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    Detroit is going to draft Buzelis, if the Spurs don't.
    Let them

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    Kawhi matured as a player in his all around game. Without chip I still believe Kawhi improves his shot.

    What did Chip do to improve his shot? Sometimes it's just a matter of the player working on it on his own.

    Everyone can believe what they want, that's what I believe.
    The team rushed him to San Antonio after the draft specifically so Chip could teach him an entirely new jumpshot before the 2012 lockout officially started. Kawhi deserves the credit for the work he did all summer because the shot Chip taught him had become his jumpshot once he returned for training camp after the lockout, but he didn't come up with that shot on his own.

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    Castle helped lead his team to a le at UConn. He has good size and a high BBIQ. He may not be an athletic freak, but he has good athleticism. He sells out on the defensive end of the court and takes it personal when his man scores. He has a fire, passion, and hunger to be the best and to win. He doesn't just go through the motion, pout, sulk, or rely on his athletic ability. He puts in the work on and off the court.

    Yes, I want Castle at 4. The only other player I would take at 4 would be Sarr, if by some chance he fell that far. That isn't happening, so take Castle.

    Then, at 8, you can take an athletic freak in Holland, also a defensive stalwart, or go with a sharpshooter.

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    Castle helped lead his team to a le at UConn. He has good size and a high BBIQ. He may not be an athletic freak, but he has good athleticism. He sells out on the defensive end of the court and takes it personal when his man scores. He has a fire, passion, and hunger to be the best and to win. He doesn't just go through the motion, pout, sulk, or rely on his athletic ability. He puts in the work on and off the court.

    Yes, I want Castle at 4. The only other player I would take at 4 would be Sarr, if by some chance he fell that far. That isn't happening, so take Castle.

    Then, at 8, you can take an athletic freak in Holland, also a defensive stalwart, or go with a sharpshooter.
    I also have them

    1. Sarr
    2. Castle

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    Chip gets too much credit. Kawhi made Kawhi not Chip.
    Before Kawhi there was Tony

    He made TP unguardable with his mid range shot

    + Almost every Okc players had their % up not by chance

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    Is Castle went 2, Rockets would take Risacher 3 and the Spurs would be left holding their s. Let’s hope this doesn’t happen tbh.
    Would force them to take the only logical player they should be taking at 4, Dilli. We should hop it plays out just like this tbh

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    I think people are catastrophizing picks that aren't their guys. There are probably 20 players in this draft I'd be perfectly fine with the Spurs taking at 4 or 8. The thing I care about is them getting two early shots to take guys they like -- who those guys actually are is basically irrelevant. Free agency and the possibility of trades is where the real action is in my mind. The draft will be a huge factor in what approach the Spurs take to the off-season, but there are ways to respond to any selections the team makes. The important thing is that the Spurs get there, not the path they take. I have posited various scenarios for how this particular summer could go and will continue to do so. With Wemby as pluripotent as he is and the team's assets and flexibility, there are so many different ways to try to skin this cat. Some will involve prioritizing shooting. Some will involve prioritizing defense. Some involve drafting guards. Some forwards. maybe Edey even gets in there somehow. No matter what specific scenario happens, it'll probably still be a fine enough next step in the path. They haven't gotten to the consequential part yet.

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    How long have you been a Spurs fan? "Free agency and trades" are not where the "real action is at", it's where it goes to die. The mere mention of those worried probably terrifies them.

    Expect the Spurs specialty: two perceived choir boy picks who can't shoot and the best player they might sign or trade for is probably Brogdon, who could be the only other rotational addition.

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    One thing I like about the Castle pick is Spurs are taking their best opportunities to build the one-and-done defensive DNA to the team body. The motion offense is there and should improve with a motion playmaker who timvp thinks might start right away.
    -Also looking forward to Dilly filling it up.

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    im stunned by people that say "Will he improve? doubtful" of a kid who's 19.

    what the actual ,

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    You're right. We should just draft Dalton Knecht at 4 and call it a day.

    dear god

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    His current floor isn't an improvement over anyone, tbh.
    lol hes 100% an improvement over Jones or Champegnie.
    lol wtf are we doing here?

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    I like castle,But feel like we need a more faster pg who moves the pace and breaks the defense down and gets
    easy shots for his teammates.Think thats what topic and dilly do imo,Can read the defence and push the ball
    make plays to get shots for themselves or teammates.Castle plays smart and safe basketball,Dont know if has
    another level to be aggressive and dominate.
    Topic is a horrific shooter with meh athleticism. hes a giant ass bust waiting to happen

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    If both, Castle and Sheppard are available, I'm taking Sheppard without thinking twice.

    To me both have about the same celing, with Sheppard having the much higher floor and being able to contribute right away. Sheppard's shooting is gonna be way more valuable than Castle's defense, and Sheppard's playmaking on defense will help him be less of a liability on that side of the floor, than Castle on offense with his lack of shooting.

    If the Rockets draft Sheppard, then I would rather go with Buzelis over Castle at #4, before the Pistons take him at 5, and draft a guard at #8, which will no doubt have 2 or 3 interesting options (Dillingham, Topic or even Castle himself).
    lol Buzelis is a ing nightmare offensively wtf lol

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    Topic is a horrific shooter with meh athleticism. hes a giant ass bust waiting to happen
    You literally described Castle, tbh.

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    If you don't go for Castle to be your PG, i think it's better to draft Cody Williams over him

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    lol hes 100% an improvement over Jones or Champegnie.
    lol wtf are we doing here?
    Right now? He isn't even close.

    Did you see the March Madness games? Coaches were putting bigmen on him and giving him 15 feet of cushion, and the guy still couldn't buy a jumper.

    Now imagine that next to Wembanyma, wait, you don't have to imagine, it already happens with Sochan. Imagine teams leaving two of our guys wide ass open to triple team Wemby at all times.

    That's why he's not an improvement over Champagnie yet. Opposing teams at least need to have a guy on Julien.

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    Castle helped lead his team to a le at UConn. He has good size and a high BBIQ. He may not be an athletic freak, but he has good athleticism. He sells out on the defensive end of the court and takes it personal when his man scores. He has a fire, passion, and hunger to be the best and to win. He doesn't just go through the motion, pout, sulk, or rely on his athletic ability. He puts in the work on and off the court.
    I don't know how accurate it is to say that Castle helped lead UConn to a le. Of guys with significant minutes on the UConn team, Castle is 5th in scoring, 5th in BPM, 5th in WS, and 7th in DBPM... it's probably more accurate to say he was a good young role player on a deep experienced team with great coaching.

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    im stunned by people that say "Will he improve? doubtful" of a kid who's 19.

    what the actual ,
    Ron Holland can develop a jump shot and develop team basketball skills
    Reed Sheppard can develop point guard skills and become Mark Price
    Cody Williams can develop into a good defender and a point forward

    Stephon Castle is a finished product

    It's like winning a national championship as a key player hurts him somehow. All of these players are the same high school class, but somehow he's an exception.

    My concern about him is less his jump shot, which I think will come around, and more a lack of burst and speed. But then I've never thought he'd be a supreme offensive point guard. What I'm getting is an exceptional defenders and a guy who will understand everything about the motion offense. A guy who will know how and where to get Wemby the ball and work off him.

    But yeah, people think he's a finished product because he fit in seamlessly on a dominant team.

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    Your inability to understand sarcasm on this board is impressive.

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    While I’m not so much against Castle’s game, I’d rather see the Spurs pick up a mid career point guard to help out this year. Draft the best couple versatile forwards available. Either way it’s gonna be wait and see how they pan out.

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    Stephon Castle is an overrated non-shooter with a broken jump shot who benefitted from playing on a deep Connecticut team, and who knows whether his defense will translate. Also, he is such a great prospect that somebody will trade up to #3 to get him. This is the 1984 NBA draft.

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    Castle helped lead his team to a le at UConn. He has good size and a high BBIQ. He may not be an athletic freak, but he has good athleticism. He sells out on the defensive end of the court and takes it personal when his man scores. He has a fire, passion, and hunger to be the best and to win. He doesn't just go through the motion, pout, sulk, or rely on his athletic ability. He puts in the work on and off the court.

    Yes, I want Castle at 4. The only other player I would take at 4 would be Sarr, if by some chance he fell that far. That isn't happening, so take Castle.

    Then, at 8, you can take an athletic freak in Holland, also a defensive stalwart, or go with a sharpshooter.
    Holland isn't a freak, he has perfectly normal measurables.

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    Castle going to Houston would truly suck. Not as in not getting him, but having to play that team. I don't care if they get Risacher. I don't think he helps them much. Getting Sheppard would be worse, and then Castle could be a headache.

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    How long have you been a Spurs fan? "Free agency and trades" are not where the "real action is at", it's where it goes to die. The mere mention of those worried probably terrifies them.

    Expect the Spurs specialty: two perceived choir boy picks who can't shoot and the best player they might sign or trade for is probably Brogdon, who could be the only other rotational addition.
    Agree, a very conservation, fearful for a big change, franchise the Spurs are.

    Spurs hate to shakeup the roster with a big trade even with one of the worst roster's in the league.

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