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    Nope. Putin made nazi up as an excuse to invade. You're a rube that believes him.
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    Yes you are. Never change.

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    Not really the same thing. Ukraine still controls 85% of its land and is still sovereign -- it can keep that with a negotiated settlement. Is that what happened to Poland in 1939?
    You're either hopelessly naive or hopelessly biased.

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    It's simply not the same.

    Hitler didn't lose hundred of thousands of troops taking the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia didn't already receive hundreds of billions of dollars in aid at the time. We're simply reaching the limits of what is possible for Ukraine... and for that matter, we're reaching the limits of what is possible for Russia as well.
    Nah, you've just imposed your own limits.

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    The message from Putin was clear. He wants a negotiated agreement and we should all want this. Ukraine has no prospect of taking back all its territory by force. Nor can it really begin the rebuilding process until the fighting stops. Given the resistance to mobilization in Ukraine, it's obvious that even many Ukrainians don't see the point of this continuing.
    We should all want a negotiated agreement with Putin?
    Putin does NOT negotiate while he is in a position of power.
    He invaded Ukraine, he is determined that he will take Ukraine.

    This is what you want negotiated, and what we ALL want negotiated...?
    We wont go down this road again. Putin negotiates when he is hung out by his testicles.
    Like when he finally started negotiating the Start Treaties because the Russian economy was in ruins spending so much money on military affairs when all the country could really give the rest of the world was oil and war. For now he has chosen war.

    So be it, he will get what he wants. It shall be war.

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    Oh my God?

    PUTIN confirmed this?
    The same guy who stashed tanks and troops on the border with Ukraine and said he was NOT planning an invasion.
    Why what a surprise!

    Damn hater thinks hes got the goods again while stepping into pooped out by a source who find what Putin reveals news?

    Here hater.
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    Meanwhile in the United States of America:




    Biden is such a dumb old racist pedo mother er

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    We should all want a negotiated agreement with Putin?
    Putin does NOT negotiate while he is in a position of power.
    He invaded Ukraine, he is determined that he will take Ukraine.

    This is what you want negotiated, and what we ALL want negotiated...?
    We wont go down this road again. Putin negotiates when he is hung out by his testicles.
    Like when he finally started negotiating the Start Treaties because the Russian economy was in ruins spending so much money on military affairs when all the country could really give the rest of the world was oil and war. For now he has chosen war.

    So be it, he will get what he wants. It shall be war.
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    The party of war mongers everyone! LMAO Peace, love, and tolerance.

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    Did he show the papers with the signatures?

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    lololol

    hater cheering on the lying liar Olympics!

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    Nah, you've just imposed your own limits.
    I don't see a breakthrough coming for either side based on how things are going. What are you seeing that gives you such confidence?

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    Did Ukraine ask Russia to invade them? Why should Ukraine have to give up 15% of their land if they don't want to?

    Would you roll over this way too if Putin wanted 15% of the US? Maybe you wouldn't miss New Jersey or Delaware but other Americans might.
    If they don't negotiate they risk losing everything. The hundreds of billions of dollars in support isn't going to be renewed forever. They have this year, and then another major questions mark and more resistance to blank checks. This while Russia may actually be getting stronger.

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    If they don't negotiate they risk losing everything. The hundreds of billions of dollars in support isn't going to be renewed forever. They have this year, and then another major questions mark and more resistance to blank checks. This while Russia may actually be getting stronger.
    Hi creepy . Who are you talking to?

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    If they don't negotiate they risk losing everything. The hundreds of billions of dollars in support isn't going to be renewed forever. They have this year, and then another major questions mark and more resistance to blank checks. This while Russia may actually be getting stronger.
    Russia is getting STRONGER?
    Relative to what, the Houthis?

    Putin has managed to get NATO more countries and armed to the hilt. NATO now actually has a very clear purpose!
    And you think Russia has possibly become stronger.... I totally dont get it.

    You dont get stronger by uniting and arming the ins ution you fear the most.

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    Russia is getting STRONGER?
    Relative to what, the Houthis?

    Putin has managed to get NATO more countries and armed to the hilt. NATO now actually has a very clear purpose!
    And you think Russia has possibly become stronger.... I totally dont get it.

    You dont get stronger by uniting and arming the ins ution you fear the most.
    This person is full of .

    Why do you respond to ?

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    Russia is getting STRONGER?
    Relative to what, the Houthis?

    Putin has managed to get NATO more countries and armed to the hilt. NATO now actually has a very clear purpose!
    And you think Russia has possibly become stronger.... I totally dont get it.

    You dont get stronger by uniting and arming the ins ution you fear the most.
    Russia's military industrial complex is stronger and they still have obvious numbers on their side.

    NATO isn't going to fight this war.

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    I actually give the point to Tucker on this one.

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    Russia's military industrial complex is stronger and they still have obvious numbers on their side.

    NATO isn't going to fight this war.
    Only way nato can get in the fight is if they get air superiority

    Only way to get air superiority is sending hundreds of planes to take the skies away from Russia.

    That would mean dozens and dozens of jets lost by NATO

    And it's not even guaranteed they would take the skies.

    No way nato takes that gamble. Thus no way nato boots get in the fight

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    Only way nato can get in the fight is if they get air superiority

    Only way to get air superiority is sending hundreds of planes to take the skies away from Russia.

    That would mean dozens and dozens of jets lost by NATO

    And it's not even guaranteed they would take the skies.

    No way nato takes that gamble. Thus no way nato boots get in the fight
    You will never have a required consensus for a NATO operation in a live war in Ukraine. Not even the US would consider, but just imagine the position of Hungary or Turkey.
    Last edited by DMX7; 02-09-2024 at 11:07 PM.

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    Russia's military industrial complex is stronger and they still have obvious numbers on their side.

    NATO isn't going to fight this war.
    They already are.
    With equipment.
    Ukraine would not have lasted this long. No way without NATO countries uniting to send arms.

    And now Ukraine is building up its own military industrial complex.
    So Ukraine has much, much more equipment compared to when it had mostly old Russian stuff.
    And the equipment from NATO countries is much better than anything Russia can produce to be effective.
    The thing Russia has is men. Who are getting slaughtered by drones.

    And Who would have ever thought Moscow would have military warehouses burning?

    Ukraine is not going away and Putin will not negotiate anything until his testicles are cut off. So here we go.

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