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Vegas is wrong and you need to bet the over. This year is going to shock people by how we play and the amount of growth and gelling that happens (barring injury). We WILL make the play-in. Book it.
As for drafting a point guard next year, we definitely won't be bottom 4, but then again there are only a handful of teams hardcore tanking. We could still be like the 8th or 9th worst then you hope to get lucky with the ping pong balls.
Vegas is wrong and you need to bet the over. This year is going to shock people by how we play and the amount of growth and gelling that happens (barring injury). We WILL make the play-in. Book it.
To me, Spurs belong in the bottom 6 of the NBA alongside Pistons, Wizards, Hornets, Blazers and Rockets. I think they will end between 30 and 32 wins.
Spurs have also Raptors 2024 first round pick that is only top 6 protected and they have lost Fred VanVleet and have a rookie coach. It could end up as another top 10 pick for Spurs.
Think that Raptors pick is our best shot at a Top 10 pick. Unless Wemby sits a lot we will win a few games.
I think there are a lot of realistic outcomes. The team is already telegraphing a slow approach for next year to see what we have. In other words they aren't pushing to win. Now, if the young players take a huge leap, that is one thing. But they will limit VW some, and there are enough players with knee injuries that will need rest. 28-34 wins seems reasonable.
that doesnt explain the existence of Tre Jones
he fits very cleanly into the "PG" role without having any other perimeter skills associated with other perimeter players other than PGs. cant defend anything besides other small PGs, isnt an off-ball threat, etc
I don't see it that way. I believe that's really underestimating Wemby's impact to consider he won't basically add anything to a team that could have won 28-30 games last year if not for blatant tanking and sitting players... and I mean his personal impact and the impact his presence will have on the whole team with guys like Devin, Sochan, Keldon who should take the next step next to Victor. He's gonna facilitate a lot fo things for a lot of people... I think they can win 38-40 games without major injuries, and 35 minimum.
Maybe, but I just don’t see where the additional 10 wins are coming for in a (re)loaded West. OKC and Houston are better, MIN is even a tough out. Utah and Sac may take a step back but are the Spurs good enough to be consistently better than them?
I guess it will mostly depend on how dominant Victor will be in his first season. And I believe he will. His first SL game has showered the hype a little but his second game is who he really is fi you ask me, when he's not asked to be Allen Iverson out there and is really focused on BB. And his impact on defense is not to underestimate... Put a 20+pt/12rb/3bl Victor in this team and you can reasonably win 35+ games.
He’s #1 on my list for sure but there are others. People have made the case for Lowry and I get that. A champion & a six time Allstar. People have even suggested Paul and that fine too.
Duncan came into the league with vets David Robinson, Sean Elliott, & Avery Johnson.
Wembanyama is coming into the league with McDermott and (maybe) Bullock.
We’ll see what the Spurs do. I think it’s early September when we’re able to trade the new guys.
Pop not pulling players that are hot as much trying to lose an added emphasis on defense, Sohan progressing on offense to having a pull-up and possibly a three ball, Devin Vassell being healthy is probably an extra 3 to 5 wins alone even if he doesn't take any advancement as a scorer which I think he will. I also think with defenses pointed more at VW, and Vassell we're going to see Keldon's three ball regress a bit to 21-22 season level.
I just don't think he's going to be the rebounder everyone thinks he's going to be.
He constantly looks a bit raw and lackadaisical at it.
I'm going to guess his avg at 8-9 his 1st year.
Tre is a backup. The Spurs have had a bunch of second-string traditional point guards, both young guys and vets. Just not starter-level.
Constantly? How many games of Victor have you watched? Maybe he was getting a sense of SL instead of going all out? He averaged 10.4 rebounds in France.
Toronto’s pick should be good.
The need for a point guard is overblown. We definitely need spacing , cause Wemby would continue to do those wing stuff and it is best that the help defense is far away from him.
I've watched a lot of him over in France. Maybe I'm wrong. That's fine.
That's the way he seems to me.
I think he could have averaged around 14 rebounds over there especially the way his teammates clanked the ball.
Just catching up on this thread… so… we still need a point guard right?
I am the point guard now.
It's not just that all the teams in the west are better, but barring a mid-season course correction due to injury, nobody outside of Portland (after trading Lillard) will be outright tanking. Houston doesn't own its pick. Everybody else thinks they are a contender. Even if the Spurs are better, the record might not necessarily reflect it. There aren't going to be very many gimmes on the schedule.
Also, this draft looks to be hot garbage. I'm not wild about the point guards beyond Isiah Collier and even he has questions about his defense and long range shooting. DJ Wagner looks like an undersized shooting guard who can't hit threes and is not really a point. I do like Elliot Cadeau's game but he's undersized as well. Hopefully someone else emerges. Right now it looks like Collier or bust.
I hope the spurs don’t force the issue and try to draft for fit with any top 10 picks they own. There are needs beyond PG, including more talent at the 3, so no need to waste a pick on a bad PG. I hope they just lean toward the talent over fit.
We need a point guard that doesn’t make us want to vomit.
Eeesh the Raptors have to have the 7th worst record or better?
I could see some serious Raptor tanking if they're out of it in the 2nd half.
Go Raptors!
Raptors new coach looked great in a small sample size:
On 11 January 2022, Rajaković as the interim head coach led the Grizzlies to a 116–108 win over the Golden State Warriors.[13] It was his head coaching debut in NBA.[14] After his fellow Serbian countryman Igor Kokoškov, he is the second European who led an NBA team in a regular season game.[15][16] Rajaković finished his stint as the interim head coach with a 4–1 record.
Pops Pets is going to be needed to be watched closely in the Wama era.
I hope and praying dog pray the FO is not going to continue to put up with it.
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