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    if i was having a night that required a guy to score 30 and win the game that way, herro by a long shot between the two
    Herro is much better than Reaves.

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    Don't lump me in with that . I only asked the question because the salaries aren't super far apart. I suspect many of the same people screeching for one hate the other.
    My bad I thought you were joking. Honestly I'd rather have Reeves but Hero on this team for the right price would be a nice addition. I do think AR is the more complete player and will turn out to be better though.

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    Don't lump me in with that . I only asked the question because the salaries aren't super far apart. I suspect many of the same people screeching for one hate the other.
    Since we couldn't get Reaves because LA was going to match the better question might be, 'what would you give up for each player'? For Reaves, I'd have given up the Charlotte pick and a couple of 2nd's if LA would have S&T'd him (I'm sure LA wouldn't do that, but thats where I'd have been willing to go). Would you give that for Herro?

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    Since we couldn't get Reaves because LA was going to match the better question might be, 'what would you give up for each player'? For Reaves, I'd have given up the Charlotte pick and a couple of 2nd's if LA would have S&T'd him (I'm sure LA wouldn't do that, but thats where I'd have been willing to go). Would you give that for Herro?
    Honestly I don't know enough about either player to even guess. Like I said I was just trying to get a feel for how the numbers worked out. I trust your evaluations since you guys have all watched more non-spurs ball than I have.

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    Dame's agent telling teams that if He's not on the heat he is going to be an unhappy player.

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    Dame's agent telling teams that if He's not on the heat he is going to be an unhappy player.
    did dame not realize that he was a free agent not too long ago and could have gone anywhere he wanted?

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    did dame not realize that he was a free agent not too long ago and could have gone anywhere he wanted?
    He took one look at Scoot Henderson and said, "Nope."

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    Dame's agent telling teams that if He's not on the heat he is going to be an unhappy player.
    Aw, how terrible.

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    He took one look at Scoot Henderson and said, "Nope."
    Did they not know this would cause problems? Did they not know that they could trade back? Are they capable of drafting a guard over 6'3"?

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    I'm not sure about Miami. Wasn't part of the reason Butler left Philly was because he didn't like playing with Simmons?
    Just figured Spoelstra and Heat culture could mold him in a way only Pop and Spurs culture could. Quite frankly I'd give it a 40% chance he's mentally defeated already.

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    So if roster spots were not at a premium they might ... trade for him just to keep for the expiring? That sounds prohibitively expensive.
    Wasn't taking any contract status into account with that comment. Was just commenting on whether or not he even has value as a player and if there's even a destination that could still resurrect his career. Contract and cap considerations aside.

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    Spurs should offer 16 second round picks and a 1st round pick swap and see what the Blazers have to say.

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    the funny thing is the Blazers are reportedly salty that Miami can't even offer them the package that the Spurs got for Dejounte Murray. Brian Wright was out here hustling

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    If Dejounte Murray is worth four picks Austin Reaves must be worth like eight

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    the funny thing is the Blazers are reportedly salty that Miami can't even offer them the package that the Spurs got for Dejounte Murray. Brian Wright was out here hustling
    He got that deal done SO FAST, and it kind of set this inflated FRP trade market we're in.

    Oh, and Portland needs to recognize that DJ was 25, and on a value deal, not 33 on an awful ing contract. Context is important.

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    This tweet doesn't even make sense. How is Lillard or his agent a party to negotiations? Also, are they going to get together and create assets for Miami out of thin air?

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    Already so loyal to Miami. We'll never see his like again

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    I am CEO of Team Herro, but I still only want him if the cost is the CHA pick. Nothing more. Perfectly keeping our powder dry for the next opportunity that comes around if the price is any higher.

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    This tweet doesn't even make sense. How is Lillard or his agent a party to negotiations? Also, are they going to get together and create assets for Miami out of thin air?
    I thought that Agents and players often get permission to look for deals?

    In this instance I would think that maybe Miami isn't offering their full potential boat and the agent is trying to convince them to deliver all their picks, players, and swaps to get it done

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    I thought that Agents and players often get permission to look for deals?

    In this instance I would think that maybe Miami isn't offering their full potential boat and the agent is trying to convince them to deliver all their picks, players, and swaps to get it done
    Yes, this is what agents do. They don't just sit around and wait for teams to call them and collect a 10% cut of a players earnings for doing very little work. People used to give Drew Rosenhaus for how he came off on TV, but he's a guy who went out and hustled to get his clients more money.

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    At this point let's offer the same paltry offer Miami is offering and try to win Damian on Cronin's spite for Miami.

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    Tbh it sounds like we could get Dame for filler + 2FRPs the way Miami is acting. He’s worth that

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    You do understand that he’s failing at all of that, right? They’ve been shopping him for a year because of that fact. It’s not just to trade him for lillard. He’s been on the block.

    Oh, and he would absolutely fail here, which is why we wouldn’t trade for him.
    He doesn't have any character concerns like Poole or issues with Miami's distractions. He just acts black and has a big .

    He's on the block because he's the only proven asset the Heat have that can be parlayed into a better player that fits Butler's window.

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    I thought that Agents and players often get permission to look for deals?

    In this instance I would think that maybe Miami isn't offering their full potential boat and the agent is trying to convince them to deliver all their picks, players, and swaps to get it done
    Fair enough. So he put his current team over a barrel by announcing the only team he wants to go to, and he puts his new team over a barrel by taking as many resources away from them to get him where he wants to go. If I'm Miami I think I tell them to piss up a rope.

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