timeline is everything for a GM... Spurs are not gonna jeoperdize their future and lose most of their best assets for maybe 2 good years of a 6"2 Lillard who never really did aynthing in the NBA than stat pad.. That does't make sense, spurs are not gonna ring in that span and you don't get your assets back at the end...
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