You know, watching more and more Topic film I really think he could become something special long term. He has that Luka type playmaking style that is really nice, and he's a great free throw shooter and finisher. I have faith in his ability to become a consistent 3 point shooter. He also reminds me of a less athletic but more shifty Tony Parker.
To an extent, I feel the same way. Lead guards, below the rim finishers, quick first steps, defensive shortcomings...
Yeah I like Topic too. And I too am not at all worried about his shot long term. It's just a little flat. Small adjustment really.
I'm just really nervous about that latest injury and subsequent rehab process, possible surgery etc.
Could absolutely change the trajectory of not only his stock but career (if mishandled).
yup,His injury scares me tho
These are obviously highlights, but it's very easy to see how comfortable this 18 year old is in an NBA type league (24 second shot clock, pro players etc.)
https://youtu.be/kpGyquTjAWg?si=QqGhjTt8I9n4xDV That’s Strange guys. I keep listening to some good stuff about Salaun.
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I have Salaun as a late lottery pick and would prefer Risacher, Holland, Willams, or Knecht (and Topic, Dillingham, Castle, or Sheppard). I hope they don't get drunk and draft another under-the radar- secret weapon, flashy player like Josh Primo. Just draft a solid PG and a wing please.
Doesn’t shoot well. Doesn’t pass well. Not really a PG.
Topic is a high level PnR player and an intuitive passer. Collier is neither of those. I’d call him a worse Carter.
You act like players never recover from ligament injuries or surgeries. It’s the 21st century. Medicine is modern.
If you talk bout his league,or compare him to Doncic one more time, the villagers with their torches will be on the move.
When you'vebeen traded 3 times maybe (and still, listen to guys talk about it, that always remains some kind of traumatism, specially if you have a family. There are interesting articles about it), but as a young guy who's never been through that process and only knew one team, that's different. You can hear about it all you want, you have to personnally grow through that kind of experience life to really understand it.
Yu can say it's a business, you're tough and all but that's kind of humiliating too to hear you're expandable and your team put you in a big bag of trash they'd had no problem dumping.
We're not watching the same guy then. he's lights years away from Luka style or playmaking skills to me. Different players, I don't understand the comparison.
.I have faith in his ability to become a consistent 3 point shooter
Faith doesn't cost anything, but now he can't rally shoot.
Uh? TP was 10 times faster and more fy than Topic whos' pretty pedestrian.He also reminds me of a less athletic but more shifty Tony Parker.
If he had Luka playmaking skills and was more sneaky than TP , knee or not, he'd be #1, hands up. He's not in the same tier of players.
Modern, yet not infallible. Non-contact injuries of any sort can be worrisome.
Why?
It's not career ending. If you like him the injury should not scare you away.
May only affect him in the early part of this coming year.
Ball has cartilage and meniscus gone, leaving bone on bone.
That’s very different from a ligament injury, which is totally repairable in today’s medical world.
They're being compared because Topic is from the same region and has good size for the position.
While Topic has too many red flags for my liking, his offensive ceiling is just the type we need.
Pass first floor general who can score if needed.
Both Topic at 8 and Castle at 4 with Topic even being better will improve enough on their perimeter shooting not to be liabilities. Topic as the better playmaker and Castle as a stronger defender with both being able to play PG.
Both would be great picks for the Spurs if drafted together, would complement each other along with Vassell in a three guard rotation.
Spurs will be set at the guards if they come away with both Castle and Topic in this year's draft.
I'm not saying it's not an issue, I'm saying it's part of the culture (in which I include medias who can undirectly lobby) more than it is in football (soccer) for ex.
From day one (draft) the idea that you don't chose your team is surreal already but there's more balance in player/FO power than there has ever been and I don't think there's another industry in the world that gives back to employees more than the NBA does.
Player/agents (Klutch Sport power and influence) keeps growing for ex) also have a lot of power
Thee are always some specific cases but globally the balance of power is slowly but surely is going in the player's side imo
I'm fine with either one being picked, but if they get both they'd have to make some serious moves to improve spacing.
Devin is the only reliable shooter left in the rotation. A player that might be chased over screens.
Everyone else is dared to shoot except maybe Champagnie. But he should never be anything more than like 8th man in the rotation.
How would you work with Jeremy, Castle, Topic in the rotation for 4 perimeter positions?
Tre developed his shot a bit, but he's barely reliable on c&s from the corners.
The only two guard draft I'd consider is Castle and Dillingham.
Every other combination should be guard+wing. Or even two wings if they think those are BPA.
He is nothing like Parker. Parker was faster was able to blow past players with speed. You're over rating Topic comparing him to all stars like Parker and Luka.
Topic doesn't have the offensive shooting skills that Luka has and he'll never get there. I expect him to improve enough to be in a solid guard rotation for the Spurs but not be one of the top scoreres in the league.
You understand that Ball’s injury is meniscus, the cushion between the upper and lower leg bone, right? That’s totally different from a ligament injury. Dejounte had a completely torn ACL, which is more serious than an MCL, and he recovered and became an All Star. Bertans tore the same ACL twice, and hasn’t had any effects since.
Topic's and Castle's shooting are not finished products. Spurs are still building the team and not likely going to make the playoffs next year anyways and that's not a bad thing if they don't make the playoffs in a loaded draft next year.
Sochan Topic and Castle don't have to be long term options. The Spurs aren't stuck with them. You trade one or more of them if they don't improve on their shooting.
The wings aren't that special in this draft. And Dillingham will be weak defensively and Spurs want to draft defense.
I have no hope on Dillingham not being a defensive liability and bringing little in an all around game other than shooting while I have hope for Castle and Topic to improve on their shooting.
The Spurs also will not likely have any interest in a small pg high volume shooter(Dillingham), not a player they ever go for.
Can he create separation with his defender like TP did tho?
I'm more worried about his lack of athleticism than his skillset
Doesn't matter they're not finished products. They can develop their shots, but they'll never be seen as dangerous shooters defenders chase over screens. And that's what Spurs need the most on offense.
Ballhandler you need to chase over screens Wemby is setting equals unguardable action if you have a couple more shooters to space the floor. It's that simple.
Yeah, let's just use two top10 picks on players we could discard a year or two later.Sochan Topic and Castle don't have to be long term options. The Spurs aren't stuck with them. You trade one or more of them if they don't improve on their shooting.
Sorry, but you can't trade non-shooters these days. You can only cut them.
Wings aren't special, but neither are guards.The wings aren't that special in this draft.
Dillingham is the only player with superstar potential. I don't think he'll reach it, but every once in a while one of these undersized guards becomes a star.
He's got the skillset. Others don't.
Dillingham will be a defensive liability, but so are many other guards on playoff contenders.I have no hope on Dillingham not being a defensive liability and bringing little in an all around game other than shooting while I have hope for Castle and Topic to improve on their shooting.
Topic and Castle can improve their shooting, but there are levels to it.
There's a huge difference between someone you leave in the corner because he's the least dangerous shooter and someone you have to actively prevent from getting the ball.
Most likely, but we've seen stranger picks happen from PATFO as of late.The Spurs also will not likely have any interest in a small pg high volume shooter(Dillingham), not a player they ever go for.
That's why we have a bunch of disgustingly bad defenders on the roster right now.And Dillingham will be weak defensively and Spurs want to draft defense.
Dillon Jones is really fun to watch. Very unconventional set of tools. I wonder what his best position in the NBA would be.
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