PI and holding should be a 5 yard penalty.
I don't know why they went back on that. PIs are the calls that impact a game the most and it's hard to get them right on real time sometimes. They should be able to be reverted if the mistake is clear. Maybe instead of having coaches challenge them, you can have the booth refs just reverse the call when it's egregious.
Holding on both sides of the ball would be even more frequent and blatant if the penalty wasn’t so severe. And it will lead to way more whining and crying by fans than what we currently have.
I do agree PI shouldn’t be a spot foul, it should be 15 yards max. But that means Joe Flacco would have been out of the league in 3 years, and switched careers to robbing banks with Robert Pattinson.
If you rob a team of a 50 yard catch in the endzone, why should it be only 15 yards?
Why even spot it at the 1yd line? Why not just award them the TD?
Yeah, college has it right with the PI penalty I think.
That's assuming he was going to catch it. Maybe they should switch to basketball rules and allow the receiver two free kicks from a charity stripe around the 5 yard line. If they determine it was a break away foul, they get the ball again starting at the opponent 30.
This would certainly cut down on the endzone bull . Unless of course you're the Chiefs thus no call will be made.
A review would switch it to the NY camera crew, unless they are paid off too.
We have seen evidence of this.
Lamar Jacksons perfect TD passes have a 50% chance of being dropped or PI on the defense, so yes true we should not assume receiver would have caught ball.
Then you will have DBs blatantly interfering with WRs that have them beat past 5 yards. Clearly not the answer.
PIs should definitely be spot fouls. They just need to be overturned when the missed call is blatant.
I don’t think there’s any scenario where it’s a good idea to reward a team with 50 free yards due to a theoretical catch. We saw the Ravens build an entire offense around “chuck it deep + wide receiver flops = free yardage”. Seems like Indy could try the same thing.
If you don't want to get called for 50 yards, just don't interfere with the receiver as a defender. Simple as that.
Putting a limit to the amount of yards a defensive team can get penalized for PI will just motivate defensive backs to interfere on purpose to prevent bigger gains or clear TDs.
Imagine this situation: a WR gets 5 yards of separation, the QB throws a perfect ball from their own 30 yard line. Do you really think the DB wouldn't just tackle the WR before the ball gets to him so that the offense gets a 1st and 10 from their own 45 instead of a TD? Explosive plays would decrease dramatically.
Your idea would be great to make the NFL a lot tier to watch, tbh.
The NFL is already terrible to watch. The 2 High defense being played by every team right now is a direct result of doing everything possible to avoid deep PI calls and big plays. And games are incredibly boring as a result.
College is way more entertaining and they do 15 yd PI calls.
And a receiver getting 5 yards of separation has already dusted his man so badly there’s no “tackling him to prevent a catch”. I know you’re used to watching unathletic midgets who are slower than fat baseball players in a sport where flopping is a key strategy, but do you not understand how big a gap 5 yards is in the NFL?
And there’s no guarantee that it would be a catch (ex: Desean Jackson, Wes Welker, etc). Again, don’t reward 50 yards for a theoretical catch.
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because in 2019 that was a cluster that made games too long and between covid and the challenging PIs from 2019 not even being that popular in the first place they just scrapped it for 2020 and never looked back.
I think they need to move the kickoffs back to the 25 yard line, keep the current/2024 positioning of the other special teams players, and teams should get rewarded for having a strong kicker, so the ball on regular touchbacks should come out to the 20 yard line like the peak NFL days... definitely not the 30, that short of a field is stupid... and if the ball lands in the landing zone they still have to return, and if the ball lands in the landing zone and goes into the endzone the return team either must return or the ball is spotted at their own 10 or maybe the 15. Reward good special teams, don't give the receiving team too unfair of an advantage, this is especially important in late game situations holding on to a slim lean. Don't penalize the team that scores a TD "too early" too hard.
Imo there should be some bifurcated system where most PI calls are 15 yards max but the really blatant ones are spot fouls, but the refs would that up somehow.
As to why they don’t make PI reviewable anymore, because when they made them reviewable the challenges rarely succeeded even when they should have. The refs or whoever was responsible for reviewing plays clearly wanted the system to fail and they did a great job sabotaging it.
now if you could provide even one link of a Raven doing that.
This
Easy fix for that, just have the refs in the booth reverse those calls. Only the really blatant ones, the close calls stay as called on the field.
Sure! Here you go https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/...g-interference
You have to be mentally challenged to not remember the entire “chuck it deep to Torrey Smith and watch him flop for a PI call” era.
Now don’t get me wrong, it takes skill to do this. You need a very specific QB who has a cannon arm while also being wildly inaccurate with his deeps balls, along with a Manu level flopper at WR. Flacco/Smith fit the bill perfectly.
I think Anthony Richardson/Adonai Mitc could do a poor man’s version of this if they tried.
I meant in this decade.
All i have seen is Joey Burrow and Lamar Jackson get F'd over by refs.
Not recipients of flop calls.
No, you can't find a bunch of Lamar Jackson bombs being flopped into penalties.
7 years and you got nothing.
“Show proof a Raven did this”
*gives proof
”No, I mean in this decade”
*it happened 9 years ago
”No, I mean prove Lamar Jackson did it”
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You’re so defensive about Lamar Jackson that you assumed he was talking about Lamar Jackson even though he never mentioned Lamar Jackson![]()
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