*** Official Israel vs Hamas war #13783478343 thread ***

[Winehole23]

You do know Israel censors the news, don't you?

[Winehole23]

In your on head and never in any meaningful ins ution. full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

this is a meaningless reply, tbh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

this is a meaningless reply, tbh

it calls it's own.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You do know Israel censors the news, don't you?

So?

[Winehole23]

You are aware of what Netanyahu did to Obama when he invited him and the Palestinians to a Peace conference embarrassing the out of him right?

I heard about that. I'm wasn't surprised, but I don't have a grudge about that. Netanyahu's whole deal is avoiding diplomacy and political solutions, Obama never had a chance. Netanyahu is lucky he has Biden now.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I heard about that. I'm wasn't surprised, but I don't have a grudge about that. Netanyahu's whole deal is avoiding diplomacy and political solutions, Obama never had a chance. Netanyahu is lucky he has Biden now.

I can see why you might think that but I was not pointing fingers at anyone in particular.

[Winehole23]

So?

so, the cabinet minutes you're relying on for intent will probably never be made public.

[Winehole23]

I can see why you might think that but I was not pointing fingers at anyone in particular.

Just more handwaving. Gotcha.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

so, the cabinet minutes you're relying on for intent will probably never be made public.

I would hope that if there was a general somewhere trying to maximize Palestinian casualties or similar genocidal action that someone in that chain of command and execution would come forward like we did with Abu Gharib. But again, that isn't happening.

[Winehole23]

it calls it's own.

Mass civilian death, displacement and suffering aren't meaningless just because you say so. Jews certainly don't think so about their own history, despite the fact that everything done to them during the Shoah was according to law.

[Winehole23]

I would hope that if there was a general somewhere trying to maximize Palestinian casualties or similar genocidal action that someone in that chain of command and execution would come forward like we did with Abu Gharib. But again, that isn't happening.

so, you just assume it to be lawful and just without proof of any kind.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

so, you just assume it to be lawful and just without proof of any kind.

Innocence until proven guilty. Crazy right?

[Winehole23]

Sure but that argument puts the burden of proof on you. And again if you want to make a tremendous claim then you need to provide tremendous proof.

The proof is already on the ground. Israel is wrecking Gaza indiscriminately, and punishing civilians collectively. Has been for about 15 years beforehand, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Innocence until proven guilty. Crazy right?

in a court of law. war isn't a court of law.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

the proof is already on the ground. Israel is wrecking Gaza indiscriminately, and punishing civilians collectively. Has been for about 15 years beforehand, tbh.

No desire to argue this same train again. I have had enough repeat today.

[Winehole23]

No desire to argue this same train again. I have had enough repeat today.

I see your white flag. You give up.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

in a court of law. war isn't a court of law.

I thought we were arguing what was or was not genocide. The higher the crime the higher the standard of proof for real conviction.

[Winehole23]

I thought we were arguing what was or was not genocide. The higher the crime the higher the standard of proof for real conviction.

we're already there. your bias blinds you.

[Winehole23]

I thought you were done. Are you rallying how?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I see your white flag. You give up.

You too, eh?

[Winehole23]

You too, eh?

no, I'm cool to continue, if you want to keep digging the hole you're in.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

no, I'm cool to continue, if you want to keep digging the hole you're in.

If you want to feel you are winning something over on me that is okay if a bit scientology style creepy.

[Winehole23]

If you want to feel you are winning something over on me that is okay if a bit scientology style creepy.

I don't think I'm winning, but you're definitely losing. Your sauce is notably weak.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't think I'm winning, but you're definitely losing. Your sauce is notably weak.

I got what I wanted nonetheless.

[Winehole23]

You have a gift for cant and pseudologic. I think you should keep using it.