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Any mention on those Raptor boards about the potential of their 2024 #1 pick conveying to us?
Things are lining up for the Spurs to be the team that gives Reaves his big deal. It's possible that whoever signs him (if anyone) would rather wait until 07/06 to make a move in order to force the Lakers into a more immediate matching situation. LAL for its part seems to be loading up for a two-year window. This doesn't instantly mean Reaves is gone, since he only counts for the MLE for the first two years anyway. But these mid-sized three-year deals clogging up 2025 cap space would make Reaves' max deal hard to swallow in a couple of years. If the Spurs want him, I wish they could work out a sign-and-trade to just get it over with. But as mentioned, that's not possible. We should have a sense if the Spurs are that team if they still carry huge cap space through next week.
Also, WTF is up with this idea of renouncing Champ and Tre to open up cap space? It's possible, I think for the Spurs to withdraw their QO while not renouncing Jones and thus save a bit of space before re-signing him with the Bird rights they retained. But obviously if they got rid of his cap hold, they couldn't go over the cap to retain him.
Any mention on those Raptor boards about the potential of their 2024 #1 pick conveying to us?
We gotta do it, boys and girls. You just can't let the Lakers get a 50% discount on their third best player.
A little risky but there's also a lot of upside, IMO.
I haven't heard that the Spurs are interested in Reaves at all ... but that's something they'd keep especially quiet because he's restricted.
So could we sign Reeves to a 2-year deal?
edit: even a 4-year deal would make sense. You could still decide to trade him or Keldon down the line if you want to sign a max guy. Both should be nice trade assets. I‘m on board
What's the deal on what a Reaves contract would actually look like? My understanding is that the backloaded deal is only what the Lakers would have to pay, but a 4/100 on our books would look like a normal deal.
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Free agent Derrick Rose has agreed to a deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.
We’ve reached peak stupidity. Even after our FO stated unequivocally that they wanted to avoid big contract mistakes.
4 for 52 is appropriate value. You want push LA then offer 60 but if we whip out 75 million and they tell us to eat it then this entire collection of idiocy will hate that contract after post nut clarity reveals Reaves to be just a decent bench guy who should be making 11 a year.
Let the Holy War commenceYeah, looks like the Spurs can still offer Reaves that four-year, $100 million deal. I'm kinda rooting for that outcome now if just for entertainment purposes
I can see the Rockets doing it.
Not the Spurs and their "we handle things with class" kind of approach. Would totally be awesome though. Screw over the Lakers a little bit.
I mean think about it: It would destroy the Lakers chances to sign any big time FAs when they have to pay Reeves 40 million in 2025 and 2026. We got a good chance to get him and can frontload his deal
This is like a good example of the prisoner's dilemma. Spurs give a contract they know Lakers will match, but then the Lakers don't match and we're on the hook for a bad contract.
Don't play games. Nothing's changed after a fairly expected first four hours of FAs. Let the Lakers figure their own dumb selves out signing Cam Reddish and . Let's be about us.
Nah... arguably better, than Vassell... he's worth the money.. 2nd best player on our team day 1..
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Free agent Derrick Rose has agreed to a deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.
Yep. It's be like $25ish Million each year for the Spurs, but the Lakers could only count the MLE for the first two years and then have to push the rest of that cap space into the latter two years. For both teams, the cash payments would be the same, but LAL's cap and cash would match, and SA would basically have to pay a lot less cash compared to cap this year and next and then have to pay more cash in the back half.
I did mention something wrong before: The Spurs HAVE to give Reaves a flat-cap deal. It's the Lakers who'd have the option of flat or with the big jump, assuming they had cap or an exception big enough to absorb the flatten APY. They don't, so they're stuck with the jump.
Someone just posted this online, "new 2023-24 Grizzlies logo"
In years 3 and 4, the cap will also be significantly higher. Assuming we extend Dev, would Reaves even be that big an impediment to signing a max player? Right now, our only contracts going into 2025 are Vic, Keldon, Sochan, Bran, Blake, Champ, Bassey.
Have the spurs ever fcked over a team like they could la?!
Laker fans love him, they would have to match us.
The front office probably agrees with you, to be fair. That's a reality based, mature opinion.
But ............. my counterpoint would be that the only reason the Lakers made the playoffs this year is they stopped running the offense through LeBron and AD and started running it through Reaves instead. That sounds ludicrous but it's what happened. And even if his three-point shooting regresses a bit, he gets to the line so often that his scoring efficiency will almost certainly be better than any on San Antonio's roster outside of an older version of Wemby.
Yeah, I think folks here are mostly ing around. Doing dealings out of spite (in life generally) is a recipe for disaster in the long run. If the spurs do make the offer I trust they’re doing it from a place of strategy/specific goals for the roster’s construction.
Could Graham + 2nd's to LA in a S&T work ...or would their base riot?
Your sample size of him playing at that high of a level is too small. Reaves played behind Lonnie before he got hurt.
Reaves was decent during the regular season but not exceptional.
Nothing comes to mind. Usually the opposite, Spurs being real nice to teams and players.
If Reaves isn't working ...
Still have enough room to add Birch and Graham etc and get Lillard for 10 firsts
The notion that Reeves is just a role player is pretty idiotic. Is he an All-Star? No, but he has no weakness in his game, is a positive on both ends, can play make, doesn’t shy away from big moments, is fast, has an elite crossover, size and has only played 2 NBA seasons. There‘s still some upside here. The PG options out there are so bad that he‘s easily our best bet and 25 million is not that expensive as people here want to make it out to be.
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