2023 NBA Free Agency Thread - June 30 @ 5 pm CDT

[spurraider21]

IOW you're not jumping ship. The ownership group thanks you for your continued support.

this is the "you participate in society" meme in sports fanhood form

congratulations

guys, if you're here on spurstalk, make sure you effusively praise everything the team does. unless you are willing to abandon your fanhood, please refrain from having any criticism over what is happening. thank you.

[Joseph Kony]

nope. we have to avoid costly mistakes

Holt probably saw the salary for the #1 pick after Wemby signed and was like nope, no more of that

[ChumpDumper]

That’s not the point imo. Spurs clearly don’t value winning now so replacing him just means a good vet that gets the minutes he already had.

If they were winning? Agree 100%

But they aren’t and can use their tools for their future while not sacrificing core things like a good vet replacement in locker room and on court.

Yeah, if we're just getting someone to take abuse from bigger centers for Wemby this season, Grogu Dieng is always ready. If we want someone who might be able to do that going forward, maybe Bamba.

Or maybe just roll with the platoon that's there now because the Spurs will be in the lottery again whether you added Plumlee or not.

[exstatic]

The thing imo is that vassell is nowhere near players who have big extensions these days, he did not have a good complete season already ( bane had two for example)

if you want to extend him at a good price you need to do it before the season

An extension on a rookie deal has to be done before the season in any case, per the CBA.

[Kurik]

this is the "you participate in society" meme in sports fanhood form

congratulations

guys, if you're here on spurstalk, make sure you effusively praise everything the team does. unless you are willing to abandon your fanhood, please refrain from having any criticism over what is happening. thank you.

I promise to listen to everything the Spurs say and only discuss things that happened in the last hour.

[Biggems]

Man, Christian Wood must have fallen completely out of favor with the league. He was good in Detroit and had a good first year with Houston. Now, it is like he has Covid and no one wants to get near him.

[Mugen]

Some real Sniff gems since they won the lottery tbh:

-"They tried to trade back into the 1st round but the cost was too high" (Mavs easily traded back in with SAC)
-Trading #33 makes a lot of sense because Sidy is probably on a two-way (Sidy is on a fully guaranteed contract)
-Spurs should wait until July 6th to make an offer to Reaves, he'll definitely wait it out until then (Reaves signs on July 2nd at a heavy discount)
-Mamu not getting a QO isn't a cheap move, they're working on something big (No other moves besides bringing Manu back for a few hundred K cheaper)
-Spurs are being smart by not giving out huge money and locking up a bunch of years to FAs (Vet deals and 1yr contracts to a ton of guys that would have helped the roster and not even get in the way of the young guys)

"Uhhh we like what we have"

[ChumpDumper]

this is the "you participate in society" meme in sports fanhood form

congratulations

guys, if you're here on spurstalk, make sure you effusively praise everything the team does. unless you are willing to abandon your fanhood, please refrain from having any criticism over what is happening. thank you.

Nah, I'm presenting what I think is the ownership group's calculus and what they think fans will do -- and that includes you.

My guess is they see this as probably the only opportunity to maximize profits by spending nothing more they they are obligated. There may have been signings and deals they could squint at and see might have been worth it -- that's why the cap was preserved for a bit with the Mamu QO mini-drama. Those pie in the sky scenarios disappeared quickly so now it looks like PATFO is working under an apparent floor-is-cap directive for this season unless some incredible opportunity presents itself.

You can criticize it all you want as long as you want. I'm not here to stop you. I'm just saying what I think is happening. So far, everything they've done and haven't done fits. I may want things to have been different, but here we are.

[spurraider21]

Some real Sniff gems since they won the lottery tbh:

-"They tried to trade back into the 1st round but the cost was too high" (Mavs easily traded back in with SAC)
-Trading #33 makes a lot of sense because Sidy is probably on a two-way (Sidy is on a fully guaranteed contract)
-Spurs should wait until July 6th to make an offer to Reaves, he'll definitely wait it out until then (Reaves signs on July 2nd at a heavy discount)
-Mamu not getting a QO isn't a cheap move, they're working on something big (No other moves besides bringing Manu back for a few hundred K cheaper)
-Spurs are being smart by not giving out huge money and locking up a bunch of years to FAs (Vet deals and 1yr contracts to a ton of guys that would have helped the roster and not even get in the way of the young guys)

"Uhhh we like what we have"

"our operating budget is probably right at the salary floor, but unless you are willing to abandon your fanhood, shut the up about it already"

[ChumpDumper]

"our operating budget is probably right at the salary floor, but unless you are willing to abandon your fanhood, shut the up about it already"

No one ever told you to shut the up.

[spurraider21]

Nah, I'm presenting what I think is the ownership group's calculus and what they think fans will do -- and that includes you.

My guess is they see this as probably the only opportunity to maximize profits by spending nothing more they they are obligated. There may have been signings and deals they could squint at and see might have been worth it -- that's why the cap was preserved for a bit with the Mamu QO mini-drama. Those pie in the sky scenarios disappeared quickly so now it looks like PATFO is working under an apparent floor-is-cap directive for this season unless some incredible opportunity presents itself.

You can criticize it all you want as long as you want. I'm not here to stop you. I'm just saying what I think is happening. So far, everything they've done and haven't done fits. I may want things to have been different, but here we are.

this is all just terrible stuff tbh

why would any superstar want to play here?

[ChumpDumper]

this is all just terrible stuff tbh

why would any superstar want to play here?

And yet, Wemby does.

He seems pretty optimistic about the season, doesn't he?

[LeBowen]

Mason Plumlee is the only Clipper free agent with Bird rights. Alternative big man option would’ve been at the minimum since they don’t have the mid-level exception.
$5M signing costs $30M in payroll and added tax penalties. They have a $300M roster now.

Ballmer doesn't give a .
$30M for Plumlee.

[Death In June]

I’m just curious if there are any quality free agents next year now that the spurs could clear more than 50 million in cap space. Is there one or two names that top this years crop?

[Mal]

And yet, Wemby does.

He seems pretty optimistic about the season, doesn't he?

Then he realise that cheap/poor owner does not win rings...

[Bruno]

I’m just curious if there are any quality free agents next year now that the spurs could clear more than 50 million in cap space. Is there one or two names that top this years crop?

Dejounte Murray

[duncan2150]

An extension on a rookie deal has to be done before the season in any case, per the CBA.

I mean don't wait next summer to extend vassell

[Mal]

I’m just curious if there are any quality free agents next year now that the spurs could clear more than 50 million in cap space. Is there one or two names that top this years crop?

There is always "trade me" free agency possible.

[ChumpDumper]

Then he realise that cheap/poor owner does not win rings...

But they have.

Several times.

You saw it.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

So the C rotation is Collins with a long injury history, Bassey, Mamu and Barlow?

You’re telling me they couldn’t have thrown a 1yr/10mil contract at Jock or Plumlee? They’re gonna bring in Joffrey 2.0, and the sniff crew is gonna go there’s your off-season signing like it was enough. What an fn joke

there's one more player on the roster
his last name starts with w and ends with embanyama

[Mal]

But they have.

Several times.

You saw it.

Which team ? Denver 7th payroll, GSW 1st, Toronto in 19` - 4th, Milwaukee 7th.

[ChumpDumper]

there's one more player on the roster
his last name starts with w and ends with embanyama

Yeah I don't understand the "Wemby will never play C this season" paradigm people seem to have adopted. It's not the 90s.

[ChumpDumper]

Which team ? Denver 7th payroll, GSW 1st, Toronto in 19` - 4th, Milwaukee 7th.

What team is listed as "My Team" in your profile?

[duncan2150]

I’m just curious if there are any quality free agents next year now that the spurs could clear more than 50 million in cap space. Is there one or two names that top this years crop?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2024/ufa/

a little bit similar to this year as jaylen brown will probably extend

[Mal]

What team is listed as "My Team" in your profile?

It's different NBA now, money is absurd.
Owners are willing to pay 250mil with penalty taxes to keep their 50 mil a year players. Spurs won when whole cap was 50mil. You cannot compete 100mil roster vs 250mil, in league where any player can request a trade to certain team.