De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

[paperboy77]

the problem with losing devin is that this team is not exactly loaded with scorers so who becomes the 3rd option on this team? i would prefer a scenario where devin is that 3rd option, which is where i think he would do better at. i think it's all a moot point though because the kings are going to ask for way too many 1st rounders. if fox gets traded, it will probably be to the rockets.

Why to the Rockets? Is it because our FO have no guts to pull the trigger?

[spurraider21]

tbh this isnt outlandish at all. only giving away 1 unprotected pick in this scenario.

[Leetonidas]

I think Castle and Fox can coexist. Get it done Brian

[CGD]

Why to the Rockets? Is it because our FO have no guts to pull the trigger?

Under Ime, the rockets have shown a desire to accelerate their timeline. It’s worked for them so far. I def can see them being less precious about their youngster than the Spurs. They also have many more than us (basically we only have Sochan and Castle).

[itzsoweezee]

tbh this isnt outlandish at all. only giving away 1 unprotected pick in this scenario.

Three first round picks + a lottery pick seems pretty outlandish to me. And if I’m the spurs, I’m using San Antonio’s picks in a trade rather than Atlanta’s

[tonight...you]

Klutch is likely the source, the noise all wrapped in one.

Agreed

[itzsoweezee]

I don't disagree that the Spurs in general may not be looking for a high price player now, and I have never been too high on Makannen

But I don't think agree with calling Fox 'small' or especially 'tiny" and associate him with Young or Garland who both measured 6-0.5 at different events compared to 6-2.0 for Fox size wise. Bigger wignspan also, +3 on Young and + 1.5 on Garland. Size wise he's closer to Derrick White than Young and Garland are to him

High volume shooter? Yes. Tiny? No.

And Fox is not a no-defense guy. He’s not an all-nba defender, but he can definitely guard point guards.

[spurraider21]

Three first round picks + a lottery pick seems pretty outlandish to me. And if I’m the spurs, I’m using San Antonio’s picks in a trade rather than Atlanta’s

its not 3 firsts though

2031 is just undoing a swap. so its really 2 firsts, one of which is protected from chicago. in 2031 we'd still have our own pick + the wolves unprotected pick

[Leetonidas]

Three first round picks + a lottery pick seems pretty outlandish to me. And if I’m the spurs, I’m using San Antonio’s picks in a trade rather than Atlanta’s

Seems like pretty fair value for a player of Fox's caliber. If anything it's an underpay

[spurraider21]

Seems like pretty fair value for a player of Fox's caliber. If anything it's an underpay

yeah feelsl like fair or underpay to me as well. also nice to dump keldon while still retaining zollins' soon to be expiring deal

[itzsoweezee]

its not 3 firsts though

2031 is just undoing a swap. so its really 2 firsts, one of which is protected from chicago. in 2031 we'd still have our own pick + the wolves unprotected pick

Good point about 2031. Still, I’d much rather ship off Vassell than Castle.

[itzsoweezee]

Seems like pretty fair value for a player of Fox's caliber. If anything it's an underpay

I don’t think Sacramento is going to get anywhere close to this type of package. Fox/Klutch can basically pick their destination. There’s not going to be anything like an auction here wit Fox’s contract nearly up

[spurraider21]

Good point about 2031. Still, I’d much rather ship off Vassell than Castle.

im pretty split on them. vassell's poor play this year has really soured me on him. i'd been a big defender of his, at points hopeful he'd be good enough to be a #2 offensively, and thought his extension was a no brainer

but man... his defense is STILL abysmal, and we're a long ways from the 22-23 excuse of having to preserve his energy for offensive creation. he's just a bad defender, and his offense is very come-and-go. if he was consistently putting up a reasonably efficient 20+ without being a tunnel-visioned scorer, i'd look past the defense.

with that said, he's still a very good shooter, and while Fox has become a reasonable shooter, he's not exactly a spacer. we are already dealing with sochan's lack of shooting. wemby's ridiculous spacing from the 5 spot allows us to get away with some crap, but looking at a future lineup including an average shooting Fox, below average shooting Castle, and non-shooting Sochan just seems bad.

[The Truth #6]

Devin is somehow a good shooter who also takes bad shots. He and Keldon seem like products of the tanking team mentality that Pop created to get Wemby. Well, at least we have Wemby. Seems that players and even clutch are invested in getting players to San Antonio. That will, of course take a lot of draft picks to make happen eventually. But it also means we shouldn't be so desperate to continue to overpay our homegrown talent.

[heyheymymy]

I like the Fox idea for once when I disliked all the Trae Young type suggestions before but it's going to be difficult for me to let Vassell go in a deal to get Fox.

I think I ultimately can consider letting Vassell go but no way am I letting Castle go for Fox. No way.

[exstatic]

a) Yeah I agree that Castle would likely have to be part of the deal

b) Like Dejounte, Fox only has one all star appearance and he was also an injury replacement just like Dejounte was. Do we want to make our version of the Atlanta DeJounte trade?

Yes you can only speculate on Castles career going forward but we have Chris Paul to bridge that gap and give us time to evaluate.

The difference being that Fox also made an All NBA team that year, which is a higher bar to clear.

[The Truth #6]

Sacramento just fired their coach to make Fox happy, so I doubt they trade him right away. Granted, they make dumb choices. If they are trading Fox, why fire Brown also?

We probably won't get Fox. But we might get Brown in some capacity. Just saying.

[exstatic]

I think Castle and Fox can coexist. Get it done Brian

Did you not see Castle outbound in the trade?

[exstatic]

Sacramento just fired their coach to make Fox happy, so I doubt they trade him right away. Granted, they make dumb choices. If they are trading Fox, why fire Brown also?

We probably won't get Fox. But we might get Brown in some capacity. Just saying.

Sacramento’s owner both thought that it was worth trading an All Star big man for Buddy Hield, who he thought would be Curry II, and that an NBA team should run an offense like his daughters basketball team, where you play defense with 4 players, and leave one near mid court to leak out. They’re easily dumb enough to think that firing Brown would end things.

[Leetonidas]

Did you not see Castle outbound in the trade?

Well thats one proposed iteration obviously but I'm just saying if we can keep Castle and ship Vassell out instead I'm all for it. If it cost us Castle though I would be sad but I'd still do it tbh

[Leetonidas]

I don’t think Sacramento is going to get anywhere close to this type of package. Fox/Klutch can basically pick their destination. There’s not going to be anything like an auction here wit Fox’s contract nearly up

Disagree. Fox is a legit all star and borderline all NBA caliber player, he will fetch a hefty price. If role players like Rudy Gobert and Mikal Bridges are fetching 4+ picks I guarantee you Fox will net a similar return

Then again I could be wrong because the Kings front office is complete trash

[objective]

tbh this isnt outlandish at all. only giving away 1 unprotected pick in this scenario.

Too much with Castle to me. Not even a big Castle guy, I just don't like moving a #4 who has not been a disappointment at that high a pick for 1.5 years of Fox, Vassell?

Fine. Sochan? Fine.

Rockets might include Reed Sheppard, who I loved in the draft, but it's a fact that he hasn't done anything this year. Sure, he hasn't had the opportunities, but I wouldn't rank him above Castle in a prospect trade value list.

[itzsoweezee]

Disagree. Fox is a legit all star and borderline all NBA caliber player, he will fetch a hefty price. If role players like Rudy Gobert and Mikal Bridges are fetching 4+ picks I guarantee you Fox will net a similar return

Then again I could be wrong because the Kings front office is complete trash

I could be wrong, but neither Bridges nor Gobert were coming up on the end of their contract. Whoever’s trading for Fox will want him to confirm he’s going to extend with them. If Fox/Klutch want to go to San Antonio, then other teams aren’t going to offer a bunch of assets for a rental.

[Seventyniner]

When will Fox be eligible to sign an extension? His contract status and future demands will be a big part of how much a team is willing to give up for him. Selling the farm to get Fox and then losing him after next season would be a colossal waste of resources.

[The Truth #6]

Sacramento’s owner both thought that it was worth trading an All Star big man for Buddy Hield, who he thought would be Curry II, and that an NBA team should run an offense like his daughters basketball team, where you play defense with 4 players, and leave one near mid court to leak out. They’re easily dumb enough to think that firing Brown would end things.

They are probably multiple sides to this all acting stupidly, I get that. And this conflict of interests leads to this chaos. Owners: win games. Fox: I don't like the coach telling me to be a real superstar and try harder. FO: maybe this will buy us another two years of salary. Klutch: how do we get the biggest contract.

Sure, it's a mess.

But before trading for Fox, I thiyit would be good to know more about what went down with he and Brown.