There is Markannen to Spurs Buzz

[baseline bum]

Chi pick taking a hit with DeRozan and Caruso gone unfortunately

[Manu&Duncan fan]

If Bridges get four first rounders Lauri gets at least that much if not five first rounders. You don't get him for only three firsts unless you include Dev and take back John Collins.

The situation is different. Nets had no desire to trade Bridges. So Knicks had to overpay.

Utah desperately wants to trade Lauri now so they can tank freely.

Plus, Bridges has two more years of team-friendly contract left.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Putting myself in their shoes, the thinking is mortgaging the future for the present because it's highly unlikely they'll land another Curry in the next say 20 years and this is their shot to win one more while he's still an elite player. It'll cost a lot but not everyone can be the Spurs having Robinson, Duncan, and Wembanyama land in their laps on pure luck.

Totally agree with you on this. Warrior is ready to throw 3 to 4 unprotected FRPs to Utah.

Unfortunately for them, it's up to Lauri to decide.

[poopbox]

Yeah, Lauri would be damn expensive. The Spurs would lose much of their war chest. I think baseline bum is on the right track regarding what it'd take.

I mean you can make the case that Lauri is the exact type of player the war chest is for TBH.

23 and 8 on almost 50 40 90 splitts. Who other type of player would you be trying to cash your picks in for over Lauri.

I'm not even a fan of Lauri but it's highly likely the Spurs will ever be able to get a player as good as him with the picks they have, mostly because star players rarely become available.

[scott]

Re: Devin....

I like Vassell a lot more on a team with Wemby and Lauri, especially one with CP3 running point and teaching Steph Castle. My frustration with Devin last year was that he was playing like was the alpha on this team, when clearly that was Wemby. I'm willing to let that slide in Wemby's rookie year and I feel like certainly Devin by now realizes who's team this is. A huge deal for Lauri should also make it pretty clear to him where falls in the pecking order. CP3 will help keep that natural order of things as well.

Vassell is a reaaaaally nice piece next to Wemby and Lauri. I like that 3-headed monster a lot, and you still have a prospect in Castle on the team with hopefully at least one more high end rookie coming in next year.

If you acquire Lauri here, the expectation MUST be playoffs, in which case the SA pick is in the late teens or 20s. Atlanta can be late lotto or better. You can move off that SA25 pick for a pick in 2026 to still have the talent pipeline flowing.

The stars couldn't align more perfectly on this. The picks that fit Utah's war chest best are in even numbered years... those are the years when all of SA's picks have swaps attached, which give them unique upside that a Spurs pick alone would not have if they were going to be a playoff team. Having those MIN picks uniquely fits in with Utah because of their assets from the Gobert trade. It's almost like it was designed this way. If we pull this off... then we owe PAFTO and Wright a huge apology.

[DPG21920]

I don’t even want Lauri if Dev is involved. Sochan I sort of get but not Dev

[Obstructed_View]

He's a third option on a nice contract. Also, he's still getting better.

He regressed last year. He didn't pass to Victor, his defense fell off a cliff, and he wasn't consistent. He shows flashes, but he's too old to be showing flashes IMO.

You think Keldon is a negative and don’t value dev much. I think you’re way off on spurs players tbh

Neither of them is developing to the point that they're indispensable. The clock is ticking. I hold out some hope, but nobody on the team made any sort of leap last year.

I'm kind of torn on him.
This season I was really annoyed with him in a lot of games where he was so passive and allowed inferior players like Jeremy and Keldon to impose themselves and chuck out out of games.
But as a third option he makes sense, especially given his contract.

$141M-154M-170M-187M-205M are the future cap projections.
Devin is going to be on $27M a year during those seasons.

16%-14%-13% of the cap in final three seasons of that deal.

Even if he doesn't improve much, that would be amazing value for an efficent 20ppg scorer who doesn't need the ball and is a solid enough defender.
Quickley got 175/5 the other day.
The most important thing in the upcoming seasons will be to have players on team-friendly deals.

He and Keldon both have decent contracts. If they could play better team ball with Victor and show some commitment to defense those contracts would look even better.

[spurraider21]

This narrative is so ing dumb. Who is Ainge, a ing mind controlling Jedi master?

Just go into any negotation with an already established max that you are willing to pay and anything over that is no go. It's really not that difficult, tbh.

the better way to put it is Ainge is very difficult to deal with. if he doesnt get a lopsided trade in his favor, he walks

[Mugen]

Lauri could make life a lot easier for San Antonio if he told Ainge & the Dubs he's not re-signing there tbh

[objective]

The reason a Max contract for Lauri via an expensive trade pick wise is a bad idea is that while he scores he's not a primary.

And once you have him that's pretty much it for your roster, you'll be paying him $50 million and he's not even on the ball.

This team has no sure thing point guard of the future and a 39 year old Paul. If Castle fails at it, there won't be picks to try and get a primary creator in the draft, and they won't have the money to sign one.

On top of all that, no one knows for sure that he would be a good fit with Wemby. Everyone was certain Zollins was a great fit, so sure they paid him too soon. Lauri has been unsuccessful other places in his career, he's been expendable, and he had his bout with health issues.

If they pay the max and the farm in assets it's paying double for a guy who has underwhelmed before.

I've killed their drafting and advocated trading the picks for that reason, I just feel like Lauri as that guy ...

No thanks. If he had 2-3 years left, sure. But don't pay max assets and max money like an idiot. Don't overstep like with Zollins

[Knoxxx]

Vassell is a good contract we could include. Can Jazz S&T Lauri?

[tesseractive]

the better way to put it is Ainge is very difficult to deal with. if he doesnt get a lopsided trade in his favor, he walks

If he'd rather take a tier offer from someone else or let Markkanen walk next year to someplace that won't be tanking, he's welcome to do it. He's under a certain amount of pressure to make the deal.

[Uriel]

Too expensive. No thanks. There were will be other, better opportunities in the future.

[Uriel]

Also, I still remember the days when John Collins was our dream target in free agency and Lauri Markannen was seen as a Plan B. Good times.

[Knoxxx]

Spurs may indicate that they will like to try and beat Jazz best offer.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Lauri could make life a lot easier for San Antonio if he told Ainge & the Dubs he's not re-signing there tbh

He will if Spurs offer him Max extension and use him as #2 guy. Ainge is shrew guy. But there is not much he can do. he can maybe drag this to February and get less value.

[Dejounte]

Woj…shams… throw us another bone pls

[Dejounte]

Too expensive. No thanks. There were will be other, better opportunities in the future.

In order for one to predict the future, one can look to the past.

Tell me, which players have been seen as great opportunities in the last 5-10 years for a team to trade for? Anthony Davis might be the only one but he only wanted to go to LA.

[Kevin]

People like to site the Siakam deal for the three first rounders as the price but as noted in other threads Lauri is almost exactly three years younger than Siakam and that should warrant one more pick.

Also the 2026 Atlanta pick could carry the weight of two picks since its in the near future and has a good chance at being a good pick.

Maybe 2026 ATL pick which counts as two picks as for reason already stated, most favorable of the 2030 swaps and the 2031 Minny pick.

[spurraider21]

siakam was a proven #2 on a championship team who also provides high end, versatile defense

[z0sa]

Re: Devin....

I like Vassell a lot more on a team with Wemby and Lauri, especially one with CP3 running point and teaching Steph Castle. My frustration with Devin last year was that he was playing like was the alpha on this team, when clearly that was Wemby. I'm willing to let that slide in Wemby's rookie year and I feel like certainly Devin by now realizes who's team this is. A huge deal for Lauri should also make it pretty clear to him where falls in the pecking order. CP3 will help keep that natural order of things as well.

Vassell is a reaaaaally nice piece next to Wemby and Lauri. I like that 3-headed monster a lot, and you still have a prospect in Castle on the team with hopefully at least one more high end rookie coming in next year.

If you acquire Lauri here, the expectation MUST be playoffs, in which case the SA pick is in the late teens or 20s. Atlanta can be late lotto or better. You can move off that SA25 pick for a pick in 2026 to still have the talent pipeline flowing.

The stars couldn't align more perfectly on this. The picks that fit Utah's war chest best are in even numbered years... those are the years when all of SA's picks have swaps attached, which give them unique upside that a Spurs pick alone would not have if they were going to be a playoff team. Having those MIN picks uniquely fits in with Utah because of their assets from the Gobert trade. It's almost like it was designed this way. If we pull this off... then we owe PAFTO and Wright a huge apology.

Yes indeed. Vassell will be the best THIRD option in the League, with the capability (when he's getting fed easy shots as a secondary creator) to blow up any given game for 35 on 7 made 3s or the like. Vassell's 100% a keeper - as a 2B (AKA third) type option. Someone who some nights can absolutely be the next guy after Wemby getting his when he's super on., but isn't the primary guy opposing coaches are gameplanning for (which is where he will excel).

[z0sa]

double

[Kevin]

siakam was a proven #2 on a championship team who also provides high end, versatile defense

You're not wrong about that but if they really want the winning bid on Lauri they'll have to surrender equivalent value of four first rounders. 26 Hawks pick counts as two picks. You could argue that the 2030 swaps might have equal value of two picks as well especially with the Minny pick in the mix.

[MannyIsGod]

I don’t even want Lauri if Dev is involved. Sochan I sort of get but not Dev

I agree with this. Whats even the point of that for the Spurs.

[stnick2261]

Giving Lauri a max contract has to be baked into any conversation of acquiring him.

IMO, he's not the right player to get all-in for pick-wise. It's close because he's an awesome offensive player but I'm not sure his defense is good enough to build around as a second star. He can get targeted -- and could become a liability once he's ~30.

I want to keep ATL25, ATL26SWAP, SA25 and SA26. I'd probably be on board if the major assets given up are ATL27, MINDAL30SWAP and MIN31. That's still a lot though because Atlanta could be even worse, that Minnesota/Dallas swap has a really good chance of being a lottery pick and MIN31 could also be damn good.

I'd include Sochan in a trade for Lauri if Ainge values him as a first round pick. He'd lose most of his use here. Vassell would need to be valued as two first round picks before I'd even think about it. In total, Lauri probably will cost the equivalent of four or five good first round picks.

The cheapest way to get Lauri would be to give ATL back their picks, have ATL find a team desperate for Trae Young and then have those assets shipped to the Jazz along with Zach Collins.

I really wouldn’t want to give up any unprotected picks if we’d be a Wemby-Injury away from a top pick. I also wouldn’t want our picks being tied up for multiple years if it doesn’t convey. What if we did something structured like the Boston swap?

2027 first round pick (top 4 protected). If it doesn’t convey, it turns into 2027 & 2028 seconds.
Do the same for 2029 first round (top 4 protected) / 2029 & 2030 seconds
and again 2031 first round (top 4 protected) / 2031 & 2032 seconds

I put more value on keeping other team’s unprotected picks because I’d be hoping we are the better team by then.
He’s who I wanted to target in 2025 free agency (after a good draft pick, but how much would he actually cost? As I understand, if Utah renegotiates so they can extend at a higher cost, they won’t be able to trade him before next summer anyway. If we trade now, we run the risk of losing him (even if we have his guarantee, that risk should drop his price). If they sign a trade next summer, how many picks would we give instead of outright signing him?