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  1. #876
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    Also I think UT would consider it absolutely vital playing a top team out of conference and Alabama would say to with that stuff anymore. Even though Alabama got a gift from Auburn and UT maybe from KState and Houston. But FSU had a squeaker with Boston College and Georgia had some very close games as well but not as close as the aforementioned.

    Very messy. But fun.
    Yeah, keep in mind Auburn got crushed the week before... by New Mexico State... at home.

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    Doesn't matter. They did what they were supposed to do. Why don't the rules apply to SEC teams? Alabama lost. Alabama ed over Georgia. Any other conference, everyone would say happens and move on. Not precious SEC because ESPN has a stake in propping the conference up.
    I just don't think FSU from these recent past two games is not a top 4 team, you can't tell me this team right now without Travis can hang with Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. Game would not even be close. But like I said, with how this years committee has been, FSU is in due to them using "deserving" mindset and not "best".

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    Agree but still...

    Jack Plummer is 13/34, 98 YRDS, 2.9 AVG, 0 TD, 1 INT.
    With all due respect, FSUs D contributed to that line.

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    I just don't think FSU from these recent past two games is not a top 4 team, you can't tell me this team right now without Travis can hang with Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. Game would not even be close. But like I said, with how this years committee has been, FSU is in due to them using "deserving" mindset and not "best".
    Then Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia should be the teams. You'd fit right in with the committee.

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    How this years committee has been FSU is in eventhough its obvious they're not a top 4 team. At this point I say it, let FSU in and have them be throttled by 50 in semis to show how bad 4 team format really was.
    You are more likely to have beatdowns the more teams you put in.
    Even with byes.

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    Then Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia should be the teams. You'd fit right in with the committee.
    Not really, because I wouldn't have had Oregon and Ohio State in front of UT and Bama. Plus Georgia just lost my man.

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    And now Mike Norvell




    Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

    Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him 😂 . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

    Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

    Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.


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    The two team system would have worked this year Imo.

    Michigan v Washington

    done, hand me the washcloth…

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    Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

    Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him  . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

    Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

    Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

    Florida Clemson and Miami?
    The last two years? Just stick with LSU.
    Please.

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    Not really, because I wouldn't have had Oregon and Ohio State in front of UT and Bama. Plus Georgia just lost my man.
    But by your rationale, it's about who's the best, not who deserves it. So a one-loss Georgia team is better than everyone on the list. , Georgia with two losses is better than undefeated FSU with an injured QB

    Either FSU deserves it based on what happened, or Georgia deserves it because they're better and everyone knows it.

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    But they aren't as good as Texas, Alabama, Washington and Michigan. Without Travis they can't beat any of those teams
    One of the main Selection Committee members claims that they will be looking for the "best 4 teams in order, nothing else."

    Then Georgia should be there too. They just barely lost, and they would beat all the other teams.
    Kirby Smart, altho politicking take the message and not the messenger:
    He said tell me which other 4 teams 4 are better then GA.
    Well he sure as can't say Alabama.

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    Bobby Bowden
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    And now Mike Norvell




    Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

    Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him  . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

    Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

    Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

    u & ur kind wanted mike fired after jackson state........

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    And now Mike Norvell




    Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

    Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him �� . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

    Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

    Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

    So glad Jimbo and his filthy program are gone. It'll be nice to root for the Noles again.

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    There will be a 1 loss team in.
    Don't have to jump FL State.

    Only 3 unbeatens left.

    Let the storm begin.
    So my thinking may be way off here but if being undefeated outweighs (current) quality of play then Florida State has to be #3, ahead of Texas and Alabama. However, if we're saying the being undefeated doesn't outweigh quality of play, then how could only Texas or Alabama jump Florida State and not both teams jump Florida State. Because Texas and Alabama look way better and more balanced than Florida State right now, so either both teams jump Florida State or neither team does. This is obviously only my opinion.

    The two team system would have worked this year Imo.

    Michigan v Washington

    done, hand me the washcloth…
    Totally Agree. It would be less heartache to be honest.

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    Florida Clemson and Miami?
    The last two years? Just stick with LSU.
    Please.
    Rivalries games always difficult. Those Miami guys check out til they face us. 2 Gators were ejected last game they were willing to do anything to spoil our season.

    I think we were only the 2nd team to win @ Clemson since 2016 season

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    So glad Jimbo and his filthy program are gone. It'll be nice to root for the Noles again.

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    Rivalries games always difficult. Those Miami guys check out til they face us. 2 Gators were ejected last game they were willing to do anything to spoil our season.

    I think we were only the 2nd team to win @ Clemson since 2016 season
    If FSU QB is healthy they might be #1 TBH. Regardless, I have them in my top 4 like I said they should be if they won tonight (no matter how they looked).

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    If we take all metrics into consideration, it will be Texas, FSU, Washington and Michigan...but I have a feeling it won't work out that way

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    If we take all metrics into consideration, it will be Texas, FSU, Washington and Michigan...but I have a feeling it won't work out that way
    if it works out the way u think it will would u be ok with texas canceling the um/osu series...........

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    But by your rationale, it's about who's the best, not who deserves it. So a one-loss Georgia team is better than everyone on the list. , Georgia with two losses is better than undefeated FSU with an injured QB

    Either FSU deserves it based on what happened, or Georgia deserves it because they're better and everyone knows it.
    I get why you're using Georgia for your argument to prove your point. But I've said numerous times, I think FSU is in I just don't think this current FSU team is better than Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. But I get what you're getting at and I appreciate the convo. This is why college football imo will always be better than NFL

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    So my thinking may be way off here but if being undefeated outweighs quality of play then Florida State has to be #3, ahead of Texas and Alabama. However, if we're saying the being undefeated doesn't outweigh quality of play, then how could only Texas or Alabama jump Florida State and not both teams jump Florida State. Because Texas and Alabama look way better and more balanced than Florida State right now, so either both teams jump Florida State or neither team does. This is obviously only my opinion.



    Totally Agree. It would be less heartache to be honest.
    And by that rationale, Ohio State and Georgia jump FSU. Because late losses have to matter less than an injured quarterback.

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    I get why you're using Georgia for your argument to prove your point. But I've said numerous times, I think FSU is in I just don't think this current FSU team is better than Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. But I get what you're getting at and I appreciate the convo. This is why college football imo will always be better than NFL
    And I don't think FSU getting blown out means the committee shouldn't have put them in. I appreciate the conversation as well, but I hate that they make it subjective, because that always gives them a chance to push, in order, the SEC, Ohio State/Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas/OU, the PAC 12 over everyone else. As with everything else, it's a huge scam and a money grab.

  23. #898
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    IMHO
    The two SEC teams are the 1 and 1A
    Bama
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    And the rest
    If FSU QB did not break leg they move above UT and Washington

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    if it works out the way u think it will would u be ok with texas canceling the um/osu series...........
    Texas won their conference and beat the SEC champion on their own field by double digits. All the other teams are undefeated. This is the kind of criteria the BCS claims to go by. I'm not saying they are the 4 best teams, but if we are sticking with the formula those are the teams that should get in

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    Yeah, keep in mind Auburn got crushed the week before... by New Mexico State... at home.
    You said this and I had to go look it up. I thought you were joking.

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