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    Wright is just a coward
    He's not a coward. He's just unqualified for the role he is in but he's Pop's pet GM project.

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    I can’t even be hyped for Castle. Just a total disaster.

    “We didn’t like the options at 8.” Wtf there’s like 4 good players on the team, why be choosy now all of a sudden

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    He's not a coward. He's just unqualified for the role he is in but he's Pop's pet GM project.
    So like a Jerry Jones situation? Don't bring in a guy that's going to have an opinion and challenge you?

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    I think salaun was the option they would have stayed put for. Outside of that, I agree. Most of these guys would be pick 20+ in most drafts. This draft is really weak for high draft picks.

    I think most people are just bummed they don't have another new toy to watch. Castle is a great investment and could be the best player in the draft as much as anyone else.
    Probably a smoke screen, just like Carter clearly was. All the talk about how impressive Carter was in his workout against Castle and not a peep about how Castle looked. Then the bull to Don Harris about JaKobe Walter. Wonder if Holland was their actual target at 8.

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    I can’t even be hyped for Castle. Just a total disaster.

    “We didn’t like the options at 8.” Wtf there’s like 4 good players on the team, why be choosy now all of a sudden
    Holts and Co don't want to pay $ for what was left, they'd much rather spend money on their business ventures like the country club

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    Yeah gotta flip to full sniffer mode now seeing how good the swap is. Those are some legit assets that could land someone big in trade.
    this is Wemby’s seventh year. Will probably help them make a swing for another star by then.

    Lots of disappointment from this forum, though I’m sure the FO has done their due diligence. It might’ve been a bad decision for this year’s draft but not for the team’s long-term flexibility.

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    Spurs look like a poor franchise duping their best player and their fans rn, unfortunately
    That's exactly what they are.

    The only teams who have loss more than us over the last few years are the piston and the wizards, both bottom of the barrel franchises who have won nothing.

    When we tell our grand children about the les we won in the 2010's they won't believe it because by then the spurs will be entering their 45 consecutive losing season.

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    You guys realize there were like 30 people in the Spurs draft room, right? Unless Wright was training a pistol on all of them, this was a group decision.

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    this is Wemby’s seventh year. Will probably help them make a swing for another star by then.

    Lots of disappointment from this forum, though I’m sure the FO has done their due diligence. It might’ve been a bad decision for this year’s draft but not for the team’s long-term flexibility.
    At this rate he'll be on another team by then TBH.

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    I just hate that the Spurs keep doubling down on this roster, from the picks they keep not making, to the decision to sell cap space for very little, to the extensions they handed out to Vassell and Collins. How long do they think great cores tend to be bad? When are they going to realize they don't have a good core. They have a franchise player and exactly one player who can currently hold his jock. Castle and Sochan can change that play some support while having potential, and Jones and Johnson do a yeoman's job. But they are not at the level where they should be looking at top-10 picks as extraneous. If they want to play at the margins and take on some salary here and there, that's find. OKC was doing that even while they were a playoff team. But this approach is beyond the pale.
    This. I hate what this trade implies about their approach during the next few years. If the assets end up netting them a big fish then good on them. But I have absolutely zero faith in Wright’s ability to actually build a contender.

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    All I know is that we need some wing shooters.
    They better make it happen.
    #35, trade, free agency, I don't care.

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    Statistically, he was one of the best scorers from his draft class last year. He was pick 20. No pick from 15 down has a higher ppg than him. Only a couple from 10 down.

    Offensively, he's been everything he was advertised to be. A bucket. For a 20th pick, he has been pretty good, especially in comparison to those drafted after him.

    He's a traffic cone on defense and why im not a big fan of him but he even showed improvements there.

    He's still just 21 years old. As a starter in the NBA, he averaged 11 ppg.

    Expectations for these young prospects are so unrealistic.
    I liked what I saw from Branham in the second half of the year. He was doing the two things I really wanted him to do: not give up on plays, disengage on defense and work harder, and let fly from deep. Still a work in progress, but that was just his second year.

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    Yeah gotta flip to full sniffer mode now seeing how good the swap is. Those are some legit assets that could land someone big in trade.
    The only way they become legit assets is if Minnesota, with Edwards in his absolute prime, is bad 6 years from now. If not, you just traded #8 for #29.

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    Probably a smoke screen, just like Carter clearly was. All the talk about how impressive Carter was in his workout against Castle and not a peep about how Castle looked. Then the bull to Don Harris about JaKobe Walter. Wonder if Holland was their actual target at 8.

    I don't think Carter was a smokescreen, just due diligence. Every team Carter worked with raved about him. He's older, smaller, and hasn't developed very well at the pg position. Struggled with top tier defenses that'll he will see a lot more of in the NBA. Tough to spend a top 10 lottery pick on that when you already have younger prospects that won't cost 8 Mil a year.

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    My biggest problem with the trade is the bet against Ant Edwards. The Spurs are betting a 29 year old Ant Edwards is gonna provide a pick better or equal to the 8th pick in this weak draft. I don’t see it.

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    You guys realize there were like 30 people in the Spurs draft room, right? Unless Wright was training a pistol on all of them, this was a group decision.
    That's nice but ultimately it's his arse on the line because he has the le.

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    At this rate he'll be on another team by then TBH.
    and Minnesota could be a lottery team by then, if we’re going by hypotheticals. Regardless where Wemby is by then the pick itself is still pretty valuable.

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    This is like a twilight zone episode, you get Wemby, but you're stuck with a incompetent FO for years

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    I liked what I saw from Branham in the second half of the year. He was doing the two things I really wanted him to do: not give up on plays, disengage on defense and work harder, and let fly from deep. Still a work in progress, but that was just his second year.
    That low release on the 3 ball is my main gripe with him on offense. He'd get blocked 2 or 3 times some games with it. He can get away with it inside the arc with his craftiness though. He's definitely a good prospect. Teams have to have a bench that can score to compete. He could be a very valuable bench player, a better patty mills type.

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    So are they or are they not building through the draft like you claim they're trying to do? You seem to love to make this claim. Looks to me like they just keep trading picks for more picks. Rinse, repeat.
    Yes, the core will be their draft picks. They wanted Salaun and when he was taken they moved the pick for two future picks.

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    This. I hate what this trade implies about their approach during the next few years. If the assets end up netting them a big fish then good on them. But I have absolutely zero faith in Wright’s ability to actually build a contender.
    https://x.com/jmcdonald_saen/status/...cbAMOAEHj_SvkA

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    Anyone who knows the Spurs should have known they weren't going to put a high value on a small guard like Dillingham.

    No surprise they drafted him for someone else.

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    and Minnesota could be a lottery team by then, if we’re going by hypotheticals. Regardless where Wemby is by then the pick itself is still pretty valuable.
    There is 0 value in a pick that far out. If the Spurs made that pick available in a trade this off season they are getting almost nothing for it. Which is why Minnesota was fine giving it to the Spurs. Because you know, they could care less about worrying how things might be for them in 6 and 7 years.

    If I cared enough about this team I would be alarmed at the simple things our front office has failed to grasp. In order for some teams to make good deals, some other teams have to make bad ones. At least we'll always have the Duncan era.

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    The only way they become legit assets is if Minnesota, with Edwards in his absolute prime, is bad 6 years from now. If not, you just traded #8 for #29.
    7 years ago in 2017 we were battling GSW in Western finals with GSW won the NBA le that year. Ever since we have been in lottery for years while GSW missed playoff 3 times in the last five years. KAT will be 35 years old by then. A lot of things may happen in 6-7 years.

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    So what's the "ideal" conservative path forward here?

    They hit on one of the decent players still around at 35 like Smith, Filipowski, Mitc , Klintman or Kolek. Then, they use their cap space to bring in a rotational forward whose team might want to trade him for salary relief (Barnes, Hunter, Wiggins) and their RE to bring in a caretaker wing for the bench (Richardson or Graham)

    Castle, Jones, Wesley
    Vassell, Richardson, Branham
    Barnes, Johnson, Champangie
    Sochan, Smith, Cissoko
    Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey

    I mean, IS this the worst-case scenario? No. Castle probably shouldn't be starting, but if they love him so much he might end up doing it anyway. The bench isn't horrible, but the lack of spacing in that first unit feels like a fatal flaw. It's sad that it's more realistic that the Spurs sell their cap space for an insta-waive and a few seconds after selling off the seconds they already have this year for cash.

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