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I'll stand up for my man Chinook. He and I don't always agree, but he always spells out the reasoning behind his positions and I appreciate that. Wish more people did, tbqh
That's where I'm leaning too for his inside game but his missed shots could be nervousness, he's been very emotional, maybe too much during the games, imo he needs to be more in control to get loose
I'll stand up for my man Chinook. He and I don't always agree, but he always spells out the reasoning behind his positions and I appreciate that. Wish more people did, tbqh
In a way, I get it. If you think of ST as basically co-workers shooting the in a breakroom, then someone sliding in there tossing out long-ass responses for why your opinion is wrong, it can come across as that person "doing the most" as some would say. A lot of people don't give their opinions with the intention to defend it. They kind of want to just say their piece and go back to work. And if someone is handing them a book report challenging what they consider to be an intuitive or consensus stance, it feels condescending or obnoxious. Of course there are some of us who want to put a bit more effort in and don't mind getting into the weeds or fending off multiple posters at the same time. I think ST has space for both, but it can be jarring for those high-engagement and low-engagement posters to disagree.
I think there's something said about butting heads with someone so frequently and intensely that you get a sense of each other's lines and views and can sort of appreciate where you agree and disagree. Despite Teeds' comments, I would 100-percent put him in that category, along with DAFfy. I think you and I gas each other up so much that folks might forget the debates we had during last season. But it's fun, man. What's the point of having folks hang around a message board for a decade or two if we aren't going to get into it every once in a while?
That went out the window signing CP3 and trading for Barnes. Spurs are probably a 35 win team, maybe a chance for 40 wins barring crap injury luck.
Absolutely. My favorite corners of this site are when we get into very detailed, elaborate discussions or in the weeds about advanced stats or the theory of trade valuation, etc. But there's also fun in some simple banter.
Other than the overt racist, misogynistic or phobic screeds that occasionally pop up, and telling each other to kill themselves, I personally get a lot of enjoyment out of just talking Spurs with fellow Spurs fans. , even exstatic, who I give a lot of to, I really appreciate and value. We all have our quirks, and aside from those few things I mentioned to start this paragraph I'm not sure why anyone gets too worked up about any of it.
While I'm not saying you are wrong... I will point out that there was a time after we drafted Wemby when we all thought we'd be a 35 win team
Which makes his bad takes all the more funny, tbh.
That's exactly what I wanted to say, but my second language speaking ass wouldn't let me.
I disagree with Chinook a lot, but I respect the thought he puts into his takes, and he always argues in good faith.
People get all sensitive when they get called out around here. I know I've certainly been guilty of it.That's exactly what I wanted to say, but my second language speaking ass wouldn't let me.
I disagree with Chinook a lot, but I respect the thought he puts into his takes, and he always argues in good faith.
End of the day, this board is for discussion and different viewpoints. Different viewpoints don't always blend well but we all share a common interest (for the most part) and that's the Spurs and basketball, in general.
u should pm each other ur personal social media or phone numbers........dont want to regret missing out on a friendship........we are all getting older one day some of us will stop posting & other members will never know what happened to them........
Might have been close if Pop didn't go re with Point Sochan and Point Bran Ham.While I'm not saying you are wrong... I will point out that there was a time after we drafted Wemby when we all thought we'd be a 35 win team
I was about to say
CP3 is older; Barnes is an upgrade over Champagnie and Cedi but I don’t see him making a huge change. I think that Vassel, Collins, Sochan, Wesley, Malaki and Tre won’t improve and I feel that Wemby won’t be much better on the offensive end either. I think that if the Spurs are below 30% by mid season, CP3 gets traded to a contender and the Spurs will tank.
Part of what you have to look at is how much of an improvement is CP3 not only over Tre, but over Point Sochan and Point Bran Ham who wrecked this team's winning percentage before the new year last season. And CP3 is not going to have the same difficulty hitting Victor for lobs the way the ballhandlers did last season. CP3 even only playing say 26 minutes a game should be a pretty decent upgrade for this team. And Barnes is low-end starting level, not poverty level bench that hurts your offense like Champagnie does. It's not so much that I think so highly of 40 year old CP3 and 33 year old Barnes, it's what they replace that was horrible. No more point Branham backing Tre up, now it's a competent PG in Tre backing up another competent PG in CP3. And I don't buy that Wemby's not going to take good steps forward offensively after we saw the leaps he made last season. Especially now that he'll be playing most of his minutes with a real PG on the floor (once again, assuming reasonable health for CP3 and Tre).
Without the additions of CP3 and Barnes, the Spurs would have still probably won around 35 games just by playing the right lineups and Wemby more.
I do feel like Spurs fans more than most fanbases should be able to appreciate this version of the USANT. The idea of three old guys showing they still had what it takes to reach the mountaintop. It gives me 2014 vibes. No, they don't have that "Beautiful Game" chemistry, but there's a level of poignancy in seeing old masters at work one last time. I've talked before about how there's a wound in the NBA from the 2010-2015 drafts being so ty. We're seeing that now with the 2028 version of this team projecting to be so much more limited. Perhaps there will be some surprise members that fix those issues. But the NBA's upcoming lack of domestic superstars has never been more apparent.
Personally, I'm really glad to see these guys get to the gold medal match. I would've been happy to see Kawhi get there with them, though I'm elated that Derrick White gets a chance to compete after putting in his time with the USANT during less important off-seasons. I'm not the biggest Embiid fan, but I'm glad he got to give the middle finger to a French crowd that felt en led to his services just because their nation had colonized his nation. I'm glad to see how elated everyone was after the final buzzer. I'm happy to see a dude with a gray beard go out there and be the consensus best player in the tournament at basically 40 years old.
It's just cool, man. We're not going to see another Olympics like this for a long time.
Don't say that, Brazil is gonna call you a racist and "anti-sportsmanship", tbh.
You don't think a player can improve in 4 years? It's been 4 years since he last played in the NBA.
If Daniel Theis at the same height is able to play C in the NBA, why can't Yabusele play PF/C?
That's not racism, just his natural condescendance
French fans are booing Embiid bc the letter he sent to the president of France was published and spread all over social networks.
It should be easy to find it still today, in it he's claiming he feels french, has always loved the country and basically begging to get the citizenship
Him and his camp asked for months to get a naturalisation and when he finally gets an exceptionally fast answer for those requests thx to Macron, he just goes "yeah no I'm good, I'm an American after all"
Had he not done all this cinema, not only French fans wouldn't have booed him but most probably supported him bc he's a francophone player
He's just playing the victim and should be playing for Cameroon
Bro, all the matchups have been unfavorable for three games.^^ Being smart, that sounds too Collet for my taste. They must remain “racailles” and play with more intensity than the USA team.
As for the final, I'm afraid Embiid is a bad matchup for Victor, we'll need to be smart and put him in foul trouble
I also fear the "we have a silver medal, it's ok if we lose vs USA" effect
Sur un malentendu, everything's possible.
It's not racist. It's just not understanding the situation.
Embiid claimed French citizenship. Nobody asked him. He has family in France, but he has no connection with France. He asked for it out of personal interest. Furthermore, he wanted to be able to benefit from the well-known social advantages for him or for his family, even though he is as rich as Croesus. And then he changes his mind and decides to apply for another nationality, one that could give him a medal.
Embiid, if he was a man of honor, should have played for Cameroon first, then eventually played for France because he was the one who requested it (and a lot were against).
There is no hatred or contempt when he is whistled. The French public is good-natured and very mocking. It's a bit of trash talk from the crowd, and frankly, it's completely deserved for a man who has neither values nor honor. His choice for the USA will be all the better if he allows team USA to lose by playing personally, as he has been doing since the start of the compe ion. As talented as he may be, he is poison. Good luck to team USA handling the boy.
While Monsieur Embiid can appreciate the effectiveness of the French administration in giving him nationality, migrants from Cameroon are suffering mistreatment, dying in the Mediterranean, in Libya, sleeping in the streets of Paris, and have been pushed out of the capital so that Monsieur Embiid can come and play for the Olympics, and suffer daily racism or, worse, ins utional racism.
I've been mostly meh on the Olympic Basketball Tournament, but the semi-finals sure delivered.
First we get a tense, defensive-minded and offensively challenged game between France and Germany with some fine individual moments and a lot of headscratching ones on both sides. Collet's rotations felt weird and it seemed like he still didn't quite know (in the semi-final, no less) who to play and which lineups to use.
Then we get another nail-biter and the offensive fireworks between Serbia and the US. By the way, I would agree that LeBron has been USA's best player in this tournament - at the very least, the most important and most consistent.
I struck a nerve tbh...
As for Embiid Chinook is cute, Embiid said he does not feel American and basically does not give a about team USA... but yeah he will give us the middle finger
but Cameroon is not qualified
"Condescending" is to assume I don't know the surface level answer to a question. There's a solid French representation on this forum. A lot of you are great posters, but you guys aren't the sole source I have for FNT team news to leak in. RGM also has a large population of posters from France and who follow FIBA more consistently. They were pretty active talking about it when it happened.
I know about the FNT . Otherwise I would've been utterly confused by the boos rather than criticizing the imperialist bent that they have. I admit that comes from an American perspective where we have citizens play for other national teams all the time. (And we DEFINITELY have guys commit and then back out.) Becky played for Russia. Do you know who's mad about that? Certain assholes and that's it. Embiid has lived a colorful life, but his personal views on iden y and citizenship may be more complicated than the average American or French person has experienced. I wouldn't presume to say he lied on his quest for French citizenship even though he obviously could have.
"But when decided to play for the USANT, who didn't need him." Like the FNT doesn't also have a ton of talent, especially at center. I bristle at the idea trying to force him to consider Cameroon his home. I don't think he should've played for them if he didn't want to. It doesn't seem like the FNT is therefore any more of a "noble" decision than the USANT would've been. If Teeds likens signing up with the USANT as starting on the two-yard line, the FNT is starting at the 10-yard line. Most would've expected the USA to make the gold medal match without him, and France did make it without him. Neither side was the "do it the hard way" option.
I think this is more the heart of the cringe for me. Embiid is not "francophone" because he's French. He's not "francophone" because he moved to France and got infused with the culture. He's not "francophone" because Cameroon and France are sister nations with cultural exchange. He's "francophone" because his nation was colonized by France and is still forced into an exploitative economic relationship with France under penalty of military intervention. No, I don't hold average French people responsible for that. I have no issue with French people and actually like a lot of the music and media coming out of the country nowadays. But in terms of what the government and state department did and continues to do in the "francophone" world, it's just a down-low version of what the US does all around the world. It's just as heinous and self-serving, and the feelings of the people getting exploited toward the dominant cultures are just as complicated and varied.Had he not done all this cinema, not only French fans wouldn't have booed him but most probably supported him bc he's a francophone player
I don't know how every French person or French STer feels about their country's imperialist actions throughout the world. Doubtless they have insights and nuances into it that I don't. I have to believe a lot of folks in that crowd booing are aware of the situation and even sympathetic. But dogging guy from a neo-colonized region for waffling about his French culture before deciding to play for the country he's lived in since he was a teenager is peak. Feeling betrayed because a guy decided to join the other stacked team in the tournament is cringe. Booing a person constantly in the Olympics is peak cringe. It's all cringe , and I'm glad Embiid was able to shake it off and play well the last couple of games.
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