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    Elon kicked it off by saying white Americans aren't as smart as Indians, red dot not feather. VP Vivek doubles down and says American culture can learn from his indian culture and put down the sports and pick up a book.






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    Lol it's the non super talented that put Musk in office in the first place

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    Lol dems desperate to find a line of attack on Elon

    muh H1B's

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    Lol dems desperate to find a line of attack on Elon

    muh H1B's
    Laugh through the pain. Them H1Bs are kicking conservative white men in the ass right now.

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    Lol dems desperate to find a line of attack on Elon

    muh H1B's
    No, they are for foreigners. That's your problem.

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    Musk President.
    Not Biden.

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    Elon is right that we need to import more talent, but we need to educated and develop it better domestically as well.

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    I've been on the record ing and moaning about curry guzzling dot headed IT Indians and H1b Visa's since at least 2014, 2015. They're taking our jobs, they're taking our money, they're taking our opportunities, they're taking our women, they're stinking up our offices and our toilets..... Will Hunting and others can confirm


    It was an Obama problem that Trump failed to fix from 2017-19 and it arguably got worse during the plandemic, but at some point in 2022-ish the tide shifted and companies realized, hey, if IT work can be done remotely, why not just keep them working remote from -ass India and pay them 10 cents to the dollar in rupees instead of bringing them physically onshore, sponsoring their visas here and paying them >$100k a year?


    I'm on the side of MAGA, Trill Clinton, but I've never been on the record as saying "blacks or Mexicans are stealing our jobs". The only jobs these lower-education demographics "take" are the lower-paying, service-level, hands-on type of jobs that the ordinary white American, especially those with some college or a college degree, would never work in a million years.


    Elon is right that we need to import more talent
    No, we don't.


    but we need to educated and develop it better domestically as well.
    For the fraction of the price of an H1b or similar visa sponsorship, they can just train already college-educated U.S. Citizens who are underemployed, may not have the right college major or whatever but they are U.S. Citizens born in the USA, instead of importing the turd world and turd world ass culture, and HIRE AMERICAN ONLY. America First, mother er. Americans First. Trump needs to do this in Q1 2025 at the latest.

    Impose domestic tariffs on tech consultancy companies like the Tata Consultancy Services and Infosys type companies from -ass India operating in the USA, and impose a 40% sur-tax on companies hiring from abroad, H1b or otherwise. Each individual imported employee shall cost the company in additional taxes, which will eventually force them to stop. Hire college-educated, underemployed U.S. Citizens instead, and ing train them to code, analyze, learn technologies like Java, Jira and DataBricks, be a scrum master, project manager, business analyst, whatever need be. Install tax breaks and benefits for U.S. companies operating in the U.S. who strictly and solely hire U.S. Citizens to work U.S. taxable jobs paying $25 an hour/$40k per year or more. That shall do it. Tough on China is not enough. We need to be #ToughOnIndia to be truly nationalist, populist, America First.
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    Elon is right that we need to import more talent, but we need to educated and develop it better domestically as well.
    ...that ship sailed many moons ago, 7, un-moored never to dock again.

    Cherry pick the best from the other countries and ban all others.

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    Desis talking about white folks like white folks talk about black folks -- "you're raising your kids wrong" -- did not go over well.

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    What a load of crap. LOL all these corporations hiring cheap H1B Indians instead of Americans now wondering why Americans aren't killing themselves chasing hard ass CS degrees like they did 25 years ago when a CS degree from a good school would get you a high paying job. I remember the demand was so high for a bunch of my CS courses at UCLA they wouldn't let anyone drop so you either fought through a class you were struggling in or you failed and got kicked out of the major because there would be someone else behind you dying to get in that major if you couldn't hack it. All these corporate mother ers have to do is hire graduates to good jobs and students will start killing themselves to get CS degrees again.
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    What a load of crap. LOL all these corporations hiring cheap H1B Indians instead of Americans now wondering why Americans aren't killing themselves chasing hard ass CS degrees like they did 25 years ago when a CS degree from a good school would get you a high paying job. I remember the demand was so high for a bunch of my CS courses at UCLA they wouldn't let anyone drop so you either fought through a class you were struggling in or you failed and got kicked out of the major because there would be someone else behind you dying to get in that major if you couldn't hack it. All these corporate mother ers have to do is hire graduates to good jobs and students will start killing themselves to get CS degrees again.
    Bingo.

    They wanted cheaper, more compliant labor, and they lobbied the USG to get it. They're lobbying Trump right now to make exceptions for them -- million dollar donations to the inaugural seems to be one good way to get the great man's attention.

    Their aims instead were to keep American scientific employers from having to pay the full US market price of high skilled labor. They hoped to keep the US research system staffed with employees classified as “trainees,” “students,” and “post-docs” for the benefit of employers. The result would be to render the US scientific workforce more docile and pliable to authority and senior researchers by attempting to ensure this labor market sector is always flooded largely by employer-friendly visa holders who lack full rights to respond to wage signals in the US labor market.
    How & Why Government, Universities, & Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists & High-Tech Workers | Ins ute for New Economic Thinking

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    the problem being solved was not a problem of talent but one of price: scientific employers had become alarmed that they would have to pay compe ive market wages to US Ph.D.s with other options. The study’s aim was not to locate talent but to weaken its ability to bargain with employers by using foreign labor to undermine the ability to negotiate for new Ph.D.s

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    Anyway this is an inevitable rift between the faction of the American Right that sees foreigners as a subhuman Other to be demonized for votes and the faction that sees them as cheap exploitable labor to make things that explode whether on purpose or not

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    radical free speech doesn't cover dissing Elon

    Tech billionaire Elon Musk faced accusations of censorship Friday from fellow conservatives after several prominent right-wing accounts who had criticized Musk’s views on immigration said that they subsequently lost access to premium features on Musk’s social media app, X.

    At least 14 conservative accounts said late Thursday or Friday that X had revoked their blue verification badge, cutting them off from a variety of premium features, including the ability to monetize their accounts through subscriptions and advertising revenue-sharing, according to a review conducted by NBC News. Some accounts said the number of those affected was far higher.

    The accounts were all still active Friday, but without access to monetization features; some of them said they worried about their ability to keep posting.
    Elon Musk accused of censoring Laura Loomer, MAGA Republicans on X

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    The US runs on a global economy. It stands to reason that the US should pick from a global talent pool if they want to remain compe ive. Everyone else is.

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    A majority of H-1B employers—including major U.S. tech firms—use the program to pay migrant workers well below market wages
    https://www.epi.org/publication/h-1b...g-wage-levels/

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    The US runs on a global economy. It stands to reason that the US should pick from a global talent pool if they want to remain compe ive. Everyone else is.
    sure, but that's not even the main reason they're doing it. the easiest way to be compe ive is to squeeze labor.

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    sure, but that's not even the main reason they're doing it. the easiest way to be compe ive is to squeeze labor.
    If we're talking about CEO level talent, that's not a lot of labor squeezing. They aren't working for discounts. I have 3 doctors. My PCP, a nephrologist and a gastro. All are Indians. All graduated US colleges and were even born in the US. I don't give it any consideration.

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    If we're talking about CEO level talent, that's not a lot of labor squeezing. They aren't working for discounts. I have 3 doctors. My PCP, a nephrologist and a gastro. All are Indians. All graduated US colleges and were even born in the US. I don't give it any consideration.
    At top management levels, sure.

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