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    ”Condescending" is to assume I don't know the surface level answer to a question. There's a solid French representation on this forum. A lot of you are great posters, but you guys aren't the sole source I have for FNT team news to leak in. RGM also has a large population of posters from France and who follow FIBA more consistently. They were pretty active talking about it when it happened.

    I know about the FNT . Otherwise I would've been utterly confused by the boos rather than criticizing the imperialist bent that they have. I admit that comes from an American perspective where we have citizens play for other national teams all the time. (And we DEFINITELY have guys commit and then back out.) Becky played for Russia. Do you know who's mad about that? Certain assholes and that's it. Embiid has lived a colorful life, but his personal views on iden y and citizenship may be more complicated than the average American or French person has experienced. I wouldn't presume to say he lied on his quest for French citizenship even though he obviously could have.

    "But when decided to play for the USANT, who didn't need him." Like the FNT doesn't also have a ton of talent, especially at center. I bristle at the idea trying to force him to consider Cameroon his home. I don't think he should've played for them if he didn't want to. It doesn't seem like the FNT is therefore any more of a "noble" decision than the USANT would've been. If Teeds likens signing up with the USANT as starting on the two-yard line, the FNT is starting at the 10-yard line. Most would've expected the USA to make the gold medal match without him, and France did make it without him. Neither side was the "do it the hard way" option.



    I think this is more the heart of the cringe for me. Embiid is not "francophone" because he's French. He's not "francophone" because he moved to France and got infused with the culture. He's not "francophone" because Cameroon and France are sister nations with cultural exchange. He's "francophone" because his nation was colonized by France and is still forced into an exploitative economic relationship with France under penalty of military intervention. No, I don't hold average French people responsible for that. I have no issue with French people and actually like a lot of the music and media coming out of the country nowadays. But in terms of what the government and state department did and continues to do in the "francophone" world, it's just a down-low version of what the US does all around the world. It's just as heinous and self-serving, and the feelings of the people getting exploited toward the dominant cultures are just as complicated and varied.

    I don't know how every French person or French STer feels about their country's imperialist actions throughout the world. Doubtless they have insights and nuances into it that I don't. I have to believe a lot of folks in that crowd booing are aware of the situation and even sympathetic. But dogging guy from a neo-colonized region for waffling about his French culture before deciding to play for the country he's lived in since he was a teenager is peak. Feeling betrayed because a guy decided to join the other stacked team in the tournament is cringe. Booing a person constantly in the Olympics is peak cringe. It's all cringe , and I'm glad Embiid was able to shake it off and play well the last couple of games.
    Sorry to say it, but you say a lot of nonsense regarding the perception of “Francophones” in the world or regarding so-called French imperialism. French state colonialism in reality only concerns Caledonia which is a French territory but where there are still hints of colonialism (talking about “imperialism” for France does not make much sense, it is no longer an empire for a long time).

    The relationship with African countries is specific to each one. Historically, there are territories (which have become countries since their independence) which were exploited for their resources and there is a territory (Algeria) which was a colonial land. If certain colonial relations persist between France and certain African countries, it is mainly economic where corruption allows large French companies to exploit the countries' resources. The French state has long participated in this, but fortunately, the situation is tending to improve. But this is the economic situation which partly explains why certain former colonized countries have never known or been able to develop democratic systems.

    Alongside these political problems, there are cultural relations. And at this level, in the same way as Quebec or Lebanon, it is not a colonial relationship, but a cultural relationship linked to the French-speaking. Speaking the same language creates proximity. This does not make French speakers French: have we ever seen Quebecers claiming French nationality? No. We just love our language, like others love the diversity in English languages ​​or in languages.

    No one in France has ever claimed that Embiid was more likely to play for the FNT because he was French-speaking. He is Cameroonian, his first vocation would have been to play for Cameroon. He left the country when he was a teenager and plays for the country that welcomed him, it's natural that he decides to play for it and asks to play for the USA. If he is whistled, it is not because he refused to play for France or because he disappointed us, he is whistled because he is ridiculous. The public laughs at him. He doesn't ask for anything from her. He would be Cameroonian-French, he would know this French taste for making fun of clowns, for a form of teasing. I remember that he was even mocked by his own Team USA teammates by asking him to “give back his passport”, proof that teasing clowns is not specific to French culture.

    Another possible proximity is the African roots of many French people. There are many of us in this case, and it is above all a form of pride when it is not in everyday life a scandalous reason for racism. Because, as the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games proved, the French spirit is diversity. The best-selling French-speaking singer in the world is African and sang with the Republican Guard in front of the Académie Française, a centuries-old ins ution dedicated to the preservation of the French language. This is a diversity symbol. Embiid has nothing to do with this because he is not Franco-Cameroonian (except through his passport), but American-Cameroonian. He does not have this shared culture that some members of his family living in France have, certainly.

    Parker was French because he grew up in France. Tarpey arrived in France as a minor American player and took a liking to reconnecting with his French roots. Kenny Atkinson played and coached in France, he is a Francophile and French-speaking American, and that largely explains his choice to assist Vincent Collet. Gabby Williams has French grandparents and speaks French perfectly, and has always wished for the French team. Embiid is far from these “international” profiles, choosing to play for France. He is an opportunist, an individualist, and in this, we can say that he is fundamentally American, and the USA should be proud that he carries US values ​​so well. USA like wall; France prefers bridges to cultures.

    There is something quite tasty about seeing yourself given lessons in imperialism by an American. Stop believing that all nations are destined to develop an empire like the USA. France has not had an empire for a long time, on the other hand, it is a culture, and a language, of which we are all proud because it conveys ideas of diversity. Ultimately the complete opposite of imperialism.

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    "Condescending" is to assume I don't know the surface level answer to a question. There's a solid French representation on this forum. A lot of you are great posters, but you guys aren't the sole source I have for FNT team news to leak in. RGM also has a large population of posters from France and who follow FIBA more consistently. They were pretty active talking about it when it happened.

    I know about the FNT . Otherwise I would've been utterly confused by the boos rather than criticizing the imperialist bent that they have. I admit that comes from an American perspective where we have citizens play for other national teams all the time. (And we DEFINITELY have guys commit and then back out.) Becky played for Russia. Do you know who's mad about that? Certain assholes and that's it. Embiid has lived a colorful life, but his personal views on iden y and citizenship may be more complicated than the average American or French person has experienced. I wouldn't presume to say he lied on his quest for French citizenship even though he obviously could have.

    "But when decided to play for the USANT, who didn't need him." Like the FNT doesn't also have a ton of talent, especially at center. I bristle at the idea trying to force him to consider Cameroon his home. I don't think he should've played for them if he didn't want to. It doesn't seem like the FNT is therefore any more of a "noble" decision than the USANT would've been. If Teeds likens signing up with the USANT as starting on the two-yard line, the FNT is starting at the 10-yard line. Most would've expected the USA to make the gold medal match without him, and France did make it without him. Neither side was the "do it the hard way" option.



    I think this is more the heart of the cringe for me. Embiid is not "francophone" because he's French. He's not "francophone" because he moved to France and got infused with the culture. He's not "francophone" because Cameroon and France are sister nations with cultural exchange. He's "francophone" because his nation was colonized by France and is still forced into an exploitative economic relationship with France under penalty of military intervention. No, I don't hold average French people responsible for that. I have no issue with French people and actually like a lot of the music and media coming out of the country nowadays. But in terms of what the government and state department did and continues to do in the "francophone" world, it's just a down-low version of what the US does all around the world. It's just as heinous and self-serving, and the feelings of the people getting exploited toward the dominant cultures are just as complicated and varied.

    I don't know how every French person or French STer feels about their country's imperialist actions throughout the world. Doubtless they have insights and nuances into it that I don't. I have to believe a lot of folks in that crowd booing are aware of the situation and even sympathetic. But dogging guy from a neo-colonized region for waffling about his French culture before deciding to play for the country he's lived in since he was a teenager is peak. Feeling betrayed because a guy decided to join the other stacked team in the tournament is cringe. Booing a person constantly in the Olympics is peak cringe. It's all cringe , and I'm glad Embiid was able to shake it off and play well the last couple of games.
    You're one self-righteous chap, aren't you.

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    So where did Joel grow up when he was young? Did he spend some time in France as a youth?

    Also, what time are the Gold and Bronze medal games?

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    Sorry to say it, but you say a lot of nonsense regarding the perception of “Francophones” in the world or regarding so-called French imperialism. French state colonialism in reality only concerns Caledonia which is a French territory but where there are still hints of colonialism (talking about “imperialism” for France does not make much sense, it is no longer an empire for a long time).

    The relationship with African countries is specific to each one. Historically, there are territories (which have become countries since their independence) which were exploited for their resources and there is a territory (Algeria) which was a colonial land. If certain colonial relations persist between France and certain African countries, it is mainly economic where corruption allows large French companies to exploit the countries' resources. The French state has long participated in this, but fortunately, the situation is tending to improve. But this is the economic situation which partly explains why certain former colonized countries have never known or been able to develop democratic systems.

    Alongside these political problems, there are cultural relations. And at this level, in the same way as Quebec or Lebanon, it is not a colonial relationship, but a cultural relationship linked to the French-speaking. Speaking the same language creates proximity. This does not make French speakers French: have we ever seen Quebecers claiming French nationality? No. We just love our language, like others love the diversity in English languages ​​or in languages.

    No one in France has ever claimed that Embiid was more likely to play for the FNT because he was French-speaking. He is Cameroonian, his first vocation would have been to play for Cameroon. He left the country when he was a teenager and plays for the country that welcomed him, it's natural that he decides to play for it and asks to play for the USA. If he is whistled, it is not because he refused to play for France or because he disappointed us, he is whistled because he is ridiculous. The public laughs at him. He doesn't ask for anything from her. He would be Cameroonian-French, he would know this French taste for making fun of clowns, for a form of teasing. I remember that he was even mocked by his own Team USA teammates by asking him to “give back his passport”, proof that teasing clowns is not specific to French culture.

    Another possible proximity is the African roots of many French people. There are many of us in this case, and it is above all a form of pride when it is not in everyday life a scandalous reason for racism. Because, as the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games proved, the French spirit is diversity. The best-selling French-speaking singer in the world is African and sang with the Republican Guard in front of the Académie Française, a centuries-old ins ution dedicated to the preservation of the French language. This is a diversity symbol. Embiid has nothing to do with this because he is not Franco-Cameroonian (except through his passport), but American-Cameroonian. He does not have this shared culture that some members of his family living in France have, certainly.

    Parker was French because he grew up in France. Tarpey arrived in France as a minor American player and took a liking to reconnecting with his French roots. Kenny Atkinson played and coached in France, he is a Francophile and French-speaking American, and that largely explains his choice to assist Vincent Collet. Gabby Williams has French grandparents and speaks French perfectly, and has always wished for the French team. Embiid is far from these “international” profiles, choosing to play for France. He is an opportunist, an individualist, and in this, we can say that he is fundamentally American, and the USA should be proud that he carries US values ​​so well. USA like wall; France prefers bridges to cultures.

    There is something quite tasty about seeing yourself given lessons in imperialism by an American. Stop believing that all nations are destined to develop an empire like the USA. France has not had an empire for a long time, on the other hand, it is a culture, and a language, of which we are all proud because it conveys ideas of diversity. Ultimately the complete opposite of imperialism.
    And this is why nobody likes Frenchies. Your screed and history re-write is obnoxious at best. Now tell us why there is no such thing as "African-French" like there is "African-American". Hint: because French people hate blacks even though they occupied their countries for decades

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    France has not had an empire for a long time, on the other hand, it is a culture, and a language, of which we are all proud because it conveys ideas of diversity.
    this has to be the stupidest thing I ever read on this board. French people are some of the most racist people on this planet, it's not even really a debate.

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    Sorry to say it, but you say a lot of nonsense regarding the perception of “Francophones” in the world or regarding so-called French imperialism. French state colonialism in reality only concerns Caledonia which is a French territory but where there are still hints of colonialism (talking about “imperialism” for France does not make much sense, it is no longer an empire for a long time)

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    There is something quite tasty about seeing yourself given lessons in imperialism by an American. Stop believing that all nations are destined to develop an empire like the USA. France has not had an empire for a long time, on the other hand, it is a culture, and a language, of which we are all proud because it conveys ideas of diversity. Ultimately the complete opposite of imperialism.
    Oh wow, so you DON'T know what your country does overseas. You really do think France is just "friends" with all these poor third-world countries and that their shared language is a sign of brotherhood and not the mark of their oppression. Why is French the educated language of these nations? Why is English the lingua franca of the world? The answer is not that those languages are so great that everyone wants to preserve them.

    And yes, the US also has black people in high-culture positions. , a person of South-Asian/African descent might be the next president. The current UK PM is of Afro-Indian descent. None of that means those countries don't do imperialist or that the fact that so much talent from other nations flocks to them is a happy accident.

    If you seriously believe the things you wrote, it's a sign that France is far more successful in selling the US's beard status to its people to cover up its own issues than I realized. France is a top-five most imperialist nation on the planet. Not in the past. Literally right now. I'm not even getting into their habit of claiming far-off territories as being part of their country. That's old imperialism and only some nations like Russia are playing that game at the moment. I'm talking about neo-colonialism, the type of military adventurism, exploitative trade deals and "masters of the universe" the US uses to control the world. If you don't know that your country is one of the biggest players of that game, you haven't looked into French foreign policy very deeply.

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    In a way, I get it. If you think of ST as basically co-workers shooting the in a breakroom, then someone sliding in there tossing out long-ass responses for why your opinion is wrong, it can come across as that person "doing the most" as some would say. A lot of people don't give their opinions with the intention to defend it. They kind of want to just say their piece and go back to work. And if someone is handing them a book report challenging what they consider to be an intuitive or consensus stance, it feels condescending or obnoxious. Of course there are some of us who want to put a bit more effort in and don't mind getting into the weeds or fending off multiple posters at the same time. I think ST has space for both, but it can be jarring for those high-engagement and low-engagement posters to disagree.

    I think there's something said about butting heads with someone so frequently and intensely that you get a sense of each other's lines and views and can sort of appreciate where you agree and disagree. Despite Teeds' comments, I would 100-percent put him in that category, along with DAFfy. I think you and I gas each other up so much that folks might forget the debates we had during last season. But it's fun, man. What's the point of having folks hang around a message board for a decade or two if we aren't going to get into it every once in a while?
    This is all well and good, but whether you mean to or not, you absolutely come off that way . . . and so do I.

    I'll let you in on a little secret: It wasn't really intentional at first and oftentimes sarcasm either getting lost in translation or going bad, but at a certain point I decided I'd play into the perception because of how easy/fun it was to get a rise out of so many with something as harmless as an emoji (which I never use outside of here), repeating something that's proven to have them fly off the handle, dismissing their take or utilizing obscure words.

    Despite the perception, I don't take any of this nonsense seriously in terms of getting mad or being sensitive. If I didn't enjoy these debates, I wouldn't bother.


    I do feel like Spurs fans more than most fanbases should be able to appreciate this version of the USANT. The idea of three old guys showing they still had what it takes to reach the mountaintop. It gives me 2014 vibes. No, they don't have that "Beautiful Game" chemistry, but there's a level of poignancy in seeing old masters at work one last time. I've talked before about how there's a wound in the NBA from the 2010-2015 drafts being so ty. We're seeing that now with the 2028 version of this team projecting to be so much more limited. Perhaps there will be some surprise members that fix those issues. But the NBA's upcoming lack of domestic superstars has never been more apparent.

    Personally, I'm really glad to see these guys get to the gold medal match. I would've been happy to see Kawhi get there with them, though I'm elated that Derrick White gets a chance to compete after putting in his time with the USANT during less important off-seasons. I'm not the biggest Embiid fan, but I'm glad he got to give the middle finger to a French crowd that felt en led to his services just because their nation had colonized his nation. I'm glad to see how elated everyone was after the final buzzer. I'm happy to see a dude with a gray beard go out there and be the consensus best player in the tournament at basically 40 years old.

    It's just cool, man. We're not going to see another Olympics like this for a long time.
    Sure they do, when they're surrounded by 9 other top (at worst) 40 players in the world, against teams who usually have 0-2 players capable of receiving consideration/making the U.S. team.

    I'm generally for the "one last ride" storyline, but these guys are the an hesis of the biggest three in terms of likability.

    I don't get the S bag line and was going to excoriate you for the Embiid one, but I see Pauleta14 beat me to the punch and you're now knee deep with some of the French posters, so I'll leave you to it.

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    If you had to point towards one thing...

    Serbia was 15/30 from three to finish the 3rd quarter.

    They finished the game 15/39.

    Couple that with an Embiid 7-0 run in the 4th, and Curry/KD/LeBron all going HAM down the stretch...that was basically the game.
    Saw it.
    Concur.

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    Bro, all the matchups have been unfavorable for three games.^^ Being smart, that sounds too Collet for my taste. They must remain “racailles” and play with more intensity than the USA team.

    Sur un malentendu, everything's possible.
    I agree we have to make it dirty af

    but realitically I see the US press our guards all the time and go early at Wemby to put him in foul trouble

    1 unrealistic scenario that would be hillarious would be Gobert having the game of his life

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    Oh wow, so you DON'T know what your country does overseas. You really do think France is just "friends" with all these poor third-world countries and that their shared language is a sign of brotherhood and not the mark of their oppression. Why is French the educated language of these nations? Why is English the lingua franca of the world? The answer is not that those languages are so great that everyone wants to preserve them.

    And yes, the US also has black people in high-culture positions. , a person of South-Asian/African descent might be the next president. The current UK PM is of Afro-Indian descent. None of that means those countries don't do imperialist or that the fact that so much talent from other nations flocks to them is a happy accident.

    If you seriously believe the things you wrote, it's a sign that France is far more successful in selling the US's beard status to its people to cover up its own issues than I realized. France is a top-five most imperialist nation on the planet. Not in the past. Literally right now. I'm not even getting into their habit of claiming far-off territories as being part of their country. That's old imperialism and only some nations like Russia are playing that game at the moment. I'm talking about neo-colonialism, the type of military adventurism, exploitative trade deals and "masters of the universe" the US uses to control the world. If you don't know that your country is one of the biggest players of that game, you haven't looked into French foreign policy very deeply.
    Smartest thing I've read in quite some time

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    but Cameroon is not qualified so instead of helping my birth country I prefer go to Paris in a 5 stars hotel
    He's such an idiot tbh

    He'd have been an African hero beyond Cameroon

    + Imagine his association with Siakam...

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    Incredible two semi final games. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. that USA-Serbia game delivered and more. On to the gold medal game.

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    This is all well and good, but whether you mean to or not, you absolutely come off that way . . . and so do I.
    Eh, what's condescending to a person depends on how they interpret what's being said. If I break something down to first principles and build the argument back up from there, sure, you can take that to mean I'm assuming you're stupid. Or you can take that to mean I'm putting in the effort to show the whole of my reasoning so you can determine where you disagree. Trying to dismiss a person's argument as condescending is a red herring. Of course if someone doesn't want to get into the weeds, I can understand their annoyance. That doesn't mean there's an issue that needs to be fixed. The Wemby rose to the point of being a genuine conspiracy theory. No, I don't feel the need to pull back on my firm dismissal of some of the lazier and weaker aspects of that conspiracy just because those pushing them didn't want to defend themselves.

    That doesn't mean that I don't care about when my posting style is criticized in good faith. That's happened, and I have adjusted. But being "condescending" or writing too long of posts are way too subjective.

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    "Condescending" is to assume I don't know the surface level answer to a question. There's a solid French representation on this forum. A lot of you are great posters, but you guys aren't the sole source I have for FNT team news to leak in. RGM also has a large population of posters from France and who follow FIBA more consistently. They were pretty active talking about it when it happened.

    I know about the FNT . Otherwise I would've been utterly confused by the boos rather than criticizing the imperialist bent that they have. I admit that comes from an American perspective where we have citizens play for other national teams all the time. (And we DEFINITELY have guys commit and then back out.) Becky played for Russia. Do you know who's mad about that? Certain assholes and that's it. Embiid has lived a colorful life, but his personal views on iden y and citizenship may be more complicated than the average American or French person has experienced. I wouldn't presume to say he lied on his quest for French citizenship even though he obviously could have.

    "But when decided to play for the USANT, who didn't need him." Like the FNT doesn't also have a ton of talent, especially at center. I bristle at the idea trying to force him to consider Cameroon his home. I don't think he should've played for them if he didn't want to. It doesn't seem like the FNT is therefore any more of a "noble" decision than the USANT would've been. If Teeds likens signing up with the USANT as starting on the two-yard line, the FNT is starting at the 10-yard line. Most would've expected the USA to make the gold medal match without him, and France did make it without him. Neither side was the "do it the hard way" option.



    I think this is more the heart of the cringe for me. Embiid is not "francophone" because he's French. He's not "francophone" because he moved to France and got infused with the culture. He's not "francophone" because Cameroon and France are sister nations with cultural exchange. He's "francophone" because his nation was colonized by France and is still forced into an exploitative economic relationship with France under penalty of military intervention. No, I don't hold average French people responsible for that. I have no issue with French people and actually like a lot of the music and media coming out of the country nowadays. But in terms of what the government and state department did and continues to do in the "francophone" world, it's just a down-low version of what the US does all around the world. It's just as heinous and self-serving, and the feelings of the people getting exploited toward the dominant cultures are just as complicated and varied.

    I don't know how every French person or French STer feels about their country's imperialist actions throughout the world. Doubtless they have insights and nuances into it that I don't. I have to believe a lot of folks in that crowd booing are aware of the situation and even sympathetic. But dogging guy from a neo-colonized region for waffling about his French culture before deciding to play for the country he's lived in since he was a teenager is peak. Feeling betrayed because a guy decided to join the other stacked team in the tournament is cringe. Booing a person constantly in the Olympics is peak cringe. It's all cringe , and I'm glad Embiid was able to shake it off and play well the last couple of games.
    You whole post is a collection of cliches and lack of knowledge of the situation and France's history. You should stick to NBA'S cba and contracts situations...

    By itself it speaks volume of the condescendance I've been talking about (thx for illustrating my point tbh )

    You clearly aren't aware of the letter Embiid sent to the president nor that France didn't ask him anything contrary to US who ACTIVELY recruited him. (France, as everyone can see didn't need him to start with)

    You don't seem to know much about the French ppl nor about its diversity or that France had former champions with both french and cameroon origins like Yannick Noah (father of Joakim and winner of Rolland Garros) or plenty of connections that lead hisorically to popular support for african francophone teams (maghreb or sub-saharian countries)

    You bring colonialist cliches when we're in 2024 (ffs just find an update) and the topic has nothing to do with politicians but with the people and specifically the Parisians

    FYI there's a world between the top and the bottom of the pyramid in France. Politicians don't represent the people much, it's a networking class that usually come from the same social background. So acting like the french ppl have a colonialistic culture is insanely stupid and sign of lack of knowledge on the topic

    I'm assuming you're american, aren't u? It's makes your post even more ironic considering the cliches you refer about France's past are litterally your country's present REALITY. That doesn't mean one should consider any US citizen or American culture or people as imperialists or war crimes appologists.

    You probably know the Hisory of your country well enough to understand how complex and nunace an analysis needs to be, don't you? Try apply that to the other countries and people then.

    As for the initial topic of discussion, whether you accept/understand it or not, there's litterally zero emotion feeding the french boos, zero hate, it's a massive collective troll job that comes from the football stadium culture (that clearly is stranger to u in the US) and more importantly A RESPONSE to Embiid's ridiculous behaviour.

    In french we say "when u want to kill your dog, you say it has rabies" = When u want to defend Embiid, you'll find any BS scenario that fits your goal

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    You whole post is a collection of cliches and lack of knowledge of the situation and France's history. You should stick to NBA'S cba and contracts situations...
    That you think this is just a matter of history and not current actions is a sign that you lack knowledge. I seriously thought American people were sheltered, but the posters here makes me think that their country might even be worse off in that regard.

    And yes, I'm American. My whole point is that France IS playing the same game the US is playing, just with fewer pieces. There's no gotcha on this. I'm saying they're both bad, right now, as in they're both currently doing imperialist right now. You seem to not know that, and it's concerning.

    In french we say "when u want to kill your dog, you say it has rabies" = When u want to defend Embiid, you'll find any BS scenario that fits your goal
    And no, I don't really like Embiid. He ended Danny Green's career with his stupid flopping. That crime would cut through any country or jersey. If the crowd was booing him for that, I'd be all for it.

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    So where did Joel grow up when he was young? Did he spend some time in France as a youth?

    Also, what time are the Gold and Bronze medal games?
    Just holidays and familly visits at best

    He has some of his (extended?) familly living in Paris's subburd

    He took a business decision and he has the right to but anyone witnessing can only laugh about the lack of authenticity

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    Smartest thing I've read in quite some time
    you aren't reading too much lately then

    Chinook explaining French geopolitics and culture to French people is quite hilarious... he must be an expert in international relations and have a doctorat in political science for sure

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    That you think this is just a matter of history and not current actions is a sign that you lack knowledge. I seriously thought American people were sheltered, but the posters here makes me think that their country might even be worse off in that regard.

    And yes, I'm American. My whole point is that France IS playing the same the US is playing. There's no gotcha on this. I'm saying they're both bad, right now, as in they're both currently doing imperialist right now. You seem to not know that, and it's concerning.
    That's just factually not true and I with others detailled you multiple times WHY...

    You can't see that on one side France never initiated anything and on the other the US recruited him...? Same thing for u?

    You can't understand the ppl's reaction when they had the opportunity to read the letter Embiid sent? (you need to read that, u clearly havent and it's a massive reason bc the form of the letter is either hillarious or pathetic)

    For someone who like to write looooonnng posts, one would think you appreciate nuance, but it's actually an illusion, you're over simplistic and fine enough with the little knowlwdge u have to speak on a topic with certainty.

    Not a sign of intelligence. Your lack of humility and overall condescending at ude makes you miss so many things, you'll always be stuck with an average IQ and wrong perception of the world

    Try read Descartes or maybe google "cogito ergo sum"

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    this has to be the stupidest thing I ever read on this board. French people are some of the most racist people on this planet, it's not even really a debate.
    not sure where this is coming from... a French ed your wife or something ?

    You have racists everywhere and certainly a good amount in France but some of the most racist people in this planet ? no

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    you aren't reading too much lately then

    Chinook explaining French geopolitics and culture to French people is quite hilarious... he must be an expert in international relations and have a doctorat in political science for sure
    It's funny, because I think you would probably find it perfectly viable for non-Americans to explain US foreign policy to Americans or Russian foreign policy to Russians. You know, because other nations have to deal with the foreign policy while the domestic population doesn't. I have to imagine there a ton of memes floating around about how little 'Muricans know about the world. That idea is out there despite the US government being all over the world in everyone's business. So do you think there's something unique to the US that makes their citizens prone to ignorance of what their government does abroad?

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    you aren't reading too much lately then

    Chinook explaining French geopolitics and culture to French people is quite hilarious... he must be an expert in international relations and have a doctorat in political science for sure
    He doesn't know much, but that's not the worst part, he's too condescending to better himself.

    My guess is that he "educates" himself with opinionated pieces/articles/podcasts etc

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    Eh, what's condescending to a person depends on how they interpret what's being said.

    But being "condescending" or writing too long of posts are way too subjective.
    Sure, but I'm talking more so about the perception and it's easy to see why.

    For example, if we created a poll asking whether you (or I) came off that way, I'm confident it'd be well above 50% for you and let's just say even higher for me.

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    That's just factually not true and I with others detailled you multiple times WHY...
    No, you didn't. You can some extremely fluffy answer about French culture. It would be like an American saying the US only spreads freedom and going on about the melting pot. It's cringe .

    You can't understand the ppl's reaction when they had the opportunity to read the letter Embiid sent?
    No, I can't understand why people would boo him repeatedly. I wouldn't care if I were them. The dude could've dressed himself in stars and stripes and made out with Biden during a press conference only to have decided to play for Canada. I wouldn't care at all.

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    He doesn't know much, but that's not the worst part, he's too condescending to better himself.

    My guess is that he "educates" himself with opinionated pieces/articles/podcasts etc
    I'm sure that "condescending" card is going to get tons of use. It's even nicer when you can use it to avoid having to examine anything you say.

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    And this is why nobody likes Frenchies. Your screed and history re-write is obnoxious at best. Now tell us why there is no such thing as "African-French" like there is "African-American". Hint: because French people hate blacks even though they occupied their countries for decades
    This has to be the most stupid thing I ever read on this board. You think that Americans like black people more because they call them African-Americans? What a dumb argument

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