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Makes sense.
Here’s a trade that puts it all together. I *think* there is enough value all around:
CLE: Kispert; Keldon; Graham; 8; 26
WAS: 4; 20; Malaki; Blake; CHA pick
SAS: Garland; 2 (Risacher)
Charlotte isn’t going for the playoffs with a draft buffet like 2025 laid out in front of them.
Makes sense.
Here’s a trade that puts it all together. I *think* there is enough value all around:
CLE: Kispert; Keldon; Graham; 8; 26
WAS: 4; 20; Malaki; Blake; CHA pick
SAS: Garland; 2 (Risacher)
IMO, this is a good deal for both teams and makes a lot of sense if it allows the Spurs to go for a wing at 4 and still get Castle at 6. For example: Buzelis at 4, Castle at 6.
CHA may have their eyes on Clingan ahead of POR at 7 though, in which case a team like MEM also might be able to up the ante on a bid for #6.
Some interesting chess moves at play here. You could see a deal like what Rascal proposes happen after pick 8, where CHA takes Castle at 6 and the Spurs take Clingan at 8, then they do the trade.
Yup. Something like that tracks from SA perspective at least.
The Cavaliers say no. Johnson and Kispert don't address their needs, which are a bigger secondary creator and a stretch four +.
It's why Ingram is probably their primary target and why I've proposed names like Brogdon, Grant and Kuzma.
It's a flat draft, I think #4 + #8 for #1 or #2 would be an overpay. Sarr and Risacher don't strike me as significantly better prospects than the other top10 prospects. A fair offer for #1 or #2 would be #4 + Bulls pick and I think it would be for Risacher because I'm not sold on Wemby + Sarr especially offensively. If Spurs can get Garland, overpaying for #1 or #2 to get Risacher might make sense because of the great fit.
To get a good player like Garland, Spurs could combine/protect their picks. For example a great trade asset would be:
Best of Bulls (top10 protected), Spurs (top10 protected) or Hawks (top10 protected) 2025 first round pick. If all 3 picks are in the top10, worst of Spurs and Hawks 2025 first round pick.
I’d don’t follow the Cavs closely, but looking at their fan boards and the usual sports rags, they consistently point to bigger small forwards and shooting as THE top need. The frustration seems to be mostly directed at Isaac Okoro.
Kispert and Keldon provide depth at that exact position. Pick 8 allows them to go out and draft to fit additional needs, like a Kenect that matches their timeline.
I wouldn’t trade any 2025 first round assets. Even if the Chi pick is like 12 and ATL finished 10th and doesn’t jump up, those two players are likely to be better than the players at the top of this draft.
Not fake stats.
Heres the link:
https://www.proballers.com/basketbal...risacher/games
I did fail to specify last 5 games (which was the time when everyone has a hard on for him. Any mock you read right now says he ended the playoffs super strong but I’m still seeing 7/23 three point percentage during the last five games unless I’m reading it wrong? He’s totally overrated bottom line.
That’s why people are scoffing you.
And I’m admitting my mistake. I am standing by the fact he is super streaky and he will
give you five games and then one great game. Seems like he’ll fit right in on the Spurs!
Fair enough. Samples, in context and large enough can be useful. Shouldn’t be overused, or your number one go to,though.
That’s a good framing - I agree just in general that I don’t like the idea of trading 4+8 for 1 but there may be a context where it makes sense (like a Garland/Trae deal). I just want SA to take their time and not rush for players with very real flaws as “stars” and using too many picks when it’s those picks that provide the best path towards building something real and sustainable
Particularly with this guy everyone has a different number. You can go to ten mocks and find ten different 3 point numbers. The only thing I can take is I don’t trust his shooting one bit and that’s supposed to be his biggest strength. Thank god we probably have about a one percent chance of actually drafting this bum.
You need to add some context, he's not a 1st/2nd option like he would be in college. He's a youngster integrating a team of pros. He doesn't always have the same role depending on match-ups and/or teammates availailities etc
He also played +65 games already, which is probabaly the most by far for any prospect of his age category. College players barely played half... against much easier oppositions
Spurs could trade back ATL picks for 2024 #1 and Murray. Also could offload Keldon Johnson and/or Collins in such a deal.
Not sure why such an obvious win win for ATL and SAS is not being discussed, other then Spurs talk posters in love with 2025 draft of course.
If you’re not in love with the 2025 draft, you’re just not paying attention. It’s MUCH more than just Cooper Flagg. This has a chance to be a ing goldmine like 2003, which had LeBron , DWade, and Carmelo. Whoever goes #1 this year probably goes 8 or 10 next year.
I’m convinced that Detroit GM Troy Weaver was fired because he traded an unprotected first next year for an undersized rim runner in Duren. He’d been incompetent for years, but that may have finally pushed ownership to move on.
Charlotte's not going to try for the playoffs with such a strong draft class in 25 after they tanked for such a trash draft class in 24.
Is that Detroit pick unprotected? I thought it was protected 1-13?
I see no reason why would Hawks do this?
If we break it down in #1 for #4+#8 and DJ for Keldon, Wesley and '25 pick back, it doesn't look good for them.
Would effectively mean they traded '26 swap, '27 FRP and Keldon for DJ rental and then traded down in '24 draft.
Wesley is useless and offers no value.
As I said the other day, if Spurs want to fix their guard situation, getting DJ and then Monk in FA would be perfect.
Send Keldon+Tre and some combination of their picks returned. Tre has value and would be a good backup for them.
I'd try to keep '25 pick, with '26 swap and '27 returned.
Effective trade would be Keldon+Tre for '25 FRP which lets them save face a bit.
DJ, Devin and Monk would be good enough guard rotation for many years. Any combination between them works and they're all different types of guard.
Defense would be a positive with DJ and Devin, we'd have a 6th man that could score 20 on any given night and most importantly none of them would be making a lot of money.
Guards are so difficult to get right in the draft and develop, this would mean guard rotation is set and we'd just need to find some forwards.
And '25 draft is full of them.
(I also suggested a Markkanen trade, but idk how realistic that one is.)
I'm not sure Garland would cost that much less, if any, than Trae.
And while I understand why one would prefer Garland as a player over Trae in a vacuum, I wonder if Trae's game and skills might not be a better fit with wemby. Garland may also be a tad overrated.
I think the spurs should just keep 4 and 8 unless it's for Markkanen but I don't see Utah doing that.
You’re right. I was reading it in an article, and it didn’t mention the protection which is kind of important. A quick trip to the RealGM future picks page shows what you said..
why cherry picking your stats to hate on the guy?
You could also said he shot 7/16 (43%) on his last 3 games vs. Monaco, a top Euroleague team. Risacher just add two bad outings on 3 in this POs (not the last 2 games as you stated) and you chose to isolate them witihin his last 5 games to try and present him as a bad shooter.. That's why you make overall % stats, to eliminate bad and great games. And truth is he shot a bit less than 38% on 3 in those PO which he's been praised for overall, not just the last 5 games.
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