2023 NBA Free Agency Thread - June 30 @ 5 pm CDT

[Extra Stout]

He was until he was shoehorned in as a point guard. Exactly the same thing the Spurs are trying to do to Blake Wesley.

I don’t think being forced to play point guard is why he still gets his pushed in every time he drives into the paint.

[Ignazzz]

I do remember them. Tbh I haven’t thought about Lloyd Daniels in years
Man I hated Red McCombs too.
Vinny was our starting SG not PG though and I hated him too. Somehow he was a better coach than he was a player and he sucked at both. Completely off topic, but if Dave didn’t get injured in 96 then I think we ring. We would only have one ring as a franchise, so thankfully everyone was hurt, but I think Wilkins gets us over the top that year.

holly crap
you ruined my breakfest with Vinny & lloyd reminder

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I don’t think being forced to play point guard is why he still gets his pushed in every time he drives into the paint.

I do.

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But I still think he has more to show before summer league is over.

[spurraider21]

According to this they are only a little over $3MM to the floor, but that includes Steven's full deal. If we waive him before guaranteeing the whole year, we'd be $4.5 short. We could always guarantee him and then waive him, and that would count towards the floor per timvp

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/

more likely they end up giving Tre/Mamu/champ extra money when it comes time to make signings official

[ismael-robert]

This game showed why we should've picked up reaves

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This game showed why we should've picked up reaves

You mean the guy the Lakers said they would match at any price?

[TD 21]

Many times the difference between second rounders (and even many 1st rounders) and undrafted guys is opportunities. You might not find an undrafted all-star, but you can build many championship level role players if you have the eye and give the guys the time to develop.

Yeah and it's mostly derived from organizational stability. It's not that the Heat or Spurs have magic pixie dust, it's that their top executives/coaches are never in danger of being fired, so they can afford to take on projects and exercise patience, a luxury most of the league can't afford.

[Mr. Body]

This game showed why we should've picked up reaves

A Summer League game against scrubs showed you that we should have picked up a player we never could have signed? That's amazing.

[ChumpDumper]

This game showed why we should've picked up reaves

Yeah we would've won with him....

[ismael-robert]

Gosh no one has ability to think for themselves here so let me spell it out. It showed how far Wesley has to go thus needing a pg n maybe moving on to an already proven player rather than investing more time to get unreliable results. You believe everything everyone says, especially the lakers? What u expect them to say, yeah come get him everyone! ��

[Mr. Body]

Gosh no one has ability to think for themselves here so let me spell it out. It showed how far Wesley has to go thus needing a pg n maybe moving on to an already proven player rather than investing more time to get unreliable results. You believe everything everyone says, especially the lakers? What u expect them to say, yeah come get him everyone! ��

I'm not sure how many times people have to tell you Austin Reaves was always going to stay a Laker.

[Das Texan]

Yeah that’s the one. I hated him as a Spurs fan. The dude just got roasted by everybody. Idgaf that his number is up in the banners, he sucked. I do like him hitting the game winner in 99. But if he wasn’t so ty I feel like Robinson would’ve rang before Duncan came along.

blame Red McCombs.

[ismael-robert]

How many times st posters tell me? Infinite.

[Teamduncan21]

Reaves seems to have signed the contract without that much bidding war. Not just from us. For instance rockets has been throwing money at everything that looks shiny. But they didn't throw on reaves. So seems reaves wanted to stay in Los Angeles

[Seventyniner]

You mean the guy the Lakers said they would match at any price?

And the one who said he's a Laker for life?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuQLL...BiNWFlZA%3D%3D

It's quite possible that he would have turned down 4/100 from the Spurs just to stay with the Lakers. For most players it's only about the money, but not all.

[kobyz]

I'm not sure how many times people have to tell you Austin Reaves was always going to stay a Laker.

So why not make Lakers pay him more and hurt a rival team for the future?

[Mr. Body]

So why not make Lakers pay him more and hurt a rival team for the future?

Go play army men somewhere else.

[ismael-robert]

Well there something credible...of course he gets to play with 2 greats...when they break down n go back to lottery let's see if it still shines...by then we'll likely have another plan

[kobyz]

Go play army men somewhere else.

Lakers thank you

[Extra Stout]

Reaves seems to have signed the contract without that much bidding war. Not just from us. For instance rockets has been throwing money at everything that looks shiny. But they didn't throw on reaves. So seems reaves wanted to stay in Los Angeles

It was discussed in the forum that Reaves apparently cheaped out when he hired an agent, going with someone who mostly represented scrubs and didn’t have much of a relationship with most teams. This kept him from getting many offers.

[Mr. Body]

It was discussed in the forum that Reaves apparently cheaped out when he hired an agent, going with someone who mostly represented scrubs and didn’t have much of a relationship with most teams. This kept him from getting many offers.

Please explain to the class how an agent can force teams to give an offer to a player when they don't want to. Show up with a .38? Goddamn this is stupid and we're going to have to listen to it all summer.

[mo7888]

It was discussed in the forum that Reaves apparently cheaped out when he hired an agent, going with someone who mostly represented scrubs and didn’t have much of a relationship with most teams. This kept him from getting many offers.

He definitely made a mistake with his agent... there's no doubt about that...

[Extra Stout]

Please explain to the class how an agent can force teams to give an offer to a player when they don't want to. Show up with a .38? Goddamn this is stupid and we're going to have to listen to it all summer.

You either misread what I typed or you’re massively overreacting.

I think it’s entirely reasonable to suggest that one or more teams could have been intrigued by Reaves, and tempted to extend him an offer to see whether the Lakers were bluffing, but were dissuaded because they didn’t want to deal with amateur-hour agents who might pull the rug out from under them and take the Lakers deal anyway.

That doesn’t mean that one of those teams was the Spurs or that they should have tried to sign him.

[mo7888]

You either misread what I typed or you’re massively overreacting.

I think it’s entirely reasonable to suggest that one or more teams could have been intrigued by Reaves, and tempted to extend him an offer to see whether the Lakers were bluffing, but were dissuaded because they didn’t want to deal with amateur-hour agents who might pull the rug out from under them and take the Lakers deal anyway.

That doesn’t mean that one of those teams was the Spurs or that they should have tried to sign him.

Also, if you have a good agent he will have other clients and teams are much more likely to work with them on things like this based on the relationship and how it effects future business. It's like that in most businesses.