AJ Griffin - 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[exstatic]

Short cutting it. Real men want to go through Armageddon.

[daslicer]

AJ's dad made close to 10 mil in career earnings as a player and now the Bucks owe his dad 12 mil after they fired him. My point is this kid was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He comes from money so he doesn't really value money the way a normal person would. This to me is a huge reason why it's easy for him to walk away and become a religious nutcase and not think of the consequences of leaving several million on the table.

Even though his dad is loaded he might regret retiring early later on in his life if he didn't manage his finances properly or ends up not getting a good inheritance from his dad. Even if your parents are successful you want to set yourself up in a way that you can be independent of them and not under their influence or having to rely on them.

[Joseph Kony]

Lol he's a jeebo giving up his life to dedicate himself to ministering because he thinks the end days are upon us what a ing tool. waste of a life like so many others throwing their time away on religious nonsense

[jeebus]

Lol he's a jeebo

[spurraider21]

Seems wild. Retiring from basketball at 21…

on one hand, yeah. but its also a pretty wild lifestyle/profession. definitely not for everybody, even if they have the talent to pursue it.

[baseline bum]

Just started up Echoes of Wisdom; pretty wild playing as the Princess and trying to save Zelda this time tbh.

[jeebus]

Just started up Echoes of Wisdom; pretty wild playing as the Princess and trying to save Link this time tbh.

I'm waiting to buy it. I go on vacation in a few days and I hate getting balls deep in a game then having to quit it for a week.

[ismael-robert]

Lol even Zelda goin woke, thanks dems

[baseline bum]

Lol even Zelda goin woke, thanks dems

LOL threatened by having a female main character in a video game. At least she's not a nigger amirite?

[Dejounte]

Who the cares if the main character of a video game is female or male? The things people get wrapped up in is crazy.

[Mr. Body]

Who the cares if the main character of a video game is female or male? The things people get wrapped up in is crazy.

A lot of men won't play a female character. They also won't let a doctor touch their butt, so they just die of prostate cancer.

[Joseph Kony]

Who the cares if the main character of a video game is female or male? The things people get wrapped up in is crazy.

incels have been brainwashed into thinking female or minority lead character = WOKE

[PhantomDashCam]

Who the cares if the main character of a video game is female or male? The things people get wrapped up in is crazy.

To be fair, usually it doesn't (for most that is, admitting there are extremes on both sides).
The problem is though pop culture and entertainment at large have become ideological battlegrounds for race, sex and iden y based politics - eschewing story, design and fun in the process.

One red flag that often pops up is that a once male lead character franchise is often passed over for a said female contemporary. (Here, Zelda is the main character, rather than Link, which seems odd because Link has been the lead character for almost 40 years).

During playing/engaging, the audience is then bludgeoned and told repeatedly about how good this new character/s is, how much better they are than the previous character - without ever really earning it - potentially destroying canonical events, key character decisions etc. without respect for the groundwork laid before.
If you're invested in the IP, it can be a really soul destroying experience. It often always follows the same playbook too...

FWIW, I don't think the new Zelda game is a good example of this (due to the history of the main characters relationship) but it does seem to happen quite a bit and often leads to an objectively inferior product when judged holistically...

[Dejounte]

To be fair, usually it doesn't (for most that is, admitting there are extremes on both sides).
The problem is though pop culture and entertainment at large have become ideological battlegrounds for race, sex and iden y based politics - eschewing story, design and fun in the process.

One red flag that often pops up is that a once male lead character franchise is often passed over for a said female contemporary. (Here, Zelda is the main character, rather than Link, which seems odd because Link has been the lead character for almost 40 years).

During playing/engaging, the audience is then bludgeoned and told repeatedly about how good this new character/s is, how much better they are than the previous character - without ever really earning it - potentially destroying canonical events, key character decisions etc. without respect for the groundwork laid before.
If you're invested in the IP, it can be a really soul destroying experience. It often always follows the same playbook too...

FWIW, I don't think the new Zelda game is a good example of this (due to the history of the main characters relationship) but it does seem to happen quite a bit and often leads to an objectively inferior product when judged holistically...

Name better examples then. I can think of many examples where a change occurred and it was the right call. People get way too attached to how things were and can’t handle it when a product branches out. Originals can stay cemented in history without new ideas overriding them. This doesn’t have to be complicated.

These stories aren’t iconic because of the lead character’s race or gender. They are iconic because of the story’s theme, conflict, and resolution are relatable to ALL humans. Peter Parker being white was never THE draw… it was his struggle, his loss, his compassion, his weaknesses that made him appeal to all people of different races and gender. Miles Morales was created and guess what? The writers gave that character similar story elements and it captured the same essence of what Spiderman is about while expanding its audience and adding new narratives that can be explored.

[baseline bum]

To be fair, usually it doesn't (for most that is, admitting there are extremes on both sides).
The problem is though pop culture and entertainment at large have become ideological battlegrounds for race, sex and iden y based politics - eschewing story, design and fun in the process.

One red flag that often pops up is that a once male lead character franchise is often passed over for a said female contemporary. (Here, Zelda is the main character, rather than Link, which seems odd because Link has been the lead character for almost 40 years).

During playing/engaging, the audience is then bludgeoned and told repeatedly about how good this new character/s is, how much better they are than the previous character - without ever really earning it - potentially destroying canonical events, key character decisions etc. without respect for the groundwork laid before.
If you're invested in the IP, it can be a really soul destroying experience. It often always follows the same playbook too...

FWIW, I don't think the new Zelda game is a good example of this (due to the history of the main characters relationship) but it does seem to happen quite a bit and often leads to an objectively inferior product when judged holistically...

tH3Y k1ll3D j03L aND m@d3 u PL@y aZ a l3sBiaN eLLi3! mUH s0UL cRu$h3D!

[baseline bum]

Name better examples then. I can think of many examples where a change occurred and it was the right call. People get way too attached to how things were and can’t handle it when a product branches out. Originals can stay cemented in history without new ideas overriding them. This doesn’t have to be complicated.

These stories aren’t iconic because of the lead character’s race or gender. They are iconic because of the story’s theme, conflict, and resolution are relatable to ALL humans. Peter Parker being white was never THE draw… it was his struggle, his loss, his compassion, his weaknesses that made him appeal to all people of different races and gender.

Th3Y M@dE j03L's dAuGhtEr @ n3gR0!

[jeebus]

tH3Y k1ll3D j03L aND m@d3 u PL@y aZ a l3sBiaN eLLi3! mUH s0UL cRu$h3D!

tbh there wasn't an outcry when you could play as Zelda in this 90s banger:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelda%27s_Adventure

[baseline bum]

tbh there wasn't an outcry when you could play as Zelda in this 90s banger:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelda%27s_Adventure

Speaking of Zelda CD-i games, have you ever checked out Ship of Harkinian? Best way I have ever played Ocarina and their announcement videos always use cutscenes from those CD-i Zeldas.

[PhantomDashCam]

Name better examples then. I can think of many examples where a change occurred and it was the right call.

Ironic though that you've named only one. Do you know the history of Miles Morales and his creation?
Dr. Who, Star Wars, TLOU, God Of War are but a few examples for which I speak.

People get way too attached to how things were and can’t handle it when a product branches out. Originals can stay cemented in history without new ideas overriding them. This doesn’t have to be complicated.

These stories aren’t iconic because of the lead character’s race or gender. They are iconic because of the story’s theme, conflict, and resolution are relatable to ALL humans. Peter Parker being white was never THE draw… it was his struggle, his loss, his compassion, his weaknesses that made him appeal to all people of different races and gender.

I agree completely with this statement. The Human condition is what has allowed us to empathise with stories and characters for thousands of years.

I also believe in biological differences between Sexes and Geographical/Topographical/Religious differences between Cultures.
There are many creating the stories and content you're consuming that do not and will make sure that this is known at every opportunity.
It can be canonically corrosive when introduced or idiotic for the sake of pandering. Which brings me to this...

tH3Y k1ll3D j03L aND m@d3 u PL@y aZ a l3sBiaN eLLi3! mUH s0UL cRu$h3D!

I think most people had an issue with Abby (poorly written, 50% of the experience, bait and switch) in the sequel and Ellie's "pointless" quest (which I'm sure some would argue was the point).

During a Zombie Apocalypse, where every potential contact with humans and their skin is lethal, why does Abby wear a sleeveless top during raids and punch said Zombies in the face? Come on man.

[baseline bum]

Ironic though that you've named only one. Do you know the history of Miles Morales and his creation?
Dr. Who, Star Wars, TLOU, God Of War are but a few examples for which I speak.

So negro Spider Man bad. What are you butthurt at God of War for?

I also believe in biological differences between Sexes and Geographical/Topographical/Religious differences between Cultures.

Check, Abby should have kept her ass in the kitchen.

I think most people had an issue with Abby (poorly written, 50% of the experience, bait and switch) in the sequel and Ellie's "pointless" quest (which I'm sure some would argue was the point).

You think wrong as a whining vocal minority thinking you speak for the fanbase. Abby was awesome and I hope she's a huge part of Part III. She was there to show how futile Ellie's quest for revenge was since she had gone through the same getting back at Joel and was an awesome addition to the story.

During a Zombie Apocalypse, where every potential contact with humans and their skin is lethal, why does Abby wear a sleeveless top during raids and punch said Zombies in the face? Come on man.

Did you watch that scene of her getting plowed and now you're sexually confused getting a boner to someone with such strong arms?

[Dejounte]

Ironic though that you've named only one. Do you know the history of Miles Morales and his creation?
Dr. Who, Star Wars, TLOU, God Of War are but a few examples for which I speak.



I agree completely with this statement. The Human condition is what has allowed us to empathise with stories and characters for thousands of years.

I also believe in biological differences between Sexes and Geographical/Topographical/Religious differences between Cultures.
There are many creating the stories and content you're consuming that do not and will make sure that this is known at every opportunity.
It can be canonically corrosive when introduced or idiotic for the sake of pandering. Which brings me to this...



I think most people had an issue with Abby (poorly written, 50% of the experience, bait and switch) in the sequel and Ellie's "pointless" quest (which I'm sure some would argue was the point).

During a Zombie Apocalypse, where every potential contact with humans and their skin is lethal, why does Abby wear a sleeveless top during raids and punch said Zombies in the face? Come on man.

What’s ironic? I was asking you to name a good example after you yourself said you listed a bad one. Me providing one in my post wasn’t a “one-up” to yours but fits entirely into the context of my post which was explaining why race or gender doesn’t matter when it comes to most products.

We can certainly go back and forth about specific products like the ones you mentioned and argue over if it’s justified or not (I believe 3/4 of the ones you listed it was justified) but that would be ignoring the main point of which I already said in my previous post.

You said you understand that it’s the human condition that allows people to empathize and that you think the creators of newer content that switch up the background context of core elements (characters, setting, etc. ) do not understand the impact of changing these elements and how it affects it negatively. You say their purpose for doing so is due to pandering, to which I disagree because the matter is much more nuanced than that. So let’s focus on those points:

1) Changing background context of core elements has a negative impact

False, I’ve already stated that it’s the human condition that’s integral to the heart of the product, a point you already agreed with. If Atreus was a girl in God of War, that would have had so small of an impact to the overall story, of which is a masterpiece. I don’t even want to know why you listed God of War in your post, but part of me thinks it’s because there was a black girl in the game (I forgot the character’s name). To think that THIS is one of your takeaways from that legendary game just gives me the ick.

2) Creators do it because they pander

I won’t say this is entirely false because I do believe some companies push an agenda and influence the creator they’re paying in order to reach a wider audience and that’s where I would draw a line. But I think those examples are too few and far between. In a general sense, creators have a vision that they’d like to follow and when they make choices to make certain characters a specific race or gender then that’s the creative vision that their audience should respect. Creators whose visions are changed by the publishers that pay them are the few with no self-respect.

So ultimately it’s creator vs. publisher-influenced creator. When it’s a creator who has made a story, setting, theme that resonates with a lot of people also makes a choice to include a character that is, let’s say, black because they think it fits the story… then that’s their decision and it should have no impact on its viewers who loved everything else about the product.

Now are there publisher-influenced creations that are justified? Sure. I don’t watch Dr. Who, but correct me if I’m wrong, it has gone on for decades and they needed some way to keep it fresh. I don’t blame the publisher for wanting a creator who has a different idea on the main character’s background in order to introduce new ideas.

Should we even blame publishers for trying to gain a wider reach? They’re putting their money in and just like any product or service, a company can make decisions on what they think fits their vision and objective so they can yield the return they hoped for.

[Dejounte]

In the end, most people wouldn’t invest a thought beyond superficial level on this topic like you or I for reasons such as:
1) they’re too lazy to critically think about things
2) they’re unable to critically think about things (typically due to lack of education)
3) they refuse to critically think about things because their pride and ego is too overwhelming
4) they refuse to critically think about things because their preconceived biases, bigotry is above all else

and then there are guys like baseline bum, who thinks this is a preposterous topic to begin with, is likely capable of putting the same effort in his posts like I’m doing but is too tired of the bull . Honestly, I find myself close to where he is sometimes.

[baseline bum]

I don’t even want to know why you listed God of War in your post, but part of me thinks it’s because there was a black girl in the game (I forgot the character’s name). To think that THIS is one of your takeaways from that legendary game just gives me the ick.

Ah so that's why. Never understood how raging racists pissed off about black Spiderman can watch a sport dominated by black men.

[tim_duncan_fan]

So negro Spider Man bad. What are you butthurt at God of War for?




Check, Abby should have kept her ass in the kitchen.




You think wrong as a whining vocal minority thinking you speak for the fanbase. Abby was awesome and I hope she's a huge part of Part III. She was there to show how futile Ellie's quest for revenge was since she had gone through the same getting back at Joel and was an awesome addition to the story.



Did you watch that scene of her getting plowed and now you're sexually confused getting a boner to someone with such strong arms?

I happen to know this one. One of the norse legend characters is black in one of the recent God of War games.

I wonder how close to school shooter PhantomDashcel is on the pipeline. That's one of the common endpoints of this.

[jeebus]

Speaking of Zelda CD-i games, have you ever checked out Ship of Harkinian? Best way I have ever played Ocarina and their announcement videos always use cutscenes from those CD-i Zeldas.

I have not, but looking it up...you got me curious