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    He’s already signed an extension for 4 years, starting at $25M and increasing to $31.6M the last year. He’s totally worth that money.

    I didn't realize that Atlanta already gave him his extension. Still, I would rather keep the cap flexibility over spending on a guy that doesn't really raise the team's ceiling much.

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    Osman , Doug, Branham, and Keldon. Arguably 4 of the 10 worst defenders in basketball in one lineup

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    Why is this thread so active? Dejounte isn't even close to talented enough to put up with the bull and drama he would bring and the money he would demand.
    Maybe Because People Are Free To Talk About Whatever The They Want Tbh.

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    I didn't realize that Atlanta already gave him his extension. Still, I would rather keep the cap flexibility over spending on a guy that doesn't really raise the team's ceiling much.
    We have no cap flexibility after this summer, and that isn’t even a max slot. I’d rather get DJ than sell cap room for second rounders one last time. Any competent PG raises our ceiling.

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    Duren just ran Barlow over

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    We have no cap flexibility after this summer, and that isn’t even a max slot. I’d rather get DJ than sell cap room for second rounders one last time. Any competent PG raises our ceiling.
    Sure, but why not use the cap space on a guy that could raise our ceiling more than DeJounte?

    PG is the most pressing need, but it isn't the only need (3-and-D wing defender is another) that the team needs. They'll have picks and cap space to try and find a better long-term fit at PG.

    Everyone in the fanbase is extremely impatient, yes, I know this season has been dog , and willing to buy on a guy that previously did want to be here. Remember, the Spurs sold high on DeJounte partly because he didn't want to sign another extension with the Spurs.

    No point in bringing back a possible malcontent.
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    Sure, but why not use the cap space on a guy that could raise our ceiling more than DeJounte?

    PG is the most pressing need, but it isn't the only need (3-and-D
    wing defender is another) that the team needs. They'll have picks and cap space to try and find a better long-term fit at PG.


    Everyone in the fanbase is extremely impatient, yes, I know this season has been dog , and willing to buy on a guy that previously did want to be here. Remember, the Spurs sold high on DeJounte partly because he didn't want to sign another extension with the Spurs.

    No point in bringing back a possible malcontent.
    Exstatic Just Said There Will Be No Player Attainable With The Cap Space They Have Left. So You Want To Sit On It For The Sake Of Sitting On It.

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    Sure, but why not use the cap space on a guy that could raise our ceiling more than DeJounte?

    PG is the most pressing need, but it isn't the only need (3-and-D wing defender is another) that the team needs. They'll have picks and cap space to try and find a better long-term fit at PG.

    Everyone in the fanbase is extremely impatient, yes, I know this season has been dog , and willing to buy on a guy that previously did want to be here. Remember, the Spurs sold high on DeJounte partly because he didn't want to sign another extension with the Spurs.

    No point in bringing back a possible malcontent.
    Who? Who raises our ceiling more than DJ, AND WILL SIGN HERE?

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    Maybe Because People Are Free To Talk About Whatever The They Want Tbh.
    You Don't Say. Maybe That's Also Why I Wrote What I Wrote, Tbh.

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    Exstatic Just Said There Will Be No Player Attainable With The Cap Space They Have Left. So You Want To Sit On It For The Sake Of Sitting On It.
    They can easily move Keldon's deal to create more space, but I'm more against reacquiring DeJounte then anything. He clearly wanted to go to a bigger market with more (possible exposure), neither of which the Spurs were/are going to provide.

    And you mean that there isn't a better player than DeJounte available with the remaining cap space.

    Many of you are building this 'reunion' up to eventually be disappointed. I'll be glad if/when it doesn't happen and Pop continues to start Tre Jones.

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    Sure, but why not use the cap space on a guy that could raise our ceiling more than DeJounte?

    PG is the most pressing need, but it isn't the only need (3-and-D wing defender is another) that the team needs.
    Anunoby will re-up with New York and Quickley is restricted so that kills free agency for this team unless you have a hard-on for Malik Monk. Think I'd much rather have Dejounte than him.

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    He’s already signed an extension for 4 years, starting at $25M and increasing to $31.6M the last year. He’s totally worth that money.
    15% trade kicker to be factored in

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    Who? Who raises our ceiling more than DJ, AND WILL SIGN HERE?
    I'm not scouring the future free-agency market to find out, sorry. We've already seen where having DeJounte as top 2 player on a team gets you (jn the play-in tournament). Both in San Antonio and Atlanta.

    I get that people want immediate improvement, which DeJounte can provide, but I'd rather continue to build through the draft and try to package Keldon + future 1st round pick down the road.

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    Anunoby will re-up with New York and Quickley is restricted so that kills free agency for this team unless you have a hard-on for Malik Monk. Think I'd much rather have Dejounte than him.
    monk or dejounte is a legit question mark for our team as far as fit, but dejounte is a bird in the hand. not like spurs are the only team that will be pursuing monk. but if you trade for dejounte, he's all yours

    murray also has a longer track record of being a good player. he does need to go back to trying hard on defense.

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    They can easily move Keldon's deal to create more space, but I'm more against reacquiring DeJounte then anything. He clearly wanted to go to a bigger market with more (possible exposure), neither of which the Spurs were/are going to provide.

    And you mean that there isn't a better player than DeJounte available with the remaining cap space.

    Many of you are building this 'reunion' up to eventually be disappointed. I'll be glad if/when it doesn't happen and Pop continues to start Tre Jones.
    OK, so you think there is a team that wants Keldon, and can absorb him into cap space. We’ll stipulate that.

    WHO IS BETTER THAN DJ, AND WILL SIGN HERE? Still waiting on an answer to that.

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    They can easily move Keldon's deal to create more space, but I'm more against reacquiring DeJounte then anything. He clearly wanted to go to a bigger market with more (possible exposure), neither of which the Spurs were/are going to provide.

    And you mean that there isn't a better player than DeJounte available with the remaining cap space.

    Many of you are building this 'reunion' up to eventually be disappointed. I'll be glad if/when it doesn't happen and Pop continues to start Tre Jones.
    Your Plan Is To Be Five Years Away From Being Five Years Away. That’s No Plan. That’s A Prayer.

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    OK, so you think there is a team that wants Keldon, and can absorb him into cap space. We’ll stipulate that.

    WHO IS BETTER THAN DJ, AND WILL SIGN HERE? Still waiting on an answer to that.
    austin reaves tbh

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    Who? Who raises our ceiling more than DJ, AND WILL SIGN HERE?
    It isn't as simple as "who's available now that's better than Dejounte?", the question is "who could be available in the next 4 years and we wouldn't be able to sign becuase of the DJ contract?".

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    Anunoby will re-up with New York and Quickley is restricted so that kills free agency for this team unless you have a hard-on for Malik Monk. Think I'd much rather have Dejounte than him.
    Why give up assets and cap space for a guy that doesn't raise the team's ceiling beyond the play - in tournament (contention)?

    Are we that desperate to bring back a possible malcontent that is only two years away from 30?

    What happened to 'findjng talent that fits Victor's timeline' yadda, yadda, yadda? I guess the fans aren't ready to take their lumps (short or long - term) and that overly nervous that Victor will eventually bail.

    I'm here (as a fan of the Spurs) win or lose, but bring back DeJounte is hitting the panic button, IMO. I might be wrong, he comes back and the team takes off (not likely) but I highly doubt it.

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    I'm not scouring the future free-agency market to find out, sorry.
    Then it's pretty stupid to say you want to save capspace for this FA class

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    Your Plan Is To Be Five Years Away From Being Five Years Away. That’s No Plan. That’s A Prayer.
    I don't have a 'plan.' LOL

    I'm a passive observer just like you and everyone else on ST.

    The team needs to be shrewd and calculated with how they build this team. Unfortunately, they waited too long to begin their 'tank' and don't have high - end prospects around Wemby. (Not that that guarantees success since Detroit has many more top 10 picks on their roster, yet are the worst team in the league.)

    Again, being bad success and not having (or playing) a 2nd PG is/was very dumb, short sighted by Pop/the front-office.

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    Players Who Will Earn More Per Year Than Murray:
    Barrett
    Wiggins
    Herro
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    Jerami Grant

    Players Who Will Be Earning Around What Dejounte Is Earning
    Draymond Green
    Vassell
    Jaden McDaniels

    Murray Is Arguably Better Than Most Of These Players And At Worst On The Same Level As Them. His Contract Is A Bargain And People Are Letting Their Feelings Blind Them From Being Sold On The Spurs Getting A Good Player.

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    Why give up assets and cap space for a guy that doesn't raise the team's ceiling beyond the play - in tournament (contention)?

    Are we that desperate to bring back a possible malcontent that is only two years away from 30?

    What happened to 'findjng talent that fits Victor's timeline' yadda, yadda, yadda? I guess the fans aren't ready to take their lumps (short or long - term) and that overly nervous that Victor will eventually bail.

    I'm here (as a fan of the Spurs) win or lose, but bring back DeJounte is hitting the panic button, IMO. I might be wrong, he comes back and the team takes off (not likely) but I highly doubt it.
    Murray fits Victor's timeline fine. That's ridiculous to think this team should be a bunch of 20 year olds. Would have a young above average starting point guard locked up so they could focus on getting a SF with their picks and Murray wouldn't cost the Spurs their truly valuable assets (the 25 picks and the 26 swap). LOL let's not bring a guy in who could elevate this team from ~15 wins to the play in?

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    Then it's pretty stupid to say you want to save capspace for this FA class
    Never said specifically for this class, friend.

    I said future cap flexibility, but thanks for being so pedantic and uptight over a differing opinon.

    Let me know when you, Exstatic, and DeJounte will be acquiring those front-office jobs.

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    I don't have a 'plan.' LOL

    I'm a passive observer just like you and everyone else on ST.

    The team needs to be shrewd and calculated with how they build this team. Unfortunately, they waited too long to begin their 'tank' and don't have high - end prospects around Wemby. (Not that that guarantees success since Detroit has many more top 10 picks on their roster, yet are the worst team in the league.)

    Again, being bad success and not having (or playing) a 2nd PG is/was very dumb, short sighted by Pop/the front-office.
    Preferred Plan. Approach. Strategy. What You’d Like The Spurs To Do. It’s Like I Said Earlier In This Thread. It’s A Bad Plan For The Spurs To Pray For Their Draft Picks To Become Foundation Pieces Without Surrounding Them With Vets Like Murray Who Will Support Their Development.

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