i’m under the impression he’s never tried out for team usa? kinda surprising.
i wonder how many interactions he and pop have had.
Career EFG%: 50.6 (league average is about 53 this season) and career TS%: 58.1 (league average is about 58 this season).
He's a good, not great shooter, but he is a versatile shot maker (pullups, float game) and dangerous enough for defenses to respect him in the p-n-r and off the ball.
Put him with what will eventually probably be the best player in the league and his efficiency should improve.
Steph is basically the only guard in the top 20 of efg. Which let's you know that isn't normally reserved for guards. You find guards who are mostly off ball players leading there, not the ones running the show.
Trae is an above average shooter. He makes his own shots, he doesn't have anywhere near the system someone like Steph has.
Dame is another great shooter around the 50% mark. It's a good idea of players but don't think it's as important as it would seem for the lead guard.
McDermott is 26 in NBA history at 57%.
I tend to have your same wiew... I don't want Young but expecially at a high draft picks price. I didn't like DjM too but a point in his favor is he already knows the system and some of the players, and that before Wemby he was already improving as a playmaker and shooter... So, if his relationship with Pop and the FO is still good, he could be seen as a more than decent fit with our current personnel...
New Locked On Hawks episodes dropped, 2 part episode with a long time recurring guest
Summary:
--- Trae Young isn't getting traded, anyone who knows the market knows he's not going anywhere. On top of that, Young is completely bought in to the team and coach, and his entire approach, demeanor, and defensive improvements reflect how much he's committed to the Hawks. Even if he asks out they're not trading him for at least a season. ---
Listen for yourselves if you want, but I have always found the LoH host to be fair and level headed.
You don’t actually try out, you get invited. Up until the Tokyo games, that would have been on Jerry Colangelo. Grant Hill now holds that position.
He is the main problem, they are hiding him and he is being hunted. Look at his matchup data you would have trouble finding a good offense guy there, then look at how many shots he contest on how those players shoot 5 percent better than their average, which puts him 2nd worst on his team.
Isn’t this a good thing? That the opposing team’s worst offensive player is matched up against Trae and are shooting more shots than regular? You’d rather be beat by the opposing team’s role players vs their star players.
I’d wait for the draft first. I hope the Spurs get two lottery picks and use one of them on a Point Guard like Topic, and bring a vet PG like CoJo back as a reserve. I think Trae is not a long term answer, and will get hunted for his lack of defense comes playoff. I know TP was not the tallest but he played defense with passion. And back then they had Kawhi, Green, Ginobili, stellar defenders. Vassell, Keldon need to step up their defense. I’m also rooting for Blake to improve much. So someone like CoJo who knows the system, a great locker room guy and wouldn’t mind coming off the bench.
Last edited by John B; 02-20-2024 at 10:11 AM.
No these are guards shooting 50 from the field, nullifies your rim protection. The matchup also indicates he is not switching so the teamates who you genius think are worst than him are in constant recovery mode.
The punchable face line was a joke, albeit accurate. The other stuff about his being a bad teammate is 100% accurate. And by bad teammate, I mean that he's a selfish, me-first toxic dude. Say what you will about Parker's indiscretions and Bruce being a dirty player, they always put the game first. They didn't take their own flights home and spar with the GM. They didn't get in fights with the coach and no-show a game. They didn't get multiple coaches and GM's fired. They didn't try to overflex their power in the organization. So you can say that I'm impossible to discuss with, but this is not nonsense at all. These are real data points in determining how a player is going to fit into your culture. I'm not making this crap up, btw. You are out of your freaking mind if want this prima donna within 100 miles of a young, impressionable Wemby.
https://fansided.com/2023/03/05/nba-...c-locker-room/
Oh, I'm definitely a Trae Young hater. I will tell you that straight up. There's no beating around the bush here or saying something without saying it. I hate everything about the guy except his offensive production.
Well, he's averaging just one FGA more than DJ, despite being a way better scorer and playmaker.
Because Hakws are a reputable organization that always had the right people and made the right moves?They didn't get multiple coaches and GM's fired.
Lloyd was a rookie coach obviously out of his depth.
McMillan's every single job ended with reports of locker room turning against him.
If reports of Trae having issues with Synder start, then we might be onto something.
And what is our culture right now?These are real data points in determining how a player is going to fit into your culture.
Instagram Baller Always Complaining Was Spurs Culture?
Wife-beater Forbes was Spurs culture?
Exhibitionist Primo was Spurs culture?
Our culture has gone to and everything that has happened since the summer of 2017 is the best possible argument for Timmy's GOAT case.
Idk about you, but to me it looks like he was holding the entire franchise together.
There are legitimate concerns about Trae's character and fit, but I'd rather take a gamble on one of the best playmakers in the league than watch another couple of seasons with a roster full of supposedly nice-guy, charity cases while Victor gets progressively more frustrated.
Bruh, whatever your points are, this is idiotic. I'll let you think about each of those items and hope you realize what you got seriously wrong here.
Man are people so pent up with their Trae masturbation they're not thinking straight.
My point is that it's hillarious how people with no insight about what's actually going on are always so quick to form their opinion on player personalities.
I've said my opinion on Trae many times.
He's not an ideal solution, but he's the best point guard Spurs will be able to trade for in foreseeable future.
Drafting a rookie point guard would mean another year or two of mediocrity because it's the hardest position to develop.
Getting someone average like Tyus Jones would mean we still need a primary creator since Devin's playmaking skills are non-existant.
From basketball standpoint, it's obvious that Trae is a bad defender and we'd need to adjust, but our roster without Wemby is easily the worst in the league and all of them are expendable.
This will be fifth straight year in the lottery and it's the second longest streak after Charlotte.
Wemby won't wait forever and Trae is a perfect offensive partner for him if he accepts that he's not the franchise player.
If we talk price, I wouldn't give up more than their three picks, Keldon+Collins. Or one of their picks, Devin+Collins.
I'd even be open to taking Capela's expiring if they want all three of them. But if Spurs keep one of Hawks picks.
Instead, in here people are so biased in potential trades and expect that we'll trade for an all-star with two picks and garbage players. Won't happen.
Spurs own picks should be off the table unless it's a legit superstar trade, others should be available. We don't even have enough space on the roster for all those rookies.
And even if we did, Spurs drafting has been nothing short of atrocious as of late.
Samanic, Primo, Wesley, Branham are all busts.
Keldon was a success considering his draft position, but right now he's just an easily moveable asset for salary matching.
Devin is solid enough, even though we missed on better players. But his extension is doing him no favors. Won't be a good contract if he doesn't improve.
Jury is still out on Jeremy, but we obviously missed out on better players.
So what makes you think Brian Wright and co. are capable of striking gold in the draft?
Days of Spurs pulling all-time greats out of their ass are long gone.
Aw,how sweet. Trae’s wearing his letter jacket.
Aw,how sweet. Trae’s wearing his letter jacket.
Trae is pretty bad near the rim tbh
Devin Vassell is at 71.7% 0-3 feet, but go on ST about how he can’t finish.
i dont think vassell's issue is finishing at the rim, it's getting to the rim. only about 15% of his FGA come within 3 feet
his overall efficiency has been fine despite that, he's just not hitting as many of his 3's that you want to see, mostly because of a handful of absolutely dreadful games that have dragged him down
Uh the criticism of Vassell was that he can't create good looks and often takes very difficult shots. No one said he couldn't make a layup
Trae is bad at the rim because of his physical limitations and foul baiting.
Stats at the rim would look much better for him if fouls were included.
Maxey and Fox also have less than 50% on floaters.
You guys have to realize that if he was a perfect player, Spurs would have no chance of getting him because he'd be untouchable.
MVP level players rarely get traded before they're close to their 30s.
I’m shocked at how much worse scoot is than everybody else. I mean yikes.
How nice to wear the letters of the future Las Vegas Spurs.Aw,how sweet. Trae’s wearing his letter jacket.
All this hoopla around Trae Young makes me think that this will never happen. That's not the Spurs way, for better or worse. I'm ready to be underwhelmed, again.
This is a very important free agency and draft as we rebuild. My guess is that the moves will be the typical Spursian type of the past decade or so. Cam Reddish/Luke Kennard and drafting Salaun while missing out on Toronto's pick and not addressing the PG position.
I'm also on Day 2 of no caffeine, so, ya know. Maybe this is seasonal depression.
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