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The coaches have a team full of players. They cannot ignore everyone except Victor. That's not Pop's style, supposedly everyone on the roster gets the same treatment.
Pop has never been afraid to do things differently, even if the results are bad. Intentionally fouling, for example, or sitting the starting lineup in the playoffs.
The coaches have a team full of players. They cannot ignore everyone except Victor. That's not Pop's style, supposedly everyone on the roster gets the same treatment.
I've noticed this, too. Too often he stops his dribble, then surveys....then makes a decision and passes.
Obviously he is still learning and it is hard to make good, smart decisions on the fly...but it definitely just bogs down the offense because everyone just kinda stops to see what he is going to do which gives the defense time to catch up. At that point, all the good options are gone.
Pop’s objectively wrong if he puts the development of role players above or at the same level even as our generational talent.
Tyronn is just trolling or, at least, being misinterpreted.
Pop "giving everyone the same treatment" refers to how he could yell at Tim or Tony or Manu, so guys like Finley or Barry or Horry knew they had to take it as well.
Nobody in their right mind believes that Tim didn't have a huge influence on decisions on and off the floor. If Tim said "give me the ball", Pop would do it. And he will probably do the same for Victor when he is ready. He wouldn't do the same if someone like Collins or Bassey demanded it.
I mean, I get it sopmewhat dude -- but, it seems like a fruitless endeavor if it's directly going to affect Wemby's confidence and growth. Which at this point it feels like it definitely is, to me. How do you feel about Sochan's direct/indirect influence on Wemby's looks/touches when he (Jeremy) is playing PG? Tre Jones isn't even that great honestly but the offense actually flows when he's in, it feels like a normal NBA basketball game. It's the eye test only but I'm sure more advanced stats back this up.
I've been pretty vocal that Sochan is making things worse, not better.
It's going to be difficult for Wemby to learn the fundamentals when he doesn't have an actual point guard and nobody else knows how to play around him. It hurts his development, and we are reaching the point where I believe it is hurting Sochan's development, too. Instead of honing abilities that play to his skill set, he is being forced to shove a square peg in a round hole.
I didn't expect things to click on day one, but I'm ready to pull the plug on Sochan at PG as soon as possible. Tre Jones coming off the bench doesn't do us much good if our starting lineup is consistently putting us in 10-20 point holes.
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So lemme follow up with this: if Pop refuses to pull the plug as we believe he should, how bad is the damage to Wemby?
I just keep thinking of the arrogance of PATFO and it’s frustrating. They really thought we didn’t need a PG or vets. It’s just hard to accept that. The price of Lillard was too high. Ok I can accept that. Jrue Holliday as well. Ok I can accept that.
But the problem with this team is they’re so damn young. And I keep hearing oh they need to learn how to do win and learn how to play PG and learn how to do such and such. But what they really need to learn from vets are how to be pros. And that’s something you don’t learn from coaches. You learn from 10+ year players. And for some reason Pop believed he could teach EVERYTHING to his team by himself. When logically he couldn’t.
CP3 was perfect for the team. He was cheap to acquire. He was a one year player so it didn’t tie any future money. He could maybe teach Sochan how to play PG if that really is the future goal. He could run the offense. He could set up Wemby. And he could show the team how to be pros. Bc this team isn’t going to magically learn to win like Spurstalk believes. You need players who are professionals, who have been through the fire, who know the craft, and who will hold the team accountable since the old man apparently isn’t.
I don't even mind the not signing vets part tbh. But Pop is basically 2022-2023 Stephen Silas in that there's no discernible improvement/development happening right now and the young guys are being done zero favors.
I don't expect them to win 35+ games but to look this absolutely terrible in every facet of the game is inxecusable.
The real scary thing is that Silas was fired after last season while the old man just got another 5 years. Smh.
I am generally a "Sniffer", but I 100% agree with this. It's absurd.
Could cost him ROY. Chet and the Thunder are playing great, meanwhile Wemby's shooting percentage is falling because he is trying to do it all by himself, and the Spurs look destined for another top-5 pick.
Pop was doing that to win, not to develop Tim. Tim was already "baked in the oven" according to Pop and according to his performances. Victor has some amazing abilities but they come with the caveat "for his size". He has to learn to take advantage of his size. If he's going to dribble into a 3, he might as well be 6'7.
I know he's been put in a position to fail, but he also typifies everything wrong with this organization. No standout physical trait or skill and soft (easily bullied/put under the rim by like-sized Barnes and S bag and fronting George, who lacks their strength), but at least he fits their narrow minded description of "character".
They need to start targeting specifics and stop ignoring analytics and common sense. They're not miracle workers; there is no magic pixie dust.
If a player is inefficient and lacks the aforementioned standouts attributes, that's unlikely to ever change. The same archetypes (of which he's one) keep busting and they just keep picking them.
The Sochan at point guard experiment is so mindless. It’s as though Pop couldn’t figure out how to resolve the logjam at forward, and so that was his solution not to have to send either Johnson or Sochan to the bench.
It completely destroys the team. No spacing. No plays. No easy baskets. They may talk a good game and try to stay positive, but this is destroying the team. Nobody is developing. Nobody is getting a feel for anybody else. If they stick with this, they’ll throw away a whole year still not knowing what they have in Wembanyama.
I totally expect Pop to run this experiment until the season is over. His ego is just too big to admit that he‘s wrong.
The priority this season was supposed to be to develop Victor Wembanyama. It was supposed to be to figure out how to use him best in the NBA. He is a unicorn, a once-in-a-generation windfall for any franchise.
And they’re ing it up. Popovich is ing it up with this Sochan experiment. Sochan is not a once-in-a-generation talent. Ultimately if he doesn’t fit he is expendable. Don’t throw good money after bad. You don’t frustrate your potential superstar with some harebrained scheme to get around the fact that the pieces at forward don’t all fit.
Frankly the odd man out should be, and always should have been, Keldon Johnson. He’s a 6th year player. We know what he is. Part of what he is is bad defense. But he’s a “vocal leader”? Does his leadership look effective to anybody? Does this team look inspired? Does it look like it’s rallying around anything? How much worse can they play? They lose by 25 to a sub-.500 team and the coach lauds their “effort.”
Or hey, if they decide they just love KJ too much to part with him, then move Sochan. Give him a chance to succeed somewhere.
This experiment is not necessary. Tre Jones is not the only point guard on the roster. DEVONTE’ GRAHAM CAN PLAY POINT GUARD. He put up 18 and 8 just a few years ago. I’m not saying he’s great. But he is at least serviceable. He can get the team into sets.
This Sochan thing is just Pop — who preaches “humility” and “getting over oneself” — sniffing his own farts and outsmarting himself. You know what? Wembanyama is more important than Pop to the future of this franchise. If Pop is standing in the way of his development, then ownership has a responsibility to Tom Landry his ass.
The only one working hard next to Wemby is Johnson. He also looks to be Wemby's #1 fan too. I say keep him!
Man, if Wemby misses ROTY, I will be so pissed. I cant even imagine how mych that would sting him. ��
So we can win 30 games, and pick in the back half of the lottery? That’s what all of your piss and vinegar is about? 30 games?
Maybe some fans don’t like being the worst defense in the league. Maybe some fans don’t like having the worst point differential in the league. Nobody was expecting championship but we are expecting fight from the team. A step in the right direction or at the very least a path to the right direction. And I doubt even you, as gun ho as you are about this Sochan experiment, will say this is a step in the right direction for developing this team going forward. Bc in your heart of hearts, you don’t see Sochan as our PG for the next decade.
All I wanted was to do right by Wemby now that he is on the team. Surround him with proper vets, get a PG who can run the show, and show this young ass team who doesn’t know how to wipe their ass what professionalism really is. Bc the truth is that when the game starts to go south, this team folds, and it’s bc nobody knows what the to do in order to win games.
OKC tanked for a few years, and it seems to have worked out for them. This is literally our last chance for a high draft pick for a good while. We should grab the final brass ring in order to draft Wemby’s #2. I can guarantee you we’re not too likely to find him in the back half of the lottery. Not impossible, but much better odds in the top 5.
*checks box score, sees Tre got three steals*
JEREMY DOESNT GET STEALS HE SUCKS HES THE REASIN THE SPURS CANT COMPEET FUK SOCHAN TRADE HIM.
You're going to be singing the exact same tune next season when the team is dog again
I’m taking 2013 Game 6 Turnobili over this selfish piece of
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