30 games in, what are everyone's thoughts?

[Raven]

I like to believe we can get to 50, but it will take a better rotation.

[Jordan Jackson]

My thoughts are I hope PATFO aren't as emotionally attached to Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson as SpursTalk/Spurs Twitter.


but they've been here a really long time

but they're so good in the locker room

I swear they're gonna develop soon bro just wait bro

Most front offices do not like to admit they were wrong about players they drafted.

The Spurs were wrong about some of these guys - they need to admit it and move on. Like someone mentioned above - they probably won’t because they think if they give it just one more season they’ll be proven right.

[scott]

Basically the same thing I said a couple of days ago you didn't agree with.

I recognize you have a learning disability, so I'll take it easy on you.

Your take was that the Spurs had to tank, because getting a top pick was the only way they were going to get better, which is incorrect and anyone with a brain can disagree with, because it's clearly wrong.

[onechance87]

Spend this offseason Trading for De'Aaron Fox, and signing Brandon Ingram, locking up your cap space for years to come. Who says no?

we may have to attempt to sign ingram if we dont trade for another star player.He would be our second best player after wemby,Thats how much trash
vassell has become.And i dont think much of ingram at all.

[Spurminator]

This is about where I thought they'd be and where I thought they should be. They're good enough to start playing close games against quality opponents and have meaningful experience in clutch situations. They've lost some close games they probably should have won, but last year we lose today's game (for example) by 20+.

[TheChillFactor]

we have entered the stage of team development where we are losing to more veteran teams because we're young and make more mistakes than they do.

this will last a year or so before its really cleaned up but its just something we have to go through.

[Mr. Body]

we may have to attempt to sign ingram if we dont trade for another star player.He would be our second best player after wemby,Thats how much trash
vassell has become.And i dont think much of ingram at all.

You have the tiest takes on the site, congrats. Takes a lot of effort.

[Mr. Body]

we have entered the stage of team development where we are losing to more veteran teams because we're young and make more mistakes than they do.

this will last a year or so before its really cleaned up but its just something we have to go through.

Pretty much. Gotta learn how to win those possessions. It'll come. This game would have been an easy Dub if Bridges didn't go hog wild. Knicks couldn't hang, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Yeah, let's put Fox and Ingram into the same category just to try and prove your dumb point.

I was being sarcastic dumbass. Thought was obvious.

[onechance87]

You have the tiest takes on the site, congrats. Takes a lot of effort.

lol....

[Bruno]

I think things are looking damn great for Spurs right now.

Spurs have a core of 4 young players with Wembanyama, Castle, Vassell and Sochan to build around:
- Wembanyama is on the path to become the best player in the league in a couple of years.
- Castle looks awesome for a rookie. He should become a high quality starting PG. BTW, his rookie season is statistically almost identical to Fox rookie season.
- Sochan has been a very pleasant surprise. This kind of low resource versatile player is very useful to teams.
- Vassell, who is coming back from a big injury (again), has been more of a mixed bag. Given what he did last season, how outside shooting is important in today's NBA and his descending contract, I think he still is a valuable place.

In addition to these 4 players, Champagnie is looking more and more as a quality rotation player. 3 and D are always needed.

Rest of the roster doesn't really matter.

Spurs are a point where it isn't crazy to say that they can fully rebuild without a major trade and/or FA signing. With a good 2025 draft, they might basically be done with their rebuild.

These players are very young so it will take some time. 26/27 is a good estimate to when Spurs will start to be a contender.

[Spurs Brazil]

15-15 is better than I expected.

Wemby has been great. I also like the improvement play of Sochan and Champagnie. And Castle looks good for a rookie

CP3 is playing very well but I expected more from Barnes.

Vassell has been disappointing. If he's playing at the same level of last season we would have some more wins but he's worst, especially his defense. I hope the more he plays the better he can get, maybe he needs more time because of the injury.

Spurs really need to trade Keldon Johnson. He's still playing bad defense but this season his shot is gone. Trade him or get him out of the rotation.

[BackHome]

Better then I thought but this team is still showing it needs a massive influx of talent- What can will dramatically impact our future success is if Vassell can not stay healthy or his current play continues. At some point soon Spurs are going to have to make some moves like Keldon or Tre as I just don’t see a future with them.

[chubbs]

lol wemby
lol soft

[spursgu]

lol wemby
lol soft

what? Your other sad attempt of a thread wasn’t getting hits so you decide to post your bull in this thread. Shut up already, dude. Spend your Christmas like a regular person would. Oh wait that’s not what you are.

[scott]

CP3 seems less interested in the "young team" excuses.

Great vet to have to make sure that these guys learn from these last two losses.

"I think we're just going to that point where all that young guy stuff gotta go out of the window. You know, we pros, just like everybody else. And there's grit and will that you gotta have in this league in order to figure out ways to win those games. You know, especially on the road when we are the only ones that's cheering for us or what not and that builds character.
We got 2 games left on this trip and we gotta make sure we approach them with proper fear."

[KingKev]

CP3 seems less interested in the "young team" excuses.

Great vet to have to make sure that these guys learn from these last two losses.

"I think we're just going to that point where all that young guy stuff gotta go out of the window. You know, we pros, just like everybody else. And there's grit and will that you gotta have in this league in order to figure out ways to win those games. You know, especially on the road when we are the only ones that's cheering for us or what not and that builds character.
We got 2 games left on this trip and we gotta make sure we approach them with proper fear."

He is spot on. Being young is no excuse for not securing some of those loose balls. That was just lack of effort and fight.

[DAF86]

We're fine. We have to bare in mind that nobody thought we would be .500 30 games into the season. We're way ahead of schedule.

-Wemby is already top 10 in the league, might even be top 5.

-I might be able to get behind the Fox move for next season, tbh.

-We need to add shooting, shooting, and then a little more shooting.

[Mr. Body]

He is spot on. Being young is no excuse for not securing some of those loose balls. That was just lack of effort and fight.

Nah, those just bounced the wrong way. Paul is right, but the Spurs almost beat both a fully loaded Sixers team at home that just beat the Cs on the road and a very good Knicks team on the road. They're almost there.

Honestly the Knicks loss isn't the bad bounces in the last possession it's Wemby continuing his questionable shots in the clutch. Look great when they go down, but they're not good shots.

[LeBowen]

Nah, those just bounced the wrong way. Paul is right, but the Spurs almost beat both a fully loaded Sixers team at home that just beat the Cs on the road and a very good Knicks team on the road. They're almost there.

Honestly the Knicks loss isn't the bad bounces in the last possession it's Wemby continuing his questionable shots in the clutch. Look great when they go down, but they're not good shots.

He'll keep shooting those until we get another capable player.

[jesterbobman]

We're slightly better than I thought we'd be, though a lot more of that is Wemby than growth of the rest of the group (Vassell has taken a step back, Keldon stagnant, no Growth from Malaki / Blake, good steps from Sochan and Champaagnie.) Castle has serious questions about the shot, but he's very good defensively already and he can clearly be a PG.

That's a good sign for a le team. Most le teams are built around an A1 Absolute #1 star. Wemby has always seemed likely to get to that point, but he's really close as a 20 year old, he has obvious room to grow (strength, allowing bullying of mismatches, allowing him to keep his balance for rebounding etc, plus more gradual growth in passing vision and selection, shot selection (big growth from the first 5 games of the season) and learning how to be effective more off ball, trusting others to dribble and that the ball will find him.

[itzsoweezee]

Nah, those just bounced the wrong way. Paul is right, but the Spurs almost beat both a fully loaded Sixers team at home that just beat the Cs on the road and a very good Knicks team on the road. They're almost there.

Honestly the Knicks loss isn't the bad bounces in the last possession it's Wemby continuing his questionable shots in the clutch. Look great when they go down, but they're not good shots.

lol, will the dumbness ever end? Wemby was the only reason this was not a 20 point blowout. Literally the only real scorer on the entire roster, and he’s the only impactful defender on the whole team. But yeah, let’s blame that guy

[Spurs Homer]

Good call OP. Most important line I believe-

Wemby - We all knew he'd be great, but I don't think many of us expected him to be playing like a legit top5 player in the league, top10 at worst. Not only that, but he always rises to the occasion in big moments. We need to get him help asap because he's ready to compete.

Yes we can't squander Wemby's talent. Wonder if there is anything going on in the front office.

Speak for yourself…
anyone with eyes could see in wembys first preseason games in his rookie year and especially that preseason game at golden state where he demolished the warriors…

only thing that ever stopped wemby was his acclimating to the nba minutes/schedule

but if you had ever watched ANY basketball you could see he was/is the unicorn and will soon be the GOAT
as long as health permits

which is why i called for the garbage to be taken out LAST year (branham, vassell, zollins, champagnie, wesley,) and was in favor of spurs getting aggressive and acquiring stars..

it didnt matter if it was lillard, or markannen or any other free agents..and also picking TWO draft prospects instead of trading away #8

everyone here was posting the
“wemby will not be ready until his 4th or 5th season so we need to keep tanking” takes…
and
”duncan wasnt ready until this or that season so we need to be patient”

but wemby is ready now…

[Russ]

The Spurs' two best players are twenty years old.

Their main job is to keep Wembanyama -- on that front, the empty seats in the lower bowl are way more concerning than anything else.

[Dejounte]

Sochan and Champagnie have risen as keepers.

Castle is a guy who could end up as Wemby’s sidekick.

Thank heavens the Spurs are moving on from Collins.

Branham and Wesley might not be here for long either. The Spurs ride the trajectory of their players. Going from increasing minutes to no minutes at all is a very bad sign, and getting minutes back next year is against the odds for both of them.

I’m not as down on Vassell yet as others are. I’m not even a huge fan of his. He looks like a guy out there who just got traded to his new team. Very poor chemistry with others right now. If he’s still like this in 10 games, then I’ll start questioning.

Barnes is playing alright. He’s not hurting the team. People are low on him because he’s not standing out. I don’t know what people expected. He’s a role player. He’ll have his games where he doesn’t make a shot.

Keldon is by far the weakest link of the rotation and I can’t wait until they Collins him.