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    So ING dumb at the there come on man wtf was that?!

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    Spurs need a second all star player. Need at least two all stars in this league.
    I agree. Is Fox that player? He is a little short for me, which would create problems at the SG when we play him and CP3 at the same time but when CP3 retires Fox and Castle would be a good back court.

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    Vassell, Johnson and Champagnie better be on a #BEAMTEAM promotional poster outside Golden 1 Center by February 7th.
    Keep Champagnie. The two TO were moronic but overall still a big fan of him, especially given the contract he is on. But if Vassell and Keldon are on Sac they ain't gonna be lighting that beam too many times.

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    Jesus christ Champ

    Can't wait until this team gets more shooters, man.
    With higher basketball IQ, tbh. We are really lucky CP3 stayed healthy this season to man the offense in late/clutch situations. The amount of bed- ting like tonight would have been the norm.

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    I agree. Is Fox that player? He is a little short for me, which would create problems at the SG when we play him and CP3 at the same time but when CP3 retires Fox and Castle would be a good back court.
    Check out Fox topic and scroll back a bit for some height evidence, he's not 6'3...or most of the players listed at 6'3 are 6'2 or even 6'1.
    Long term it would be Castle and Fox, this season is irrelevant in the bigger picture.

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    I love what Champ has been doing all season...but he kinda botched this one at the end when we had all the momentum...just being careless in the clutch.

    Still a great player for his contract, just something to learn and grow from. We had the same growing pains with Danny Green sometimes

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    Yeah champ messed up but he still wasn’t the problem tonight. Dev and Keldon are paid big bucks but did nothing. Barnes also did absolutely nothing.

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    Oh wow had no clue Castle only had 13 minutes and was 7-9 for 17 points lmao

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    Correct takes all around. Champ is a role player outperforming his contract. We have roughly $85 million tied up in Vassell, Keldon, Barnes, and Collins who gave us a steaming bag of feces today. To Collins credit, at least he was glued to the bench.

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    Check out Fox topic and scroll back a bit for some height evidence, he's not 6'3...or most of the players listed at 6'3 are 6'2 or even 6'1.
    Long term it would be Castle and Fox, this season is irrelevant in the bigger picture.
    I follow the topic and I saw the picture, I think that he is a real 6'3. Curry for me was never 6'3.

    I agree that long term, it is Fox and Castle, which can be pretty good when Castle develops a jumpshot as he would have to be the SG.

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    Growing pains galore

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    Another flaw of this team that will go under the radar because of the coaching, champ turnovers, Vassell play, difficulties with playing Sochan and Castle together ....

    But Harrison Barnes is washed pretty badly.

    He cranked that 3 game stretch of 20 point games that got him a fluke player of the week award, but ultimately, he's not good enough to be an NBA starter. His time has passed, that's why Sacramento gave up a swap to have DeRozan instead.

    There's just to many games where he does.... NOTHING. That's how the Locked On Kings host described his game and he was right. He puts up small amount of threes, makes enough to look good there, but very often aside from the unreliable scoring he does nothing. No big impact on defense, on rebounding, in help, playmaking, rim deterrence, steals, hustle ...

    He just kind of exists.

    I think Mamu might legit be a better option at this point

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    All in all, Spurs need to better on the road if they want to sniff the play-in. i don't think we have controlled a single game outside Frost bank going to the fourth Q.. We ve been playing catchup all season

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    Nothing really to be mad about out. They’ll continue to make these mistakes because very low BBIQ guys have prominent roles on this team.

    Until that is solved the team will be hit or miss in close games. You cannot expect CP3 to save this team every night. He looks gassed at the end of games.

    Front office really needs to have a come to Jesus moment with some of these guys this offseason. It’s been 3-4 years for a few of them. It is what it is.

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    Wanted this win badly. I predict we’re gonna get blown out by the Knicks

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    Champagnie was awful down the stretch but this game should have been won in the first 3 quarters. They never could string together consecutive positive possessions. It would have been thievery for them to pull this one out. After two fairly complete games, they regressed against a team just good enough not to let em back in

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    We can’t have Sochan and Castle on the court because of shooting. Johnson chose to go with Sochan, but Castle was playing better tonight.
    We gotta stop with the "Castle and Sochan can't share the court" crap. They are supossed to be two of our core guys moving forward. Either start playing them together or move one of them. It doesn't make sense to have "core guys" that can't play together.

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    With higher basketball IQ, tbh. We are really lucky CP3 stayed healthy this season to man the offense in late/clutch situations. The amount of bed- ting like tonight would have been the norm.
    I just finished watching the game and couldn't agree more. I shouldn't have stayed up. Been up for 24 hours, decided to watch the game. Spurs are full of small time players. Vassell, Keldon "clang" Johnson that don't show up when the games matter. Great tanking players that seem to play well/their best games when there is nothing to play for, or go up against inferior teams. Jeremy Sochan, he's playing tough, but I'm not even sure he's a starter with that abomination of a three point shot I saw him take earlier this game. That shooting coach needs to be fired. Never seen a player that's jumper looks uglier after the shooting coach started working with him. He's completely ed Jeremy's shot to if you ask me.

    Chris Paul is playing his ass off. Too bad the team is full of low iq players. Julian, I won't fault him too much with those turnovers as I'm sure he's beating himself up over it. And Steph Castle, not sure what the Spurs are doing playing him off the bench. Harrison Barnes has disappeared, and Devin hasn't earned that starting spot IMO.
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    Having CP3 here, with his mindset, his IQ, his demand of excellence and his understanding of so many live game situations is going to greatly affect Wemby for the rest of his career.

    That alone is invaluable.

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    Wemby soft as ... How do u give up that rebound... He is too tall to be such a horrible rebounder... Dude really has no fundamentals and doesn't fight for down low
    His average dropped under 10 after tonight.

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    yes it is an argument as we cannot fill the team with high contracts. The Spurs need another star to complement Wemby. If that star takes a max and Wemby will get a max too; you need to have players with small contracts and for 4 million you won't get much better than Champagnie. He made some mistakes tonight but he kept us in the game
    I don't think it has anything to do with money/size of the contract but scouting and FO choices.

    I've rarely seen such limitations and low collective BBIQ from core players (Champ Vassell Keldon Sochan in particular, not even thinking about Brahman or Wesley tbh)

    You can find a lot better in europe for a lot cheaper, like Yabusele for ex.

    PATFO used to be quite good at it during the big3 era but I guess, keeping losing competent employees has a cost.

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    Cp3 was clutch as usual in the 4th but he struggled bigtime for 3 quarters. He was part of the reason why the spur splayed from behind mostly.

    Steph Castle had the right idea. He took it inside when it was clear No Embid of Drummond to man the middle Pity none of his teammates were on the same page. It was a soft middle.

    Champ wss the only one too hit the 3 consistently but his careless TOs at the end were simply avoidable. He got the spursin the game and then gave it away.

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