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    Am I crazy in that I'd rather have Grady than Risacher or Furphy?

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    Am I crazy in that I'd rather have Grady than Risacher or Furphy?
    id take over furphy

    risacher has "good, versatile defender who can defend smalls" in his range of outcomes

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    So Furphy is the 2024 ST version of your supposedly underrated, pet pick

    I mean, who wants a top 2 pick when you can pick at 21?

    Nevemind if only 40% of non lottery picks are still in the NBA 5 years to 10 years later vs. 75% of lottery ones. After all, we have a very thorough, totally complete and 100% accurate vision of what the career of these kids with zero NBA games will... Spurs can pass on a projected top 3 picks to grab a #21 projected pick instead. That's what any NBA team would do, who cares about risking being that team who passed on a future star to pick a 3 stringer.

    I mean, who cares about all the Senguns of the word, when you can get Primos.

    Keldon + a FRP to trade up from the second round to Furphy at #21.





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    So Furphy is the 2024 ST version of your supposedly underrated, pet pick

    I mean, who wants a top 2 pick when you can pick at 21?

    Nevemind if only 40% of non lottery picks are still in the NBA 5 years to 10 years later vs. 75% of lottery ones. After all, we have a very thorough, totally complete and 100% accurate vision of what the career of these kids with zero NBA games will... Spurs can pass on a projected top 3 picks to grab a #21 projected pick instead. That's what any NBA team would do, who cares about risking being that team who passed on a future star to pick a 3 stringer.

    I mean, who cares about all the Senguns of the word, when you can get Primos.





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    That sounds like a severe exaggeration of what I was articulating, at least. If a number one pick in THIS draft is so valuable then I'd rather use it on a trade asset then draft Trey Murphy or Goran Dragic, so to speak. Especially if we get the Toronto pick to get a similarly talented player.

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    That sounds like a severe exaggeration of what I was articulating, at least. If a number one pick in THIS draft is so valuable then I'd rather use it on a trade asset then draft Trey Murphy or Goran Dragic, so to speak. Especially if we get the Toronto pick to get a similarly talented player.
    Wasn't a shot at you, but rather THE usual suspect and his massively overrated pet picks he falls in love with in every draft.

    Absolutely no one in the NBA passes on Risacher because there's Furphy in the 20s. Nobody believe they're even similar. Weak draft or not, which remains to be seen (last years was supposed to be great, behind Vic) There's a reason one is projected top 3, the other non lottery. That's not a 100% guarantee, but still enough that nobody is passing on Risacher, if they're interested, because of Furphy.
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    Whoever the Spurs draft isn't going to have pressure to turn the franchise around; that pressure is squarely on Victor's shoulders. No one expects Zacharie Risacher or Alex Sarr or Rob Dillingham to make the Spurs into a contender; everyone expects Victor to.
    But you know there’s dudes on here thinking Risacher’s the next Paul George or something like that because he’ll he tagged with a #2 pick and that always comes with high expectations even though some here try to downplay it.

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    But you know there’s dudes on here thinking Risacher’s the next Paul George or something like that because he’ll he tagged with a #2 pick and that always comes with high expectations even though some here try to downplay it.
    I haven't seen many people (anyone?) suggesting that.

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    kolek looking nice...

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    Tyler Kolek might be as good as Topic, I'd give him strong consideration as a late 1st and no-brainer 2nd round pick if I were the Spurs draft committee.
    He might not have the athleticism for the NBA, but, he's got the brain and skills to be the best passer on this team from day 1.

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    I haven't seen many people (anyone?) suggesting that.
    I've definitely seen high expectations and severe frustration from many on this board. But I think the player will feel that pressure inherently, not from logging onto here.

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    Wasn't a shot at you, but rather THE usual suspect and his massively overrated pet picks he falls in love with in every draft.

    Absolutely no one in the NBA passes on Risacher because there's Furphy in the 20s. Nobody believe they're even similar. Weak draft or not, which remains to be seen (last years was supposed to be great, behind Vic) There's a reason one is projected top 3, the other non lottery. That's not a 100% guarantee, but still enough that nobody is passing on Risacher, if they're interested, because of Furphy.
    And it has been. Brandon Miller is having a huge season, Amen Thompson has been playing great lately and looks versatile as , Lively is way better than he looked at Duke, Jacquez is having a nice season in Miami, and Podziemski and George are quite a bit better than expected. Only big player in this class who isn't looking like he's panning out so far is Scoot.

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    Tyler Kolek might be as good as Topic, I'd give him strong consideration as a late 1st and no-brainer 2nd round pick if I were the Spurs draft committee.
    He might not have the athleticism for the NBA, but, he's got the brain and skills to be the best passer on this team from day 1.
    he's not as good a prospect as topic, but i like kolek quite a bit. he's basically my dream pick at the top of the 2nd round but i dont think he makes it that far

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    And it has been. Brandon Miller is having a huge season, Amen Thompson has been playing great lately and looks versatile as , Lively is way better than he looked at Duke, Jacquez is having a nice season in Miami, and Podziemski and George are quite a bit better than expected. Only big player in this class who isn't looking like he's panning out so far is Scoot.
    Not a"big" player but I didn't understand the Jett Howard pick for the Magic during and I still don't understand it now when was still available.

    Non-lottery but it's gotta sting Lakerfan to know that the next 3 picks after Hood-Schifino were Jaquez, Podz, and Whitmore

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    Not a"big" player but I didn't understand the Jett Howard pick for the Magic during and I still don't understand it now when was still available.

    Non-lottery but it's gotta sting Lakerfan to know that the next 3 picks after Hood-Schifino were Jaquez, Podz, and Whitmore
    Though next to LeBron Jaquez, Podz, and Whitmore would just be standing around at the three point line every possession.

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    Though next to LeBron Jaquez, Podz, and Whitmore would just be standing around at the three point line every possession.
    All 3 would be huge for them right now tbh, especially Podz.

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    Tyler Kolek might be as good as Topic, I'd give him strong consideration as a late 1st and no-brainer 2nd round pick if I were the Spurs draft committee.
    He might not have the athleticism for the NBA, but, he's got the brain and skills to be the best passer on this team from day 1.
    Let's stop targeting low athleticism white players.

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    Spurs could become the best defensive team in the league because of Wembanyama. Sheppard and Dillingham are defensive liabilities and won't allow that. Opponents offensive game-plan will go from being an headache to "Let's just do the obvious and attack Dilingham/Sheppard".

    Spurs should only consider adding a defensive liability if it's an amazing talent that can compensate on the other end. For example, I think Trae Young is good enough to take that trade-off. Dillingham/Sheppard seem to be nowhere near good enough prospects to justify that defensive sacrifice.
    I agree but the problem could be the other way around too if he’s a great defender but a liability on offense like Sochan is. It’ll help out opponents on defense where they’ll double or triple team on Wemby.

    Ideally PATFO gets rid of the pick in a trade for an elite guard

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    So Furphy is the 2024 ST version of your supposedly underrated, pet pick

    I mean, who wants a top 2 pick when you can pick at 21?

    Nevemind if only 40% of non lottery picks are still in the NBA 5 years to 10 years later vs. 75% of lottery ones. After all, we have a very thorough, totally complete and 100% accurate vision of what the career of these kids with zero NBA games will... Spurs can pass on a projected top 3 picks to grab a #21 projected pick instead. That's what any NBA team would do, who cares about risking being that team who passed on a future star to pick a 3 stringer.

    I mean, who cares about all the Senguns of the word, when you can get Primos.

    Keldon + a FRP to trade up from the second round to Furphy at #21.





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    The you talking about? There's a lot of brain damage in this post. I can't figure out what you're saying.

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    Not a"big" player but I didn't understand the Jett Howard pick for the Magic during and I still don't understand it now when was still available.

    Non-lottery but it's gotta sting Lakerfan to know that the next 3 picks after Hood-Schifino were Jaquez, Podz, and Whitmore
    I legit think Orlando didn't want to draft Anthony Black and Gradey together.

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    The real problem going on here isn't about Furphy or any other player. It's that Risacher is just grossly, absurdly overrated on this thread. He's absolutely not the player a lot of these guys have boosted him to be. And it's gotten so panicky that people get really angry when this messianic exaggeration is even close to pricked with a pin. It's like a version of Trumpism. Risacherism.

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    I guess I'd put it this way, to keep people from pissing themselves:

    If Furphy was being posted as a top 3 pick in this draft and Risacher was hanging around the 20s, I'd say this:

    "I would rather draft Risacher at #21 than Furphy at #2."

    Does that stop the thumbsucking? Does a very basic concept become clearer to you? It should.

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    If Furphy was an American with an unremarkable last name, I doubt he would get as much attention

    He gets a lot of hype for an off ball 36-37% 3 point shooter who doesn't put up huge stock numbers

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    If Furphy was an American with an unremarkable last name, I doubt he would get as much attention

    He gets a lot of hype for an off ball 36-37% 3 point shooter who doesn't put up huge stock numbers
    ???

    What kind of hype do you think he's getting? He's late teens early twenties at best in mocks.

    (and Risacher gets the same stocks per 36???)

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