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    No one is marching on Moscow. No need for Nukes.

    Putin is a proud Man and he loves his people. He won't sacrifice that just to spite his neighbors.


    There is growing local problems in Poland because of the enormous Ukranian influx. Typical stuff you'd imagine. Everyone is ready for the War to end but how? USA shouldn't be at the negotiating table. EU should represent before NATO.
    Noone said anyone is marching on moscow.

    All it takes to light the nuclear fuse is if somehow a place like Crimea is threatened. Where millions of Russians would be in peril then its off to the nuclear fires.

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    Noone said anyone is marching on moscow.

    All it takes to light the nuclear fuse is if somehow a place like Crimea is threatened. Where millions of Russians would be in peril then its off to the nuclear fires.
    Amigo, this is Eastern Euro warfare. Some ers in faraway Crimea are just bigos for tomorrow

    Motherland or nothing

    It's land grabbing and creating a buffer for the next conflict. Going into each other's Capitals is serious.
    Last edited by FrostKing; 09-01-2023 at 08:30 AM.

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    Luka doing Lukan things

    Invites Poland to his wargames




    Also Luka when asked about Poland demqndingbexit of Wagner from Belarus:

    "Sure. No country no Belarus no Poland no Lithuanias should have any foreign soldiers on their territories"

    (Poland has tens of thousands of american soldiers in their land)




    Luka

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    Amigo, this is Eastern Euro warfare. Some ers in faraway Crimea are just bigos for tomorrow

    Motherland or nothing

    It's land grabbing and creating a buffer for the next conflict. Going into each other's Capitals is serious.
    Not what Russia and Russians say.

    Threaten millions of Russian civilians in Crimea and its a nuclear party

    Ce la vi

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    In the East we don't actually want to conquer one another. Just control and manipulate.

    It's too much work to house, fight off uprisings and we don't feel right exterminating a fellow Slav

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    In the East we don't actually want to conquer one another. Just control and manipulate.

    It's too much work to house, fight off uprisings and we don't feel right exterminating a fellow Slav
    Every9ne feels like this.

    But tell that to your governments and their puppet masters the US.

    They clearly say its the best money they ever spent

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    Every9ne feels like this.

    But tell that to your governments and their puppet masters the US.

    They clearly say its the best money they ever spent
    Well I explained earlier why it's in the politicians & churches motive to agree.

    Except for - maybe Russia becomes some untouchable power in 300 years and decides vengeance time. It's sadly no brainer for Polska to take this route. As of now.

    Cost of living has exploded though. But I think rather unavoidable for Polska

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    Well I explained earlier why it's in the politicians & churches motive to agree.

    Except for - maybe Russia becomes some untouchable power in 300 years and decides vengeance time. It's sadly no brainer for Polska to take this route. As of now.

    Cost of living has exploded though. But I think rather unavoidable for Polska
    Yup they got youneconomically by the balls and have nowhere to go. But still. Blindly walking into the meatgrinder is still a dumb choice.

    And when its Pollacks turn to walk into the meatgrinder they most likely will.

    "We who are about to die salute you" - poland to Biden

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    Yup they got youneconomically by the balls and have nowhere to go. But still. Blindly walking into the meatgrinder is still a dumb choice.

    And when its Pollacks turn to walk into the meatgrinder they most likely will.

    "We who are about to die salute you" - poland to Biden
    You are looking at it wrong. In the past Polska was the Ukraine. Now we support Ukraine to keep it off our porch.

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    You are looking at it wrong. In the past Polska was the Ukraine. Now we support Ukraine to keep it off our porch.
    And it all seems to be working out great

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    I'm not anti-Russia. Or have bias against them. Accusing them of being imperialist.

    But bottomline they are situated in the corner and can't go South because of China. Russians have dreams like all of our people.

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    Notice the Polish Eagle also looks and faces West

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    I'm not anti-Russia. Or have bias against them. Accusing them of being imperialist.

    But bottomline they are situated in the corner and can't go South because of China. Russians have dreams like all of our people.
    Only thing that will help is a peace agreement.

    Remember there was one all it needed was signatures. Would have kept ukraine intact and neutral. US said fcuk that.

    More pollacks should be asking for peace tbqh

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    Only thing that will help is a peace agreement.

    Remember there was one all it needed was signatures. Would have kept ukraine intact and neutral. US said fcuk that.

    More pollacks should be asking for peace tbqh
    I think so too. But people making the decisions have bias. They were bullied by Russia in the past and want to teach them a lesson.

    Putting myself in the shoes of someone that feels that way (many) there is no better time than now.

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    I mean I was born behind the Iron Curtain. No one is saying take back Russian land but yah I kinda get let's drain them of their arrogance

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    Make them the last European nation to roll in tanks

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    Noone said anyone is marching on moscow.

    All it takes to light the nuclear fuse is if somehow a place like Crimea is threatened. Where millions of Russians would be in peril then it’s off to the nuclear fires.
    You are dreaming.

    Russia will not risk losing its entire army in Ukraine.
    It’s ON THE TABLE. WE WILL eliminate Russian air and ground forces in all of Ukraine.
    Russia would risk losing control of everything they currently have power over including internally.
    The US would rather this ensuing chaos in Russia NOT occur. We need to have some en y to negotiate with.

    Wake up…

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    I think so too. But people making the decisions have bias. They were bullied by Russia in the past and want to teach them a lesson.

    Putting myself in the shoes of someone that feels that way (many) there is no better time than now.
    Well seems the lesson is being learned by the wrong side so far

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    Even Belarus understands intimately that when a country purposely puts radioactive material in the air that can spread in the air all over Europe it is declaring "we dont give a about anything." dont be an idiot...

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    I mean I was born behind the Iron Curtain. No one is saying take back Russian land but yah I kinda get let's drain them of their arrogance
    Your position and personal experience given on a basketball board is not going to change the mind of someone thoroughly enamored with power via a single ruler.
    Responding to hater really means just showing anyone peaking in on the subject what an idiot he is.

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    OH

    And when hater's personal autocratic rulers get removed he will tell you he never really said he actively rooted for them anyway.
    Hater is a tiny bobber in rough seas of confusion. He goes up, he goes down. Where is he now... toss a coin.

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    Your position and personal experience given on a basketball board is not going to change the mind of someone thoroughly enamored with power via a single ruler.
    Responding to hater really means just showing anyone peaking in on the subject what an idiot he is.
    I like to see both sides. Russia initially had a fair point - NATO unwritten agreement to not expand was broken. I personally believe something of the sort did occur.

    But the 2nd plan of "cleansing old Russian lands of Nazis that are currently mistreating Russian nationals". Convoluted and slippery slope.

    Fast forward and now they are crying outside involvement

    I still respect Putin's career and believe he will agree to a fair resolution but IMO... the West egged him on and he shockingly fell for the trap.

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    An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.

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    An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.
    That's fine but these are Russians not some 3rd World country. I'm sure it came up in discussions within the past 30+ years.

    Frankly Ukraine doesn't need such weapons on its border. Neither does Poland. But for Ukraine debate over NATO today would be EU tomorrow. So get it over with now.

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    An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.
    What about the US and Taiwan?

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