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    This will get the russians attention and a load of their troops should be shifted.

    I do not see this as a major front but it could change. Putler probably see this as just a minor distraction.

    However, if the Ukrainians continue running wild and go unchecked in Kursk, putler will lose more than face from it.

    What I am not seeing is if the Ukrainians have sufficient air defenses to guard against heavy air bombing or if Patriots are nearby to make a difference.
    Seen indications I am wrong already. I thought they were going to pivot southeast, but they seem to have mined that direction, which is not something you do if you intend on moving that direction.

    Had some more time to look at the map, and it seems they have several axes and are going for a supply hub to the northwest and Russia's third largest nuclear power plant.

    They are digging in in some places.

    That the UKR command is tight-lipped says a lot: they still think they can manuever to get more ground.

    Heard indications that UKR is pulling some formations from elsewhere to reinforce.

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    This is bigger than I think a lot of people have glommed onto.

    I am reasonably sure they have committed at LEAST two full brigades, and as many as 8 to 10, given the amount of ground they have taken.

    the thugs of the russian empire's army are going to get destroyed as they move into positions. Their manuever is slow, clumsy and disjointed, and UKR has committed their best mechanized brigades.

    The only thing that will limit their advance is supplies, but given their prep for this, I think there is a very good chance they have allowed for that.

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    If the nuclear power plant is in Ukraine’s plans, they have to be very careful.
    I can see Russia blowing it up on their own; blaming Ukraine for radioactive material released.
    Taking or controlling the nuclear power plant and shutting the power of without incident would be HUGE however.
    Ukraine could theoretically scuttle the power production without danger and make it unusable. That power plant is apparently needed for a very large amount of power used in making industrial material. It also could be used for negotiations. but Russia would look so weak. I think Putin would rather just have it Blow up and send radioactive material everywhere. (Russia already put mines on the roads in some areas of possible Ukrainian advances on Kursk and Russian civilian vehicles trying to get out have apparently have run into them and blown up) “ thanks for the heads up guys. Nice of you to think about your own citizens”

    these are very preliminary points of view. It’s just this incursion has the potential to be very different from the slow meat grinding Putin prefers with his people. It’s a radical change in strategy forced on Russia. For US citizens worried about our tax dollars, YOU probably want the more fanciful view that the power plant gets taken BY UKRAINE , and Russia negotiates. A whole lot could go wrong with this so I’m skeptical.

    Aside:
    (also, for those US citizens worried about tax dollars, you should be more worried about the diabetic obesity drugs that are costing huge amounts of money in Medicare and privately. This is a very specific spending problem that could be addressed immediately)
    Have not seen the Trumpers in love with Russia put up any threads on this problem.
    This NPP is too close to moscow. russia may try something, but may just decide to give it up to avoid the risk.

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    Ukraine s.

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    You sure are sour that I post here, in this thread and others, but if I'm on "ignore" what's the problem tranny? You're a weird one but that was never up for debate.
    I seriously think you need psychological help.

    what you post here is not mentally healthy.

    Well-meant and freely given. Get help, you will be happier.

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    Kursk says hi.

    Meanwhile your friends are s ing supermarkets.



    and children's cancer hospitals.

    and tortures and executes prisoners. The dismembering of a prisoner for a gruesome photo they posted on their social media was really nasty.

    You support that by carrying water for them here.

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    I am baffled at how long and how far the Ukrainians want to go. This takes a lot of fuel and logistics AND you must be able to cover the whole damn assault. It’s impressive militarily. If the Ukrainians really have this covered and plan to keep causing trouble it’s very significant after all this front line death grind war.

    This is really surprising. I bet the Ukrainians did not inform their “allies”
    I feel this my most salient point at the moment.

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    I seriously think you need psychological help.

    what you post here is not mentally healthy.

    Well-meant and freely given. Get help, you will be happier.
    Not mentally healthy, like following me around when I'm supposedly on your "ignore list"?

    I don't hope you ever get help, I hope your ilk ceases to exist bro.

    It's funny how you and others here think telling me I need help is some sort of tactic. You say this to me as if I haven't read most of your asinine takes bro. Guess who else has said similar, a dude who cries over mean ST posts here to them/theys psych. IDGAF what "advice" you have for me bro; you're ing worthless, your "advice" is worthless, and all your takes are worthless. You're a degen and nothing you say to me matters in the least.

    Am I still on "ignore" or are you just a big ing liar like always, RandomTranny?

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    Ukraine!

    Cry more you ing males here on ST.

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    Ukraine!

    Cry more you ing males here on ST.
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    Not mentally healthy, like following me around when I'm supposedly on your "ignore list"?

    I don't hope you ever get help, I hope your ilk ceases to exist bro.

    It's funny how you and others here think telling me I need help is some sort of tactic. You say this to me as if I haven't read most of your asinine takes bro. Guess who else has said similar, a dude who cries over mean ST posts here to them/theys psych. IDGAF what "advice" you have for me bro; you're ing worthless, your "advice" is worthless, and all your takes are worthless. You're a degen and nothing you say to me matters in the least.

    Am I still on "ignore" or are you just a big ing liar like always, RandomTranny?
    Totally making my point for me. you really really really should seek some mental counseling, if you can afford it.

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    I feel this my most salient point at the moment.
    UKR has roughly 10 brigades committed to this operation. that is roughly 10,000+ troops.

    Given the number pouring in, I would guess they did a LOT of planning for this. They are digging in getting ready for Russia to try counter attacking.

    Russia sucks ass at maneuver. It is gonna take them a while.

    Their objectives are becoming a bit clearer, but they still 100% have the initiative. russia is a slow giant, and is taking some body blows by a much, much faster thinking and moving opponent. sort of a classic mismatch.

    This is not over yet by a long shot, and keeps getting worse for the russian "army".

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    Totally making my point for me. you really really really should seek some mental counseling, if you can afford it.
    LOL Same tactic as all the males here... "Attack him and claim he's mentally ill like me. When that doesn't work, attack him by claiming he can't afford a psych. If that doesn't work, well... Rinse and repeat."

    Go yourself and stop lying to the board that I'm on your "ignore" list you ing pathological lying ass sob.

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    LilZ and I love trading dresses and playing make believe. He's my daddy!

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    Smart tactics


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    I am baffled at how long and how far the Ukrainians want to go. This takes a lot of fuel and logistics AND you must be able to cover the whole damn assault.
    It's a desperation move, peegarden. OG Hitler tried the same thing when he realized he was going to lose. Lil Hitler just following in his footsteps.

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    It's a desperation move, peegarden. OG Hitler tried the same thing when he realized he was going to lose. Lil Hitler just following in his footsteps.
    Russians are overstretched too.

    As RG said, russians are slow to move troops around and their logistics suck as they depend heavily on rail.

    Putler ed up in not protecting kursk area, kursk rail hubs, and Ukrainians are tearing them a new one.

    Lets just say the russian resupply situation just became crappier on southern front.

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    It's a desperation move, peegarden. OG Hitler tried the same thing when he realized he was going to lose. Lil Hitler just following in his footsteps.
    Ukraine has made a big political impression with this operation, not just militarily.
    West will be more likely to send whatever is needed.

    Your brain is fried comparing this to WWII. And your Hitler in this is Putin.
    You were laughing that the Biden called the invasion and you said no way? lol. You remember. As bad as your Covid takes.
    Just keep posting so your thoughts can be reversed and shoved back down your trumpy orange throat.

    Please keep posting. So much wrong can be fun.

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    UKR has roughly 10 brigades committed to this operation. that is roughly 10,000+ troops.

    Given the number pouring in, I would guess they did a LOT of planning for this. They are digging in getting ready for Russia to try counter attacking.

    Russia sucks ass at maneuver. It is gonna take them a while.

    Their objectives are becoming a bit clearer, but they still 100% have the initiative. russia is a slow giant, and is taking some body blows by a much, much faster thinking and moving opponent. sort of a classic mismatch.

    This is not over yet by a long shot, and keeps getting worse for the russian "army".
    It could definitely be used in negotiations. But that means the Ukrainians would have to hold on.
    The Ukrainian planning for slaughtering the slow incoming “help” preemptively is impressive.
    The US had better be studying this closely. I doubt we are ready for this type of warfare. Lots of drones, jamming, counter jamming, coordinated jamming.

    Snaked thinks this is WWII. Promote him to a hole.

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