Who is the next Generational talent after Wama?

[MultiTroll]

I wouldn't even say Flagg is a sure fire guy, and I wouldn't say he's even a lock to be the #1 pick this draft.

So you guys are telling me there isn't even one damn player in the hyped 25 draft that is a lock?
To be a many years starter, often legit All Star.

[exstatic]

The odds are definitely good for next year's draft, however there is never a 100% lock.

2003 draft (which I always bring up) had a top 4 mock of:
LeBron James
Darko Milicic
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Bosh

which was the order they were drafted (Even ESPN's Chad Ford said "I think Carmelo is a distant third to LeBron and Darko.")

Dwayne Wade was mocked around 5-7 before the draft.

Out of those 5 players, 4 will be in the HoF and 1 was a bust.

This draft may have an exciting top 5, but there will always be a bust somewhere and a hidden gem somewhere else.

Team make-up and player development is incredibly important. I'd rather surround Wemby with Four 3&D players than another all-star who would clash against him.

You need at least a second legit star to carry the team during minutes, and even games when Wemby doesn’t play

[exstatic]

So you guys are telling me there isn't even one damn player in the hyped 25 draft that is a lock?
To be a many years starter, often legit All Star.

The only two locks in the last 20 years were LeBron and Wemby. There are no LeBrons or Wemby’s in this draft. There are, however, and bunch of REALLY good and exciting prospects in this draft, and according to some, up to 7 possible All Stars. We just don’t know who they will be just yet, and there’s usually some busts in the top 10, too.

[stnick2261]

You need at least a second legit star to carry the team during minutes, and even games when Wemby doesn’t play

But you can't have that 2nd star be someone who can't play WITH Wemby. That's the situation where I'd rather have 4 elite role players than someone who would be a detriment to our generational player. Obviously, a second star who's not a complete asshole would be preferred.

[spurraider21]

Virtually every year there is at least one 100% lock.

At to surrounding Wama with Four 3&D players, good luck with that.

as of right now, that kind of team would suck tbh ... we realized that wemby needs other competent creators on offense right now, particularly when it comes to guard play. just getting a bunch of 3&D types that cant help set him up would be disastrous offensively.

reared its head in the olympics too. Paul will help this year. its also why i was so high in sheppard/dillingham. remains to be seen if Castle can become a good enough shooter to pull off the lead guard role

[exstatic]

Virtually every year there is at least one 100% lock.

At to surrounding Wama with Four 3&D players, good luck with that.

That hasn’t been true since they started drafting HS players and one and dones for the majority of the first round. That really ed with player “floors”, going from slight disappointment to out of the league in 2 or 4 years.

[MultiTroll]

That hasn’t been true since they started drafting HS players and one and dones for the majority of the first round. That really ed with player “floors”, going from slight disappointment to out of the league in 2 or 4 years.

Last 4 years.
Zion
Ant Edwards
Cade Cunningham
Banchero

All solid picks that have absolutely started and contributed large.

[scott]

Last 4 years.
Zion
Ant Edwards
Cade Cunningham
Banchero

All solid picks that have absolutely started and contributed large.

Bro it's August. Not every draft has a sure fire lock that can be identified 10 months ahead of time. Where was Antman mocked 10 months before the draft?

[baseline bum]

Anyways, I rather have a DWade than a Lebron next to Wemby. DWade had the mental toughness to carry his team in 2008, much like Manu’s mental toughness throughout his career, likewise Tony even being the smallest in the French team.

LeBron carried a crap supporting cast to 66 wins in an EC with good Celtics and Magic teams. It's the single most impressive thing I have ever seen out of a player.

[scott]

LeBron carried a crap supporting cast to 66 wins in an EC with good Celtics and Magic teams. It's the single most impressive thing I have ever seen out of a player.

John B's hatred of Lebron knows no bounds

[exstatic]

Bro it's August. Not every draft has a sure fire lock that can be identified 10 months ahead of time. Where was Antman mocked 10 months before the draft?

I think that’s the point he’s missing. Any YouTubes out now are labeled ‘way too early mock draft’, because it is.

That’s also why it’s easy to spot a generational player, because you CAN see it a year out, and it hardly ever happens. They 100% will be a superstar, and you know it a year before the draft.

[baseline bum]

John B's hatred of Lebron knows no bounds

Would have thought he was ducks son if he wasn't dead tbh

[MultiTroll]

Bro it's August. Not every draft has a sure fire lock that can be identified 10 months ahead of time. Where was Antman mocked 10 months before the draft?

The Spurs should have had some of the ATL brothas talkin bout Ant Edwards at Holy Spirit High School.

[MultiTroll]

I think that’s the point he’s missing. Any YouTubes out now are labeled ‘way too early mock draft’, because it is.

That’s also why it’s easy to spot a generational player, because you CAN see it a year out, and it hardly ever happens. They 100% will be a superstar, and you know it a year before the draft.

I was surfing and recruiting cheerleaders in the Virgin Islands in 1991 when i got into a pickup game of basketball with Timmy Duncan.

I told my US sources "this guy is gonna be a baller in 5 years."

[John B]

LeBron carried a crap supporting cast to 66 wins in an EC with good Celtics and Magic teams. It's the single most impressive thing I have ever seen out of a player.

Did LeBron’s Cavs win that series? I didn’t think so. That’s why he left and rode DWade’s cape

[baseline bum]

Did LeBron’s Cavs win that series? I didn’t think so. That’s why he left and rode DWade’s cape

Wow LeBron didn't drag Mo Williams, Delonte West, Anderson Varejao, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas to a championship, ing loser. LOL riding Wade's cape when LeBron won Finals MVP in both of their les.

[quentin_compson]

Did LeBron’s Cavs win that series? I didn’t think so. That’s why he left and rode DWade’s cape

Man, I really hope you are not being entirely serious here. For your own sake.

[Frenchfred]

And more importantly, can we get him on the Spurs?

Boil it down. I know there are draft threads addressing some of this but who is, or rather is there anyone not currently in NBA that IS a sure fire bet?
Wemby bar is too high, but i mean who upcoming is the next notch below Wemby? Sure fire All Star for years?

Flag?
Boozer?
Vlady Schmookovic from Serbia?

Give us one guy that WILL be an annual legit All Star.

Flag is probably not a generational player but he has all the tools to be a pretty good all-star (AD level), that would be a perfect second star with Wemby who still has to improve his shooting and lower his TOs to be considered a generational talent.

[MultiTroll]

Flag is probably not a generational player but he has all the tools to be a pretty good all-star (AD level), that would be a perfect second star with Wemby who still has to improve his shooting and lower his TOs to be considered a generational talent.

I've only seen the above YouTube whereupon he played the US Team. However they were in major kick back / don't get injured mode so I need to see more of Flagg vs adults.

A solid starter next to Wama with multiple skills and no glaring holes would be a huge improvement over last years show.

Except we aren't sniffing Flagg without another lottery pick and probably some huge luck in the ping pong ball pull.

[Limguogolo]

I understand the interest in wanting to add a new generational star alongside Wemby to ensure a new dynasty. But we should know in San Antonio more than anywhere else that it doesn't happen that way. Ginobili and Tony Parker weren't even first picks, even after the fact. It's all about chemistry (or chemystery). In all sports and at all times, it has always been a story of luck and chemystery to move to the next level. Look at the supposed gap between Team USA's HOF mix and a no Fullmedal Alchemist Team France: theoretically it should have been huge, yet it wasn't. It's good to predict the next talents, but we're talking about individual talents. Just because pineapple and cheese are all-star ingredients doesn't mean it makes sense to put them together in a pizza.

[KingKev]

Did LeBron’s Cavs win that series? I didn’t think so. That’s why he left and rode DWade’s cape

Do you think Vassell could be Wemby’s Dwade? Devin Anthony Vassell is a 6’7 beast worth 25/5/5/5/5/2 a night.

[jjspur]

At least this next draft, we have to look a G-League Ignite players. While those guys have talent, it mostly takes them a few years to develop. With the majority of these kids playing college ball now, it now becomes more of an even playing field when it comes to trying to evaluate who the real top talents are. I'll wait till the end of the season or the tournament to make an eval. Things can and do change a lot, not to mention injuries, suspensions, slumps, bad coaching, etc. We'll get a better picture in a few months.

[LeBowen]

At least this next draft, we have to look a G-League Ignite players.

There's no more G-League Ignite team, they shut it down. Rightfully so.

[MultiTroll]

Just because pineapple and cheese are all-star ingredients doesn't mean it makes sense to put them together in a pizza.

Are you saying you don't like pizza with cheeze and pineapple among the toppings?

What is wrong with you?

You know what they say about pineapple, right?

[MultiTroll]

I understand the interest in wanting to add a new generational star alongside Wemby to ensure a new dynasty. But we should know in San Antonio more than anywhere else that it doesn't happen that way. Ginobili and Tony Parker weren't even first picks, even after the fact.

Ginobili was a legit potential All Star before he joined the Spurs.
We just got lucky at that time the NBA scouting system was not as global as it is today. o

Parker yes i think we just got lucky. Don't know who saw that coming.

Yes we absolutely need chemistry to go with Wemby. But also a player that has some elite skills in more then just one area. Vassel can shoot, but he's below average or just flat sucky in everything else.