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Getting Murray back is simply the night is ending and you’re desperate to not go home alone, desperate for that ROY as if it’s the most important thing
I was figuring that in. I'm rusty on my CBA knowledge but remember cap hold used to be 150% of previous year salary but could swear there are situations it can go to 200%. Even if it has moved to 200% that only chops a couple million off their capspace though.
Getting Murray back is simply the night is ending and you’re desperate to not go home alone, desperate for that ROY as if it’s the most important thing
Maybe not but the Spurs can easily destroy that Knicks offer without giving up either the 25 pick, the 26 swap, or even Keldon.
Disagree. He's on a great contract and looks to be available for pennies on the dollar.Getting Murray back is simply the night is ending and you’re desperate to not go home alone, desperate for that ROY as if it’s the most important thing
his cap hold will be 13mil per spotrac
how deep is that 2025 draft though? I don't know much about it, aside from there being a lot of hype about that class and multiple firsts might help us to trade up
i dont know either tbh. but all the hype is about flagg. doesnt seem like the type of pick anybody is trading down from. but you're going to have to give the hawks something in the short term. they already figure to have a solid 2024 pick
Damn the CBA really must have changed a lot the last 3-4 years. I was thinking a $6 million to $9 million hold since he's making around ~$4.5 million.
give them the worst of the 25 Hawks, CHI and Spurs pick
There is another kid, AJ Dybantsa, who is supposed to be up there with Flagg and Boozer. I think he is in the 2026 draft though, one site I saw even had him ahead of Boozer.
Pop must be confused AF, he's been calling Champagnie "Dejounte" for two years now tbh
If Hawks GM do that for less than getting all his picks and swaps back
Hard pass on sending their unprotected picks back to them. Those are incredibly valuable with that team changing course/rebuilding now and Flagg and Boozer in the mix.
Go shop elsewhere Atlanta.
This is more like it. Vassell or Sochan and one unprotected pick of Spurs 24 or Hawks 25 or Spurs 25 and if Sochan then pick swap with Atlanta back also. You do the deal? The deal has to hurt a little and if it doesn't then no trade.LOL @ that Hawks forum someone posted. They thing we should give them all their picks back and the swap should go the other way. Basically, that we should pay them for letting them have Murray for 2 years
Nothing to this point has moved me off of my original thoughts at an offer:
SA '27 FRP (Unprotected)
CHI Pick
Anyone who isn't Wemby, Devin, Keldon, Tre.
If they want Sochan, downgrade the CHI pick to the CHA pick plus two more SRPs.
I also thought about making the '27 pick the lesser of SA or ATL, but I think ATL needs a little bit of upside and I'm definitely not offering them the best of the two. I also am betting that we'll be good by 2027.
I mean, almost by definition it’s going to be the case. They did not get the value they paid, and are selling at a loss.If Hawks GM do that for less than getting all his picks and swaps back
Not sure why Tre would be off limits if we are trading for a primary point guard. I doubt the Hawks would really want him either.
This forum has shown no ability to exercise patience but I agree with you. I’m not opposed to Murray returning but it needs to make sense. Even a little overpaying is fine. He’s a built in fit. But we can’t get stupid.
New Big Three:
Dejounte ——- Tony
Vassell ———— Manu
Wemby ———- Timmy
Surround These Three With 3 And D Players And It’s Over For The League
Will Be Posting This Way Until He’s Traded Here For Good LuckWhy Are You Typing Like This?
Atlanta doesn't have the leverage to extract anywhere near that much and you have the Spurs bidding against themselves
Actually, he had trouble synching with Jakob, because Jak was the one that wanted bounce passes, while DJ was better at lobs.
That's what you hope for to rip them off.
But the GM has to try to keep his job after that. Spurs should be ruthless
ATL will definitely be selling DJM at a loss. Trading him back to the Spurs is tough because it will be extremely obvious how much of a loss it will be. At least trading to another team for a different mix of assets (players + picks) you at least give the homer fans some opportunity to argue that the team came out ahead (even when they didn't).
Even if they did DJM for Sochan, Branham and the CHI pick might be an easier pill to swallow for ATL fans than 1 unprotected FRP and 1 protected. Optics are going to have to matter to some degree for the Hawks.
Yes I want to win the trade. If that Knicks rumor is true there is no good market for Murray and they're bent completely over the table right now.
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