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    Pickswap in 2032
    That’s in seven drafts. Not dissimilar from a point of career for Wemby as it would be for someone like Tatum’s Celtics lucking into a pick swap this year.

    It’s a product of a front office that doesn’t have to worry about getting fired every six months, and lets them play the long game when very few other GMs have that la ude. Think about the Ravens/Patriots front office in the NFL over past decade, or Chiefs/Eagles more recently. This is even more of a long game that will pay massive dividends when Wemby is in his prime.

    You add these every damn time if it’s available to you. Especially from historically dysfunctional franchises like the Kings and Wolves.

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    That’s in seven drafts. Not dissimilar from a point of career for Wemby as it would be for someone like Tatum’s Celtics lucking into a pick swap this year.

    It’s a product of a front office that doesn’t have to worry about getting fired every six months, and lets them play the long game when very few other GMs have that la ude. Think about the Ravens/Patriots front office in the NFL over past decade, or Chiefs/Eagles more recently. This is even more of a long game that will pay massive dividends when Wemby is in his prime.

    You add these every damn time if it’s available to you. Especially from historically dysfunctional franchises like the Kings and Wolves.
    I hate that you even had to educate / explain to any of us so called fans but here we are. Thanks

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    I like this trade, Barns doesn't necessarily improve the overall talent on the team but he does improve the overall roster make up, improving the IQ and a fitting vet player for a Wemby lead offense. I do however share the concerns with those feeling that this is the FO saying they did something and are done. Wemby still needs an Allstars caliber sidekick and anything less will just keep this team in the middle of the pack no matter how great Wemby becomes.

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    I dno if they can manage to unload Wesley or branham or something but if they can manage to retain Champagnies current contract in all this, that would be a solid W.

    Shampenny isn’t special but his contract is quite nice

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    This would just be dumb, and I legit don't understand this at ude. He was really good in 2022-2023 and clearly was thrown off last year and his confidence suffered. It's just a nonsense take. He's not making that much and is the only backup we have at that position.

    Is he a longterm solution? No. Is there any factual or basketball basis to wanting to get rid of him? No, it's just kneejerk nonsense.
    Don’t be dim, he was absolutely dog and that was a brain dead contract the Spurs handed out. He was easily one of our worst players when he’s on the floor. We desperately need a big to replace him because he was horrific

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    I wouldn't take him for the same money. He doesn't play a wisp of defense, refuses to take three pointers and dominates the ball.

    The worst part is that he doesn't specifically do anything wrong, per se. He's a good guy. So he poisons your young players. They all learn from him. Then they all do the same stupid . Dejounte did the same stuff, dribbling the clock down for himself.
    LMAO nailed it!

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    Don’t be dim, he was absolutely dog and that was a brain dead contract the Spurs handed out. He was easily one of our worst players when he’s on the floor. We desperately need a big to replace him because he was horrific
    Nah, you're just being an idiot. I mean, just on the fact that we need a backup big alone makes you wrong.

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    As usual, people are viewing the rotation as too black and white. Even though Sochan and Barnes will start together, they will sop up most of the PF minutes. Johnson will sub in for one (probably Barnes because the second unit needs his shooting) around mid quarter 1st and 3rd, then they'll mostly alternate before a closing (non blowout) lineup is determined.

    Branham is the automatic, he's ing useless.
    Wesley and Cissoko are even more useless though and Bassey's usefulness is in question because of his injuries.

    I suspect they still view Branham as a legitimate prospect.

    I don't know why people think Champagnie is in danger.

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    As usual, people are viewing the rotation as too black and white. Sochan and Barnes will sop up most of the PF minutes, even though they'll start together. Johnson will sub in for one (probably Barnes because the second unit needs his shooting) around mid quarter 1st and 3rd, then they'll mostly alternate before a closing (non blowout) lineup is decided.



    Wesley and Cissoko are even more useless though and Bassey's usefulness is in question because of his injuries.

    I suspect they still view Branham as a legitimate prospect.

    I don't know why people think Champagnie is in danger.
    IMO Blake Wesley would be the first gone, but he's on a guarantee and so cutting him doesn't clear any cap space. Cissoko doesn't look great but is in the same boat - doesn't help with cap space, and using assets to dump them would be tragic.

    Branham still has potential, but has to show that he can be on the floor this year.

    Guessing Bassey is cut due to his inability to stay healthy, sadly.

    I don't really know how much cap needs to be cleared, but this leaves Mamu or Champ, I think, with at least one of them having to go. I'd think the team would like to keep them, but choices have to be made to get CP on.

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    Seems obvious that one, if not both, of the SRPs going to CHI are from SAS. Since we apparently have no clue how to properly use FRPs anyway, it doesn't really matter.

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    IMO Blake Wesley would be the first gone, but he's on a guarantee and so cutting him doesn't clear any cap space. Cissoko doesn't look great but is in the same boat - doesn't help with cap space, and using assets to dump them would be tragic.

    Branham still has potential, but has to show that he can be on the floor this year.

    Guessing Bassey is cut due to his inability to stay healthy, sadly.

    I don't really know how much cap needs to be cleared, but this leaves Mamu or Champ, I think, with at least one of them having to go. I'd think the team would like to keep them, but choices have to be made to get CP on.
    It shouldn't take much in the way of draft capital and maybe cash to dump them.

    Not to the point where they'd value that over retaining Champagnie or Branham (yes, the advanced stats are terrible; I'm speaking from what I suspect to be their perspective).

    If Bassey is waived and clears, I believe he can be re-signed.

    Mamukelashvili wouldn't have much of a role again anyway.

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    Nah, you're just being an idiot. I mean, just on the fact that we need a backup big alone makes you wrong.
    So we need no back up bigs? So Wemby will play 48 minutes a game? Sochan at C? No wonder you get clown on this forum constantly with these dumbass takes.

    Collins is an absolute SIEVE defensively, absolutely not worth his contract. One of the worst players on the floor for the squad with the worst 5 man combinations.

    Again, try not to be dim, I feel bad when you get bullied on here but I can see why it happens.

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    It shouldn't take much in the way of draft capital and maybe cash to dump them.

    Not to the point where they'd value that over retaining Champagnie or Branham (yes, the advanced stats are terrible; I'm speaking from what I suspect to be their perspective).

    If Bassey is waived and clears, I believe he can be re-signed.

    Mamukelashvili wouldn't have much of a role again anyway.
    I really don't know the waive-and-clear rules. If they can pull the players back, then there's no real issue here. Champ and Bassey are great bench guys.

    I do think the team remains positive on Branham, certainly more than general thought here.

    Osman will find more PT elsewhere.

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    So we need no back up bigs? So Wemby will play 48 minutes a game? Sochan at C? No wonder you get clown on this forum constantly with these dumbass takes.
    Lol, this is what I said. Do you not know how to read? Even if Collins has another off year we need him as a backup big. WTF just learn how to read as a very basic.

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    It's a good move, another vet to teach the kids what to do and when to do it. Nice use of cap space. The 2nd year isn't great, but can be managed

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    My gut says that Mamu will be back based on nothing but the way he and Vic vibe. That’s enough for me tbh.

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    BTW, this trade, as reported, isn't legal CBA wise:
    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84



    There must have a "touch" link between Spurs and Bulls. It could be a second round pick or Spurs could trade Bassey to Bulls.
    Thanks for the info.
    Id assumed that one of the 2nds to the Bulls is coming from the Spurs since those picks haven’t been specified. Also this is the exact type of situation where a very low value asset like the worst of 3/4 teams 2nd rd pick come into play, you have to give up some bona fide value rather than a fake pick (top 55 protected). I take this to also mean a pick swap is not actual value unless it eventually converts, so a 2nd rd swap that may disappear wouldn’t qualify.

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    Lol, this is what I said. Do you not know how to read? Even if Collins has another off year we need him as a backup big. WTF just learn how to read as a very basic.
    My friend you want to employ this guy:

    6.6 PPG • 4.3 RPG • 2.6 APG • 37.3 FG%* • 4.3 3PFG%* (not a typo) • -21.8 NETRTG • 30.1% on wide open shots year (defender 6+ ft away) • Allowing 63.3 FG% to players who have attempted 5+ shots vs him this year

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    I’d much rather have Barnes than Derozan. This was an all-around win for the Spurs.

    I think the Kings could be a team the Spurs leapfrog next year. Vivek can’t help himself with these stupid decisions.

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    i find it really vomit inducing, how underrated champ is by the spurs fans.
    It’s insane, 22y/o, good size (6’7” shoes, 6’9.5” wingspan), avg shooter, durable (played 67/72 games once he got the job, started 59), locked in for 3 yrs non guaranteed, where final yr may be adjust up as under min.
    Dudes in the 10 man rotation for nearly every team, rostered by everyone at his current level & sometimes 22y/o get better, esp on non-tanking teams. Dude has actual value on the K & age alone

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    Its definitely not earth shattering but spurs filled some depth without giving up much of anything. Cant really be mad about this particular deal even if barnes is finished as a starter

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    Hopefully the Bulls pick conveys in '26 or '27 tbh.

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    It’s insane, 22y/o, good size (6’7” shoes, 6’9.5” wingspan), avg shooter, durable (played 67/72 games once he got the job, started 59), locked in for 3 yrs non guaranteed, where final yr may be adjust up as under min.
    Dudes in the 10 man rotation for nearly every team, rostered by everyone at his current level & sometimes 22y/o get better, esp on non-tanking teams. Dude has actual value on the K & age alone
    Champ may have a relatively low ceiling, but his floor isn't that bad. In fact, I'd venture to say that even today his floor is above Sochan's floor, but Sochan's ceiling is much higher.

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