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Oh no they got robin Lopez too
i dont read into their "behavior" any further than understanding it was an extremely weak FA class, especially in terms of players that actually fit into the equation for this particular team long term
Oh no they got robin Lopez too
There was a year, where PATFO thought the team wasn't talented enough to win it all and got the green light from ownership to go significantly into luxury tax territory.
That year was 2009-2010 and the move that put Spurs deep into luxury tax territory was the trade for Richard Jefferson...
The Spurs have paid luxury tax six times.
I wasn’t aware the fan base was expecting them to hand a bag to a marginal free agent just to prove they’re willing to spend money.
The Spurs ought to be ready to make the playoffs in 2024-25 and contend for championships in 2025-26. If instead they have a bargain-basement ty supporting cast around Victor holding him back, I’ll be right there damning them.
Of course it would also be galactically stupid from a financial standpoint to alienate and disillusion their meal ticket by doing that, and I expect them to act in their own best interest.
They're just trying to make up for 4 years of lost profits...at least profits their accustomed to
at least now we finally know the real reason Holt was so pumped to win the draft lotto
I don't buy the Spurs are being cheap for the sake of putting money in the owner's pocket takes. We paid the tax in the past when we were in a position to compete for championships. I don't agree with their passivity this offseason, but I don't think its just being cheap.
Seriously. This "let's buy just to buy " just show an incomplete and petulant understanding of the team. I always wonder how such a smart franchise has such frantic, jumpy, and mindless fans.
This is great info - thank you
The mopey types haven't said who they think the Spurs should have acquired and at what price.
Interesting that in 2013-14, when we were perhaps one of the greatest teams of all time, we ranked #19 in total payroll.
Also, our very very very good 2015-16 and 2016-17 teams ranked #5 and #4, respectively.
More than FAs, I believe a star asking for a trade (and fitting the timeline) may be the safer way to grab one. If the Kyrie experience fails and Dallas is having another disappointing year, who knows if Luka may ask out? He'll be 25 next year and the idea of forming a dynasty with Wemby in a formidable and uber-talented guard/big combo could seduce him. Kid hates to lose as much as Victor.
And I don't see any team with better assets than the spurs (reason why not wasting them matters) to make that trade happen (young players + picsk)... If Luka says he only wants to come here, Cuban won't have any choice and will eat his pride, with our goodies to cope.
I look at all these new posters and I am seeing like they have thousands posts and I am like I don't ever remember seeing any of there post the past several years. All of a sudden we get the number 1 pick and all these strange posters coming out of the wood work suddenly start chirping feels like room full of Cicadas.
People who follow the Spurs understand that we have won our championships through tanking and drafting and we will win another one doing the exact same thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it ..........it is not Rocket Science. So sit back and enjoy the ride you might actually find out you enjoy watching the kids grow up just like we did with Tony, Timmy, Manu, and Parker...
in that 13-14 season, duncan was making about 10 mil, manu about 7. kawhi was on his rookie deal earning less than 2 mil
splitter was making nearly as much as duncan was
Oh yeah, Tony and Parker, my favourite combination of PGs.I look at all these new posters and I am seeing like they have thousands posts and I am like I don't ever remember seeing any of there post the past several years. All of a sudden we get the number 1 pick and all these strange posters coming out of the wood work suddenly start chirping feels like room full of Cicadas.
People who follow the Spurs understand that we have won our championships through tanking and drafting and we will win another one doing the exact same thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it ..........it is not Rocket Science. So sit back and enjoy the ride you might actually find out you enjoy watching the kids grow up just like we did with Tony, Timmy, Manu, and Parker...
The player empowerment and giving them the ability to successfully demand trades has effectively killed free agency and in some ways works in the Spurs favor, because it allows them to compete for players who may not otherwise want to come here.
But I quoted the bolded portion, because too much player empowerment (I will only play for XXXXX) may hurt the Spurs, because even with Wemby I don't think a lot of players are going to say they will only play for the Spurs (unfortunately).
In fairness, this place has been a graveyard for the past 5 years or so, something interesting has finally happened to the Spurs so yea you'll get newbies. Sorry they disagree with your opinion.I look at all these new posters and I am seeing like they have thousands posts and I am like I don't ever remember seeing any of there post the past several years. All of a sudden we get the number 1 pick and all these strange posters coming out of the wood work suddenly start chirping feels like room full of Cicadas.
People who follow the Spurs understand that we have won our championships through tanking and drafting and we will win another one doing the exact same thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it ..........it is not Rocket Science. So sit back and enjoy the ride you might actually find out you enjoy watching the kids grow up just like we did with Tony, Timmy, Manu, and Parker...
Denver has Jokic & Murray making a bank - Do people really want Spurs to splurge like that on some weak ass free agents?
GSW had Curry, Klay, Dray & Wiggings... - Do people...
Toronto in 19 had Nephew, Lowry making. - Do people...
Milwaukee has Giannis, Middleton & Jrue.. - Do people....
Spurs don't have anyone of that level on that roster, yet. Wemby will likely command that rookie designation max, and if the Spurs don't give it him then by all means posters should complaint loudly. Everyone would join in on that.
Spending cap on fodder for the sake of spending is how you get a treadmilling team.
Spurs ownership has shown that they are willing to pay the Luxury Tax during contending years before. It makes no sense to be upset about them not blowing their load rn when the team is just about to start their transition from tanking to learning how to Win with a roster full of young unproven players.
I agree your entire post - but I do think it is worth pointing out that this is a different ownership group. Hold Jr is not his father, many of the old legacy owners have bowed out, and there are new capital partners in play. The new capital partners is what gives me hope that they'll be willing to spend. I don't see the point in investing in a team like the Spurs if not to build a winner that you can market. Being a low-spending team can be a good business model, but not when you are buying in at a $2B valuation.
Are the Holts still majority owners?
What would a realistic trade option for James Harden look like. I know nobody wants him, but could we send Philly filler plus the Chi pick and the Charlotte pick? There’s almost zero market for him and he has to play well if he wants a max salary after next year.
I reaaaaaally don’t want Tre Jones as our starting PG guys. Just a waste of a ing season in both wins and Wemby development if that’s the case
Make the money now to spend later.
absolutely no to harden under any cir stances. like, i'm not for getting in on the lillard sweepstakes at all, but man id prefer that to harden and it doesnt come close.
i like tre as a player, not as a starter, but it is what it is for this year. devote graham will also be playing on what is effectively a contract year trying to prove himself, and Wesley should have plenty of opportunities to showcase his development. branham also spent quite a bit of time running the point last year. i dont know if thats still an experiment they're interested in or not, but there will be a few versions of this offense. and we already know theyve tried some of that with sochan as well
i dont think its going to just be the Tre Jones show all year
No Dude. Just no.
Said it before but it bears repeating for those obsessed with adding a rotational C: The Heat made two Finals and three Conference Finals in four seasons with a bunch of undrafted players playing relatively important roles throughout.
If they could do that, then surely the re-building Spurs can provide opportunity for similar types to do the same.
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