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    My problem with Buzelis, by the way, is how he carries himself off the court. I don’t mind it personally, but he seems like an unserious, silly kid. A few words from him and you can easily identify him as a “Fortnite kid”. On the court, he seems a lot different and actually seems very compe ive. I just don’t know if the Spurs will view him as a locker room fit. But maybe drafting Salaun at 8 will keep him on his toes and force him to act more professional. I don’t question his work ethic, just his maturity level. I’m not saying I definitively know what goes in his head nor am I making an absolute judgment on his character, these are just observations that may end up wrong.

    For now, I think Buzelis at 4 and Salaun at 8 seems ideal to me. Homerun swings that could pay off huge dividends if it hits.
    Same impression. Each interview of him I watch, I see a frat boy/daddy's spoiled kid. Not a focuses kid who wants to destroy everything.

    It could just be a wrong impression tbh. I just have a bad feeling with him and I'm suprised his pesonnality and interviews are used an an argument in his favour by many (KOC in particular who finds "great" the fact that Buzelis went at Risacher earlier this season...smh)

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    All this wild swinging back and forth speculating which team is going to draft whom where is only very tenuously tethered to teams’ real thought processes, which are probably a lot more methodical and stable.
    It's why I don't really engage in any draft discussions. Props to all the people in this thread who have put in the time and effort to research and form opinions, but at the end of the day...it's all speculation and the Spurs have always had a history of surprising us unless it's the #1 pick.

    I'll just wait until draft day and see what we end up with before I start with my own wild prognostications.

    I will say that I am against the Spurs packaging 4 and 8 to move up. I'd rather take two swings in a wild draft than try to bet on what they may think is a sure thing...sure things rarely exist in the NBA draft.

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    My problem with Buzelis, by the way, is how he carries himself off the court. I don’t mind it personally, but he seems like an unserious, silly kid. A few words from him and you can easily identify him as a “Fortnite kid”. On the court, he seems a lot different and actually seems very compe ive. I just don’t know if the Spurs will view him as a locker room fit. But maybe drafting Salaun at 8 will keep him on his toes and force him to act more professional. I don’t question his work ethic, just his maturity level. I’m not saying I definitively know what goes in his head nor am I making an absolute judgment on his character, these are just observations that may end up wrong.

    For now, I think Buzelis at 4 and Salaun at 8 seems ideal to me. Homerun swings that could pay off huge dividends if it hits.
    Doubling down on the same position with the same question marks doesn't seem like the best strategy, tbh.

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    The possession at 48:21… quite utterly ridiculous. That is what a star looks like. Plain as day.
    yeah... while im not as high on him as some here, i find it laughable that people argue he's not a better iso scorer than jeremy sochan

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    yeah... while im not as high on him as some here, i find it laughable that people argue he's not a better iso scorer than jeremy sochan
    Lol Sochan is way better. C'mon.

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    You're comparing a guy who has been beating some of the best players in the NBA and a guy who had minimal flashes in a bad development league.

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    yeah... while im not as high on him as some here, i find it laughable that people argue he's not a better iso scorer than jeremy sochan
    Sochan is the better scorer by far at this stage of their career. More agressive. We're not talking shooting

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    Is Givony a ing moron? Was on TV talking about how Clingan killed his workout and the Hawks are impressed…then proceeds to bring up the idea of the Hawks trading down to #4 in exchange for SA giving them back their 2025 pick

    I’d have a borderline meltdown if we even traded 4 and 8 in exchange for #1. Much less give back any of our future ATL picks.

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    Is Givony a ing moron? Was on TV talking about how Clingan killed his workout and the Hawks are impressed…then proceeds to bring up the idea of the Hawks trading down to #4 in exchange for SA giving them back their 2025 pick
    Not even the most idiotic of posters on random internet boards would propose the mind boggling trades these draftniks are coming up with. Givony is on a roll it seems.

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    Is Givony a ing moron? Was on TV talking about how Clingan killed his workout and the Hawks are impressed…then proceeds to bring up the idea of the Hawks trading down to #4 in exchange for SA giving them back their 2025 pick

    I’d have a borderline meltdown if we even traded 4 and 8 in exchange for #1. Much less give back any of our future ATL picks.
    Givony has been pushing the 4+8 for 1 trade. It originated with him, iirc.

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    The idea is lingering among the draftoscenti that Clingan is not worth the #1 pick so the Hawks will need to trade down to get him. It's a comical assertion given that:

    1. Sarr as the #1 pick was a fabrication created by the draftoscenti
    2. The Hawks are allowed to take any player they want
    3. There's plenty of reasons to think both that Sarr is not the top player in the draft and that Clingan fits better for them

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    Clingan been getting alot of hype to top 3,If reed slips,Do yall think we take him over castle

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    Clingan been getting alot of hype to top 3,If reed slips,Do yall think we take him over castle
    Sheppard would be my pick but based on how the Spurs seem to think about things, I have a feeling they’d pick Castle.

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    The choice between Sheppard, Castle, and Risacher is very interesting in that it shows a lot about your priorities when it comes to draft prospects. Each one of these 3 has only two of the following:

    - frame / physical tools
    - shooting potential
    - decision-making/awareness

    Broadly speaking, each of the three prospects has one of the above 3 traits where he is significantly more lacking compared the other two prospects, and it's very interesting to see how the board ranks the 3 in order of preference.

    Mine personally:
    1. Sheppard (shooting/decision-making)
    2. Castle (frame/decision-making)
    3. Risacher (frame/shooting)

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    Clingan been getting alot of hype to top 3,If reed slips,Do yall think we take him over castle
    I would hope so. I've forced myself to not completely despise the idea of adding a guy like Castle that doesn't even look at the basket beyond 10 feet, but if the possibility is there, I would rather take the best shooter in the country and one of the most elite shooting prospects ever. Even if he adds nothing more, he will definitely provide that: elite shooting. Not Bryn Forbes shooting, not Patty Mills shooting. Trully elite shooting. All-time great elite shooting.

    I would pair that with Wemby any day of the week, tbh.

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    I would hope so. I've forced myself to not completely despise the idea of adding a guy like Castle that doesn't even look at the basket beyond 10 feet, but if the possibility is there, I would rather take the best shooter in the country and one of the most elite shooting prospects ever. Even if he adds nothing more, he will definitely provide that: elite shooting. Not Bryn Forbes shooting, not Patty Mills shooting. Trully elite shooting. All-time great elite shooting.

    I would pair that with Wemby any day of the week, tbh.
    If Reed is even 70% of Curry he would be the consensus #1. Even to the Hawks who already have Young and Murray.

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    If Reed is even 70% of Curry he would be the consensus #1. Even to the Hawks who already have Young and Murray.
    i mean he was sharing alot with good shooting guards on his team.He would be miles way better then branham and jones thats for sure.

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    If Reed is even 70% of Curry he would be the consensus #1. Even to the Hawks who already have Young and Murray.
    Maybe sixty-nine percent?

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    Didn’t a headline already come out a couple of days ago saying the Hawks were keeping the pick? https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...pick-nba-draft

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    sheppard isnt on the same planet as curry tbh. both are excellent college shooters, but curry was much more impressive in terms of volume and degree of difficulty of shots. he was also a MUCH more advanced ballhandler and much more comfortable finisher in the paint.

    tbh i dont think sheppard would thrive at PG in all situations, unless his ball-handling drastically improves. but SA is one of the places where he should do just fine. were it not for wemby's improved playmaking down the stretch, and vassell's ap ude for the pick and roll, id be a lot more wary of liking Sheppard as a starting PG prospect for us.

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    It's getting worse with the trade speculation. Now the Locked on Wizards podcast has a new episode asking should the Wizards trade down from 2 for 4 & 8

    By the weekend, Rockets fans will be talking about #3 for 4 & 8

    By next Tuesday, pistons fans will talk about #5 for 4 & 8

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    If Reed is even 70% of Curry he would be the consensus #1. Even to the Hawks who already have Young and Murray.
    I don't think he has any chance of being anything remotely close to Curry, but I think he can consistently put up 40/45 3pt % seasons on very high volume. That's a weapon that would be useful for years to come.

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    It's getting worse with the trade speculation. Now the Locked on Wizards podcast has a new episode asking should the Wizards trade down from 2 for 4 & 8

    By the weekend, Rockets fans will be talking about #3 for 4 & 8

    By next Tuesday, pistons fans will talk about #5 for 4 & 8
    lol.............

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    It appears that Spurs will pick Castle at 4. There is not point to trade up for ZR given that he is not so excellent in any aspects. If Castle is not available, it will be better to explore trading one 2024 pick for 2025 first round pick and then pick one of the following players as back up: Devin Carter, or Donovan Clingan or Tidjane Saladin or Tyler Smith or Kelsi Ware

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