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    The problem with castle is he still tries to power through guys which doesn’t always work in the NBA - Once he develops a little floater and mid range he will be so much better but still very happy with the pick and his progress

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    so much of ST thought devin would help the team step up

    me before the season started:
    castle can ball. keep cp3, barnes, castle, wemby. make a big trade.

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    Spurs talk always has to find a player they hate every year. I guess it’s Vassell this year.

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    Spurs talk always has to find a player they hate every year. I guess it’s Vassell this year.
    So true.

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    I think one of the major challenges with Devin on this team is, that no one on the team can really reliably and successfully dribble into the paint, and Devin, though he tries it a lot, isn't very good at it either, possibly really bad, and so this team offense needs to thrive as a team with lots of ball movement and so that's where someone like Julian, even though he doesn't penetrate well, he also doesn't hold on to the ball long at all and so the ball's always moving. It seems like at least to my eye there's better shots available when he's on the court.
    Yeah, I was thinking about this... without reliable penetrators you really need to rely on movement, passing and "the beautiful game". Unfortunately, Devin and Keldon are ball-stoppers who get tunnel vision as soon as the ball gets in their hands.

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    This dude is ing embarassing

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    4/16 tonight for a team-worst -2 +/- and continued terrible defense. This dude stinks right now tbh.

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    Man wtf happend to this dude.

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    Man wtf happend to this dude.
    The offense shifted toward the front court and he is forced to be the second POA defender instead of help.

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    He just sucks right now and i'm afraid he has already depressed his trade value. We can only root for him for even just market reasons

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    its so ing aggravating seeing both Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson on the court at the same time most ing nights, especially late in games.

    that needs to ing stop and soon.

    At some point its gotta be time to prioritize winning over other things.

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    Spurs talk always has to find a player they hate every year. I guess it’s Vassell this year.
    At least they found someone who sucks.

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    to bad you cant pull this turd from the lineup

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    He wasn't efficient but he seemed to play in the flow of the offense and didn't play to his weaknesses as bad as before. Honestly, I thought it was progress for him.

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    Today he played better. So it's Keldon. But it's a weak team.

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    dump his ass tbh

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    The offense shifted toward the front court and he is forced to be the second POA defender instead of help.
    He is scuffling since being reinserted into the starting lineup, but I also wonder how much of it is a misalignment in role on both sides (like you mentioned)?

    He's having to get used to having the ball in his hands a lot less, while the offense runs through CP3 & Wemby (rightfully so). Plus, without Castle in the starting lineup & CP3 needing to be hidden most nights that means he's drawing a tougher assignment than year's past (small sample size).

    Either the team will need to upgrade from him or pair him with another guard/forward that can defend (hiding him more often).

    I'm not against moving him, if he can't turn things around while the team is on the upswing.

    Also, I think it's becoming clear he's more of a Rip Hamilton - type (offense heavy) instead of a Kris Middleton (Jack of all trades) higher end 'role player.' (No shade meant to Rip cause he was a champion in college and the pros.)

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    He's having to get used to having the ball in his hands a lot less, while the offense runs through CP3 & Wemby (rightfully so).
    Last season he was criticized because he obviously wasn't comfortable as a creator, which was fair.
    Now he gets a competent playmaker and he's still uncomfortable? At some point you have to figure out if a player is worth adjusting to.

    Either the team will need to upgrade from him or pair him with another guard/forward that can defend (hiding him more often).
    One-dimensional players aren't worth hiding these days unless they're 25ppg+ scorers.

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    Last season he was criticized because he obviously wasn't comfortable as a creator, which was fair.
    Now he gets a competent playmaker and he's still uncomfortable? At some point you have to figure out if a player is worth adjusting to.



    One-dimensional players aren't worth hiding these days unless they're 25ppg+ scorers.
    CP3 generates less rim pressure than Tre. There is also less handoff and backdoor cuts without pivot Wemby and Zollins. This is just natural progression as Wemby develops into more of a modern 4 rather than a pivot big. He is 5 games in the SL give it time. Naturally he would be the one looking like because he is adjusting on both sides similar to Sochan last year.

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    CP3 generates less rim pressure than Tre.
    Doesn't matter if we're talking Devin. He's being put in good positions and can't take advantage of it.

    This is just natural progression as Wemby develops into more of a modern 4 rather than a pivot big.
    Your modern 4 is actually modern 5.
    Even Jokic started taking way more 3pts, post-ups are completely dead if it's not an easy to exploit mismatch.
    It's just too inefficent when it comes to setting it up, the time and energy it takes and efficency. Sad, but true. Obviously a lot of it is on the type of bigs we have today.

    He is 5 games in the SL give it time. Naturally he would be the one looking like because he is adjusting on both sides similar to Sochan last year.
    He'll obviously have the time until the end of the season, he's not going anywhere. But we're 5 years in, it's getting annoying.

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    He's having to get used to having the ball in his hands a lot less, while the offense runs through CP3 & Wemby (rightfully so). Plus, without Castle in the starting lineup & CP3 needing to be hidden most nights that means he's drawing a tougher assignment than year's past (small sample size).
    Sorry man CP3 is having a pretty good season defensively. Vassell isn't having to cover for anything, it's the team having to cover for him.

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    I wish timvp was still alive so he could pin this tread.

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    I wish timvp was still alive so he could pin this tread.
    timvp, Jimmy Carter and Rickey Henderson - up in heaven winning 3v3 tourneys. RIP dudes.

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    The specter of James Anderson 2.0 on a 30 million salary is haunting me..

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    The specter of James Anderson 2.0 on a 30 million salary is haunting me..
    Bro James Anderson was legit till he got hurt.

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