2024 NBA Draft Thread

[heyheymymy]

It's like Uriel said days ago, quit the bull ATL and let's just all take our guys at our natural spots cmon

[Teamduncan21]

From one of the so-called insiders on Hawksquawk...this basically proves to me this dude doesnt know jack if he thinks the Spurs would give them #4 and their 25/27 picks for the #1 pick in this draft

Wait. Three picks for one? They're biased and is dreaming

[Mr. Body]

I'm a member of the DillyGang, but I am a little concerned about his finishing at the rim based on this graphic. We already have one Blake Wesley.

Blake seems to get his angles all wrong and can't get above or around defenders. I do think he improved a good deal. Dillingham's issue to me is strength. Not sure if he can correct that, but if he gets a floater going, I feel like his touch will make it work. Blake's touch is pretty bad.

[CGD]

New rumors that they might take Buzelis. Lol, they're so desperate to move down. Trying to get Detroit's attention now.

They just need to be big boys and not draft out of fear. If you like Clingan just take him 1.

If you want to continue to play the extortion gamd just so the deal with WAS for 2&26.

[objective]

lol the Hawks revolving door of holding hostage everyone else's presumed targets. First it was Risacher, then Clingan now Buze lol

"Hey t-wolves, the only way you're getting Baylor Scheierman is to get ahead of us and get the #1 pick! Your move!"

[TD 21]

It feels like ATL just really likes Clingan but someone in their FO is convinced that they can milk a little more out of #1 and still get their guy. So much has been thrown against the wall at this point though, that it just gives the sense that Atlanta is desperate. At this point, the Hawks are definitely on the shortest end of the leverage stick. If I'm WAS or SA (not sure who else would be a threat to move up to #1) - I'd put a hard line at an SRP and tell them to take it or leave it. I feel pretty confident that WAS would be content with Castle if ATL took Sarr, and SA would be content with whomever falls to 4.

Wright made a comment today to Michael C Wright that they were placing a lot of calls at the trade deadline last year, but nothing really materialized and that people shouldn't confuse process with outcomes. This leads me to believe Wright maintains an aggressive approach to all of this, but not so aggressive that he's going to make bad deals. I would broadly give him and the FO very high marks when it comes to trades since Wright took over... so if there is anywhere I'm confident in the FO, it is in that regard (drafting and FAs, I'm less optimistic on in regard to this FO).

Lastly, I try to not have an agenda - not that it would make any difference if I did have one. Wright and Pop aren't looking to this forum for anyone's deep insight, so it makes sense for all of us to try and stay as objective and level headed as possible!

Every executive in every sport says something along those lines, especially those with a reputation for being overly conservative/rigid, like this front office rightfully does.

Not referring to a specific case like a trade deadline, but in general it's actions over words.

Agenda in terms of he doesn't like me, among others, so he's looking to be disagreeable and contentious. Other board related agendas include "sniffers" and "edge lords".

[rascal]

I'm a member of the DillyGang, but I am a little concerned about his finishing at the rim based on this graphic. We already have one Blake Wesley.

Castle is the best finisher and best inside the free throw line of this group.

He just needs to push his shot out and blows this group away in all around game.

[The Truth #6]

It all depends on the rest of the lineup and the matchup.

Do we have Castle+3shooters+Wemby? Can Castle actually be a point guard and get to the rim?
Then we're probably fine.

Can they exploit Dillingham's defense? As in playing him against a team with players who can't create for themselves should be fine.
What's the lineup around him? If we could get something like Danny-Juice-young nephew perimeter defense trio, having one bad defender wouldn't be such a big issue.
It all comes down to Dillingham's ceiling. If he can get 22/8 on any given night, he'd be fine. But we wouldn't sacrifice defense for a 15ppg scorer.

I think I'm looking at it more generally and abstractly. A team together can plan a defense to overcome the shortcomings, in this case, literally, of a player. Those who can't shoot in the playoffs typically end up on an island where they back off him so much he's forced to shoot. Sort of like Giddey.

[Mr. Body]

I think I'm looking at it more generally and abstractly. A team together can plan a defense to overcome the shortcomings, in this case, literally, of a player. Those who can't shoot in the playoffs typically end up on an island where they back off him so much he's forced to shoot. Sort of like Giddey.

I just want to say that Wembanyama changes everything. We don't know where this team is heading and who will be on it, but in some ways we can throw out the rulebook. If he stays healthy, Wembanyama is going to be ridiculously dominant on defense. On offense, he's going to absorb so much attention that what other teams have to do is not necessarily what the Spurs have to do with their roster.

For example, his passing is so exceptional among the rest of his gifts that players like Sochan and Castle will be effective simply by cutting and moving. Obviously you want shooters out there, but getting multi-dimensional players and working on those shots can work for now.

[rankingtear]

Confirmed Bub and Holland workouts per Fischer.

[Mr. Body]

Confirmed Bub and Holland workouts per Fischer.

Holy we're going to draft everybody.

[Joseph Kony]

UConn center Donovan Clingan appears destined to be the next big man off the board, if he isn’t the top selection to Atlanta. Clingan worked out for the Hawks and told reporters he sees the potential for strong pick-and-roll chemistry with Atlanta’s guards. The Hawks, of course, are expected to engage rival teams on trade scenarios for both Trae Young and Dejounte Murray throughout this offseason. The Lakers, Pelicans and Spurs remain three destinations that would be appealing to Young, league sources told Yahoo Sports, and teams in the lottery are not discounting the possibility the Spurs could engineer a move up to the top slot, which could open the door for Atlanta possibly selecting Clingan at No. 4.

The Spurs currently hold the fourth selection in addition to the No. 8 pick, and San Antonio was able to book Clingan for a Zoom meeting this past weekend, sources said. With both Portland and Memphis known to hold interest in trading up and acquiring Clingan, according to league personnel, there’s no shortage of NBA figures who believe this late San Antonio interest in Clingan could simply be a ruse with the goal of enticing another front office to move up and land the UConn center. The Spurs originally focused on pinning Victor Wembanyama next to a strong-shooting center, such as Zach Collins, and Clingan, for all his strengths on defense, is not exactly a proven commodity from distance.
But after his interview with the Spurs, Clingan seemed intrigued by the option. “It was good to be able to get to know [San Antonio] more and show them who I am as a person and get them to learn a little bit more about me,” Clingan said. “And I feel like the me and the Wemby connection is something that could really work out. I’m just excited for tomorrow night.”


There’s been plenty of buzz surrounding Providence guard Devin Carter being a possible pick for San Antonio at No. 8. Carter grinned while envisioning throwing lobs to a “big target” like Wembanyama. Carter has been one of the biggest risers in this class. He worked out for Memphis – where his father, former NBA player Anthony Carter, is an assistant coach – Utah, Chicago, Miami and the Lakers in addition to San Antonio.
Nikola Topić, the 6-foot-7 Serbian point guard, has also been a name rival executives posit is under consideration for the Spurs. Topić said Wednesday that he visited San Antonio, Utah, Portland, Memphis and Houston while he nurses a partially torn ACL.

https://sports.yahoo.com/pelicans-pr...165257730.html


some Spurs tidbits here

[PhantomDashCam]

Wow kudos to Spurs for working out Holland. Really doesn’t seem like the player they would be interested in (or will ultimately draft), but having an in-person workout with arguably the most athletic player in the draft (Carter currently has that tag) shows they may be altering their draft myopia a little.

[R. DeMurre]

I'm a member of the DillyGang, but I am a little concerned about his finishing at the rim based on this graphic. We already have one Blake Wesley.

Also, for all the talk about how Dilly is a great shooter while Carter is a developing shooter, their FG% and eFG% are pretty much identical.

[CGD]

Wow kudos to Spurs for working out Holland. Really doesn’t seem like the player they would be interested in (or will ultimately draft), but having an in-person workout with arguably the most athletic player in the draft (Carter currently has that tag) shows they may be altering their draft myopia a little.

Some of these workouts suggest to me they may have entertained idea of swapping 4 for 7/14 with Portland.

[Mr. Body]

Some of these workouts suggest to me they may have entertained idea of swapping 4 for 7/14 with Portland.

IMO that's too expensive for Portland.

[CGD]

I don’t know much about the cap stuff, but some of these Bobby Marks types are saying that the early SRPs in this draft are gonna have unusually high value bc of the second apron thing. Wonder what they could mean for the Spurs at 35?

[CGD]

IMO that's too expensive for Portland.

Probably. They would have to REALLY want Clingan.

[exstatic]

I don’t know much about the cap stuff, but some of these Bobby Marks types are saying that the early SRPs in this draft are gonna have unusually high value bc of the second apron thing. Wonder what they could mean for the Spurs at 35?

The thing is, if you’re a second apron team, you can’t include cash in trades, so the kind of rules out the buy/sell second rounder thing.

[CGD]

The thing is, if you’re a second apron team, you can’t include cash in trades, so the kind of rules out the buy/sell second rounder thing.

I think they were suggesting that teams with picks late in the first round this year, may be looking to trade back to the second round to avoid paying the guaranteed first round money. And that the cost wouldn’t be that high to pick up a late FRP

[Mr. Body]

Rumors that Utah is trying to move up to Detroit in order to target Castle. Rumor suggests they're trying to jump over Charlotte, thinking they would take him. Take with a grain of salt.

[DAF86]

It all depends on the rest of the lineup and the matchup.

Do we have Castle+3shooters+Wemby? Can Castle actually be a point guard and get to the rim?
Then we're probably fine.

Can they exploit Dillingham's defense? As in playing him against a team with players who can't create for themselves should be fine.
What's the lineup around him? If we could get something like Danny-Juice-young nephew perimeter defense trio, having one bad defender wouldn't be such a big issue.
It all comes down to Dillingham's ceiling. If he can get 22/8 on any given night, he'd be fine. But we wouldn't sacrifice defense for a 15ppg scorer.

It isn't as deep, imho. If Castle doesn't learn to shoot and Dilly is a liability on D, then you want neither on a playoffs rotation. But if you have to go with one for a 5 minutes stretch each half, you pick the shooter ten times out of ten. You go with Patty Mills over Ime Udoka.

[PhantomDashCam]

I'll preface this with I'm not sure how trades work across this double night of drafting.
However, it would be hilarious if we think we've hit on a player the majority of the fanbase seems to like ie. Castle,
only to trade him the very next night...

[mudyez]

The thing with Dilly and to a lower extent Reed and others is, if you really want to use Wembys defensive presence as a crutch or go all out and build one of the most dominant defenses EVER.

I'm more in the later camp, but still like Reed as I can see his steal and block rate work with clever tactics when paired with Wemby.

[scott]

Rumors that Utah is trying to move up to Detroit in order to target Castle. Rumor suggests they're trying to jump over Charlotte, thinking they would take him. Take with a grain of salt.

SA SENDS TO UTAH

#4
#8
#35
Zach Collins
Worst of SA/ATL '25

UTAH SENDS TO SA

#10
#29
Lauri Markkanen

Follow that up with:

SA sends 4 SRPs to PHX for #22

Spurs Draft:

#10 - Dillingham or Carter (probably Carter, tbh)
#22 - Tyler Smith
#29 - Johnny Furby