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    Spurs fans are in pure coping mode about Sochan. Imo PTFO too.

    It's take some time for them to open their eyes
    More like some of you need to open your eyes about the rest of the roster.

    We were 20-12 up before first subs.
    Jeremy makes the spacing worse, but Trae didn't do before he sat, he bullied the Hawks inside and got a couple of offensive rebounds. He's -3.
    Castle? 0-5 FG, -14.
    Devin? Made his first three shots, 1-6 since, -11. One easy assist for Wemby at the top of the key.
    CP3? Didn't even take a single shot, had a couple of horrible turnovers.
    Tre? 0s across the board except for 1 assist in 7 minutes, didn't even attempt a shot, either.

    Jeremy is a fundamentally flawed player, but he's contributing in every other department.
    Others haven't been doing .

    Mitch needs to stop shoehorning everyone into the rotation if we're to win the game.
    There's no need for 3 point guards.

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    Spurs fans are in pure coping mode about Sochan. Imo PTFO too.

    It's take some time for them to open their eyes
    Not a coincidence we have looked like since his return. Offense flowed better late last season when he got shutdown with injury.

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    In before wemby’s bad 2nd half after a good first half. He always play bad in the 2nd half if he had a good 1st half

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    Start 5 tonight:

    CP3
    Vassell
    Sochan
    Barnes
    Wemby

    This is what everyone asked for, let's see how it looks. Don't love that Champ's good work is rewarded with a benching, but I didn't think they'd bench Barnes.

    Collins is available. Let's see if Mitch rewards Bassey's good work with a benching as well.
    Yes, it is terrible this idea

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    More like some of you need to open your eyes about the rest of the roster.

    We were 20-12 up before first subs.
    Jeremy makes the spacing worse, but Trae didn't do before he sat, he bullied the Hawks inside and got a couple of offensive rebounds. He's -3.
    Castle? 0-5 FG, -14.
    Devin? Made his first three shots, 1-6 since, -11. One easy assist for Wemby at the top of the key.
    CP3? Didn't even take a single shot, had a couple of horrible turnovers.
    Tre? 0s across the board except for 1 assist in 7 minutes, didn't even attempt a shot, either.

    Jeremy is a fundamentally flawed player, but he's contributing in every other department.
    Others haven't been doing .
    Sochan and his spacing are a problem. But he is really far from the worst of our worries. Whether that makes it better or worse, I don't know At this point it is clear that the dude is part of the future.

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    One thing to note is that after Dev's hot "start" to the season, he hasn't been able to show the consistency needed from a #2 or heck even a #3 ala MPJ. That has been the main point with him last year as well, aside from his injury history... I really do want Dev to be a mainstay, franchise guy. When he's on, his game is just beautiful. A hooper but an inconsistent hooper so far.
    I want Devin to be a mainstay too but his inconsistent jumper has me losing my mind. If I’m Wright, I don’t know how much longer I wait

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    They have completely ed up the chemistry. But let's play players who deserve it

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    Wemby has definitely improved. His passing numbers are a bit down but the quality of his passes have been better. He has go to post moves now, either a quick spin or a fadeway. His shooting is getting there. The rebounding though leaves much to be desired for I give you that.

    Rest of the team from last year to this year are either too early to decide on (Vasell and his missed games, or irrelevant to talk about like Wesley, Branham, Jones etc in terms of big picture).
    He did indeed, but not where he really needs to, inside the paint, simplifying his game, having go to moves etc

    He worse at rebounding and it's a pb bc it seems mental, he doesn't seem to care for it. I link that to (bad) coaching.

    His passing was already elite, no idea why some talk about improvements in that area, he can't show it as much bc of CP's arrival. It's about the same to me.

    His shooting is streaky and has gotten a bit better thx to better shot selection mostly.

    Not THAT great and he's the only bright sight (with Castle's pick)

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    I want Devin to be a mainstay too but his inconsistent jumper has me losing my mind. If I’m Wright, I don’t know how much longer I wait
    Well sure as I talk, he starts warming up

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    Sochan is probably the most inconsistent finisher I've seen.

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    He did indeed, but not where he really needs to, inside the paint, simplifying his game, having go to moves etc

    He worse at rebounding and it's a pb bc it seems mental, he doesn't seem to care for it. I link that to (bad) coaching.

    His passing was already elite, no idea why some talk about improvements in that area, he can't show it as much bc of CP's arrival. It's about the same to me.

    His shooting is streaky and has gotten a bit better thx to better shot selection mostly.

    Not THAT great and he's the only bright sight (with Castle's pick)
    I think he's def improved in the bolded, but we'll have to just agree to disagree

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    Jalen Johnson didn’t commit a foul with the off arm?? Wtf?

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    What the is CP3 doing?
    Sit his ass down.

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    Not a coincidence we have looked like since his return. Offense flowed better late last season when he got shutdown with injury.
    Some think I'm a hater, when I like the kid, but he himself is handicaped by Wemby bc Sochan shines with "simpler" basketball, P&R etc

    He's better with Wemby on the bench and would shine with another system (team?)

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    It's things like that why Sochan is part of this future. You just have to hope they figure out the spacing.

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    Some think I'm a hater, when I like the kid, but he himself is handicaped by Wemby bc Sochan shines with "simpler" basketball, P&R etc

    He's better with Wemby on the bench and would shine with another system (team?)
    Wemby will never be a post player even if we have 4 shooters around him. That's the first truth everyone needs to accept.
    Then it's just about if Jeremy is a part of the future regardless of Wemby situation.

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    Wemby's lack of improvement on the turnovers this season has been huge disappointment..

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    Like will anyone even notice or write anything against Devin's defense? He constantly gets pulled into the paint for no reason and leaves his man open in the corner.
    Barnes is also having a dreadful night.

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    So many missed layups this game

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    We've missed 4-5 bunnies at the rim that would make this game look a lot better.

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    There you go. Trae with a 3pt as soon as Castle checked in.

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    Dev is such a hooper

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    More like some of you need to open your eyes about the rest of the roster.

    We were 20-12 up before first subs.
    Jeremy makes the spacing worse, but Trae didn't do before he sat, he bullied the Hawks inside and got a couple of offensive rebounds. He's -3.
    Castle? 0-5 FG, -14.
    Devin? Made his first three shots, 1-6 since, -11. One easy assist for Wemby at the top of the key.
    CP3? Didn't even take a single shot, had a couple of horrible turnovers.
    Tre? 0s across the board except for 1 assist in 7 minutes, didn't even attempt a shot, either.

    Jeremy is a fundamentally flawed player, but he's contributing in every other department.
    Others haven't been doing .

    Mitch needs to stop shoehorning everyone into the rotation if we're to win the game.
    There's no need for 3 point guards.

    Oh but I agree on the mul ude of causes, it's not all bc of Jeremy AT ALL

    I just think that even with a better roster, those 2 will never be complementary. I've listed many reasons in another thread and again it's not hating at all, it's frustrating bc of how much he brings on defense, but at some point you can't ignore the balance.

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    lol Area 15

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    Yeah, I think your right and I think things can work out with Wemby and Sochan but you need another 3 point shooter and another guy who can really put pressure on defense by getting to the rim easy

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