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    You say this but if there’s a polling error this year that’s even a fraction like the 2020 polling error then Trump is definitely winning.

    right now I think the race is as close to a toss up as it gets.
    Even a fraction of 2016, realistically, especially since WI/MI really came out of left field then. I think the polls have improved... though not sure if going off a midterm (2022) is a great example of that.

    Either way, you're the most objective Democrat on this message board by a lot, so you're the one most worth listening to

    I agree regarding the toss up. And polls seem to be all over the place here.

    Other than federal crimes, incarceration is a function of local police and courts.

    Do you know what Presidents do?
    Exactly. You are simply misinformed or very much anti-democracy if you think Harris or anyone else can be a medieval tyrant who can put everyone in jail by executive order that she doesn't like.

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    I was being mostly facetious with the post, but I totally expect her to win. If she loses, the ONLY reason will be because there are too many low-key racists and misogynists that called themselves Democrats.
    Meh, elections are still decided by persuasion and independents.

    Imo if she loses it’ll be because Biden dug her too deep a hole on key issues, namely immigration.

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    Meh, elections are still decided by persuasion and independents.

    Imo if she loses it’ll be because Biden dug her too deep a hole on key issues, namely immigration.
    agreed, it's the immigration issue more than anything...

    as for social issues, Trump and most of the swing-election GOP candidates not named Mark Robinson are staying out of the culture warhawking this time around... and the state and local dems especially in the rust belt shot themselves in the foot by going too hard after abortion in 2022 and to a lesser extent 2023, instead of making it a more nationalized issue in 2024. What Michigander that voted Whitmer et al. just because Prop. 3 was on the ballot, for example, is going to be a high propensity Democratic voter in 2024? Not enough.

    Also the inflation and cost of living issue, while still more the fault of Covid and the bi-partisan spending knee jerk reaction to all that than Biden/Harris themselves, definitely hurt the in bent party, especially with the VP on the ticket.

    A decent - not enormous but potentially decisive - amount of people are still upset by the 2022 post-Ukraine/pre-Dobbs gas prices and the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal and blame those on Biden/Harris, too.

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