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    The problem is Keldon plus our two best FRPs may not be agreeable to Jazz. That was one reason I suggested a player as good as Vassell, our BPA to trade, and more of our less valuable FRPs.
    At this point your just robbing Peter to pay Paul........

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    He will cost too much in picks and in salary
    Hope GS gets him

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    Or we could just be patsies in a 3 team deal that send Lauri to OKC:

    https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...gency.amp.html
    Why the would the Spurs give up two unprotected picks for Dort and Kessler?

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    Might as well trade for kawhi. They both miss 1/3 of every season every year

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    Might as well trade for kawhi. They both miss 1/3 of every season every year
    Difference being one wants to play and complains about being shut down while the other one keeps making excuses to not play.

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    Just as a hypothetical question, let's suppose that KAT were available and the wolves are imploding

    How much in draft capital would you be willing to pay for KAT? Because what I keep hearing about KAT is that he's a loser on a bloated contract that's not really worth trading for because he can't play defense, while he's on a 4/220 contract starting next year while Markannen will be looking for a 4/212 contract after next year

    By most measures KAT has been the superior player to Markannen for their entire career. KAT has an argument to be as a good a 3 point shooter as Markannen. Is it the higher volume of 3s and the 3 year age difference that makes Markannen a superior hypothetical target? Just trying to get some perspective.

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    Just as a hypothetical question, let's suppose that KAT were available and the wolves are imploding

    How much in draft capital would you be willing to pay for KAT? Because what I keep hearing about KAT is that he's a loser on a bloated contract that's not really worth trading for because he can't play defense, while he's on a 4/220 contract starting next year while Markannen will be looking for a 4/212 contract after next year

    By most measures KAT has been the superior player to Markannen for their entire career. KAT has an argument to be as a good a 3 point shooter as Markannen. Is it the higher volume of 3s and the 3 year age difference that makes Markannen a superior hypothetical target? Just trying to get some perspective.
    KAT is cultural poison. I don't want Wemby catching the gay voice

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    Just as a hypothetical question, let's suppose that KAT were available and the wolves are imploding

    How much in draft capital would you be willing to pay for KAT? Because what I keep hearing about KAT is that he's a loser on a bloated contract that's not really worth trading for because he can't play defense, while he's on a 4/220 contract starting next year while Markannen will be looking for a 4/212 contract after next year

    By most measures KAT has been the superior player to Markannen for their entire career. KAT has an argument to be as a good a 3 point shooter as Markannen. Is it the higher volume of 3s and the 3 year age difference that makes Markannen a superior hypothetical target? Just trying to get some perspective.
    Markkanen has a much more efficient style of play. He's like a 7 foot Klay Thompson. He gives you 20+ PPG without needing the ball on his hands. He's also more mobile on the perimeter.

    Also, KAT has already made himself the fame of shrinking in the playoffs. Lauri still has the benefit of the doubt on that regard.

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    Markkanen has a much more efficient style of play. He's like a 7 foot Klay Thompson. He gives you 20+ PPG without needing the ball on his hands. He's also more mobile on the perimeter.
    Yeah, but is he happy?

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    Just as a hypothetical question, let's suppose that KAT were available and the wolves are imploding

    How much in draft capital would you be willing to pay for KAT? Because what I keep hearing about KAT is that he's a loser on a bloated contract that's not really worth trading for because he can't play defense, while he's on a 4/220 contract starting next year while Markannen will be looking for a 4/212 contract after next year

    By most measures KAT has been the superior player to Markannen for their entire career. KAT has an argument to be as a good a 3 point shooter as Markannen. Is it the higher volume of 3s and the 3 year age difference that makes Markannen a superior hypothetical target? Just trying to get some perspective.
    Careful, you're going to get a bunch of knee-jerk braindead takes like "no thanks, KAT is a career loser".

    KAT is better than Markkanen, plain and simple. He would be harder to acquire, though, because the Wolves are in full win now mode and the Spurs can't get the Wolves control of their own drafts back.

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    I really want Lauri and on a multi-year deal. I am ok with overpaying a bit to make it happen.

    We have a ton of draft capital and some expiring contracts that we could hopefully use to trade for him. I really do not want to lose Vassell in the trade. I am ok with losing Keldon.

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    Careful, you're going to get a bunch of knee-jerk braindead takes like "no thanks, KAT is a career loser".

    KAT is better than Markkanen, plain and simple. He would be harder to acquire, though, because the Wolves are in full win now mode and the Spurs can't get the Wolves control of their own drafts back.
    The real prize is in 2028, when Ant request a trade. The Spurs call, 'we have your picks.'

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    Markannen is who you want beside Wemby he is a dependent all star caliber player like Klay. I think SAS starts with KJ + Sochan + ATL picks.

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    Just as a hypothetical question, let's suppose that KAT were available and the wolves are imploding

    How much in draft capital would you be willing to pay for KAT? Because what I keep hearing about KAT is that he's a loser on a bloated contract that's not really worth trading for because he can't play defense, while he's on a 4/220 contract starting next year while Markannen will be looking for a 4/212 contract after next year

    By most measures KAT has been the superior player to Markannen for their entire career. KAT has an argument to be as a good a 3 point shooter as Markannen. Is it the higher volume of 3s and the 3 year age difference that makes Markannen a superior hypothetical target? Just trying to get some perspective.
    Markannen will be looking for a 5 year, $269 million contract next year provided the cap increases by the 10% projected from the new TV deal.

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    Markannen is who you want beside Wemby he is a dependent all star caliber player like Klay. I think SAS starts with KJ + Sochan + ATL picks.
    That's too much; the Atlanta 25 is completely off limits and even with Lauri here I still don't want to punt on Sochan unless it means I get to keep the Spurs 26 or Atlanta 27 pick, as Jeremy still has the potential to become a pretty good defensive player in this league. I assume Ainge would rather have the pick.

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    Most I would do, assuming Lauri commits to an extension:

    Keldon + CHI Pick + MIN 31 + MIN 30 Swap + DAL Swap + 2027 Spurs top 10 protected

    Something like that.

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    Just as a hypothetical question, let's suppose that KAT were available and the wolves are imploding

    How much in draft capital would you be willing to pay for KAT? Because what I keep hearing about KAT is that he's a loser on a bloated contract that's not really worth trading for because he can't play defense, while he's on a 4/220 contract starting next year while Markannen will be looking for a 4/212 contract after next year

    By most measures KAT has been the superior player to Markannen for their entire career. KAT has an argument to be as a good a 3 point shooter as Markannen. Is it the higher volume of 3s and the 3 year age difference that makes Markannen a superior hypothetical target? Just trying to get some perspective.
    A really good comparison that I have never thought of. Towns is kinda in his prime now and has been surpassed by Ant as the best player. Plus Gobert proved he is more valuable to the Twolves than Towns is now. I think Lauri game goes with more teams. He can play spot minutes at the 3 as well if for some reason you need to go really big. Lauri shot is quicker. Towns more skilled.





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    Just for perspective, I think the other thing people have forgotten is that Utah was predicted to be possibly the worst team in the league after trading Gobert and Mitc , to be unabashedly tanking, and to have the lead on a chance to land Wembanyama... Lauri, as their undisputed leading impact player, led them to a very surprising 37-45 record after most pundits had predicted they'd be challenging for dead last and have a record more along the lines of the Spurs, Rockets, or Pistons, who finished with 22, 22, and 17 wins that year.

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    Most I would do, assuming Lauri commits to an extension:

    Keldon + CHI Pick + MIN 31 + MIN 30 Swap + DAL Swap + 2027 Spurs top 10 protected

    Something like that.
    Even that’s a lot of the long-term flexibility I’d prefer to keep (that Dallas swap could be valuable). I might just prefer to wait for him to hit free agency, even if that’s uncertain.

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    The real prize is in 2028, when Ant request a trade. The Spurs call, 'we have your picks.'
    Ainge calls and says "we have your more immediate picks". in' Ainge, man.

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    Most I would do, assuming Lauri commits to an extension:

    Keldon + CHI Pick + MIN 31 + MIN 30 Swap + DAL Swap + 2027 Spurs top 10 protected

    Something like that.
    Another reminder, you cannot trade other team's swaps. What you propose would have to be:

    Keldon + CHI Pick + MIN 31 + SA30 (with MIN & DAL swaps attached) + SA27 (Top10). This might be what you meant, but just wanted to clarify for all readers.

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    The real prize is in 2028, when Ant request a trade. The Spurs call, 'we have your picks.'
    Even if San Antonio isn’t the Ant destination, the Spurs would have insane leverage at this point in time to extract a king’s ransom in a deal. Or they could simply stand pat.

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    Well I hope we hear something tomorrow. For me the thought of CP, Lauri, Vassell, Wemby, and perhaps Castle for his D sounds good to me.

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    Another reminder, you cannot trade other team's swaps. What you propose would have to be:

    Keldon + CHI Pick + MIN 31 + SA30 (with MIN & DAL swaps attached) + SA27 (Top10). This might be what you meant, but just wanted to clarify for all readers.
    Ya - just meant the “function”

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    My gut is telling me it’s between Spurs and Okc. Who’s got the balls to step up and pay Ainge’s fee?

    In terms of players can we beat:

    Topic (perfect pg for Utah)
    Wallace (3&D guard)
    Dieng (GLeague Finals MVP / Tidjane Clone)

    ???

    is Keldon, Wesley, Branham comparable? I would hate to give up Sochan!

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